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  • The Matildas and the media.

    The MSM has hyped the Australian Women's national football to ridiculous extremes, even raising popular expectation to the level of probable world champions. Of course their object is to make money by treating us to a lot of jingoistic nonsense laid on with a trowel. Of course reality bites when a team of unknowns does a big job on us (Tracey Holmes reported that so little was know about the Nigerian team as to beggar a performance prediction).

    I saw the effect of the ridiculous media hype on this site when, on the Game Day thread, MR chided The King for his spoilers on the Ashes and the WC result. MR explained that the disclosed Cricket result was the driver but I suspect that her dashed Matilda expectations was the real cause. The King, as is his clumsy wont, had spoiled the collective fantasy.

    I'm not bagging MR, she is no doubt a fine patriotic Australian who wants to see Aussie success and on that score she is pretty typical. Indeed, one felt a tsunami of disappointment surge through the ether at news of the drubbing. After all with Easts now gone to Gowings all we have to cling to is the Swimming. No doubt, however, the MSM will now turn to the "plucky and gallant in defeat" trope that has been stock in trade since Gallipoli.The reality will be straight losses from now on.

    My question is why do we keep on heeding the MSM? And why do we obsess about the dross it feeds us while not seeming to give a fig about the predicament of, say, Julian Assange? Surely, his is the real cause for some kind of patriotic media mission.
    Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 07-28-2023, 11:43 AM.

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    • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
      The Matildas and the media.

      The MSM has hyped the Australian Women's national football to ridiculous extremes, even raising popular expectation to the level of probable world champions. Of course their object is to make money by treating us a lot of jingoistic nonsense laid on with a trowel. Of course reality bites when a team of unknowns (Tracey Holmes reported that so little was know about the Nigerian team as to beggar
      a performance prediction). I saw the effect of the ridiculous media hype on this site when, on the Game Day thread, MR chided The King for his spoilers on the Ashes and the WC result. MR explained that the disclosed Cricket result was the driver but I suspect that her dashed Matilda expectations was the real cause. The King, as is his clumsy wont, had spoiled the collective fantasy.

      I'm not bagging MR, she is no doubt a fine patriotic Australian who wants to see Aussie success and on that score she is pretty typical. Indeed, one felt a tsunami of disappointment surge through the ether at news of the drubbing. After all with Easts now gone to Gowings all we have to cling to is the Swimming. No doubt, however, the MSM will now turn to the plucky and gallant in defeat trope that has been stock in trade since Gallipoli.

      My question is why do we keep on heeding the MSM? And why do we obsess about the dross it feeds us while not seeming to give a fig about the predicament of, say, Julian Assange? Surely, his is the real cause for some kind of patriotic media mission?
      You are so off the mark it’s not funny Paddo. Read the Ashes thread. The only thing I know about the Matildas is Sam Kerr is their best player and she’s out. I don’t watch the sport. I am a cricket tragic however, and have watched cricket since I was about 11 years old. Stop making things up to suit your agenda - see you should be writing for the MSM.

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      • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

        The Oz political system desperately needs a Pauline Hanson in it. She's not a politician, but she says the quiet bits out loud that most are thinking anyway, but are too scared to say in this PC world of today.

        When you look at the "cure is worse than the disease" policies both parties here have foisted upon us here....Net zero madness, the Covid over reactions and hideous lockdowns..

        Pauline is a fresh of breath air.
        wow, just wow.

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        • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post
          You are so off the mark it’s not funny Paddo. Read the Ashes thread. The only thing I know about the Matildas is Sam Kerr is their best player and she’s out. I don’t watch the sport. I am a cricket tragic however, and have watched cricket since I was about 11 years old. Stop making things up to suit your agenda - see you should be writing for the MSM.
          I’ll quote myself here lol. In fact Paddo take a look at the Soccer World Cup thread. I was reminded by Andy that it was the World Cup soccer thread as I spent all my time talking cricket in it. Do better research. I would expect far better from you. Very disappointing indeed. With those sorts of skills you’d fit right in as a journo for the MSM.

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          • [QUOTE=mightyrooster;n1016367]

            I'll quote myself here lol. In fact Paddo take a look at the Soccer World Cup thread. I was reminded by Andy that it was the World Cup soccer thread as I spent all my time talking cricket in it. Do better research. I would expect far better from you. Very disappointing indeed. With those sorts of skills you'd fit right in as a journo for the MSM.

            Because the King's spoiler came so soon after the result last night I assumed mass disappointment re the WC loss by our glorious Matildas especially after the Roosters' dismal showing. Clearly, I was wrong to use your good self as representative and I apologise for that.

            My main point however, and as ever, is that our media serves us so poorly, The ABC has a mandate to lift the tone but it, too, has seriously failed and even abandoned that role in its foolish attempts to be more appealing to the ordinary punters who clearly like advertising, mainly because the stuff that they watch requires no concentration of thought. A "news" item on RN this morning reported on "bugs" in the mail. No, not glitches, insects. The reporter was a kid (female) and obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed (possibly didn't know the word "insect") and here she is "informing " us, but I think that's the idea - hire people who reflect the ordinary Aussie. Heaven help us, we're well on the way to a 51st State identity. We're malleable, complacent mugs.
            Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 07-28-2023, 02:05 PM.

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            • [QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n1016422]
              Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

              I'll quote myself here lol. In fact Paddo take a look at the Soccer World Cup thread. I was reminded by Andy that it was the World Cup soccer thread as I spent all my time talking cricket in it. Do better research. I would expect far better from you. Very disappointing indeed. With those sorts of skills you'd fit right in as a journo for the MSM.

              Because the King's spoiler came so soon after the result last night I assumed mass disappointment re the WC loss by our glorious Matildas especially after the Roosters' dismal showing. Clearly, I was wrong to use your good self as representative and I apologise for that.

              My main point however, and as ever, is that our media serves us so poorly, The ABC has a mandate to lift the tone but it, too, has seriously failed and even abandoned that role in its foolish attempts to be more appealing to the ordinary punters who clearly like advertising, mainly because the stuff that they watch requires no concentration of thought. A "news" item on RN this morning reported on "bugs" in the mail. No, not glitches, insects. The reporter was a kid (female) and obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed (possibly didn't know the word "insect") and here she is "informing " us, but I think that's the idea - hire people who reflect the ordinary Aussie. Heaven help us, we're well on the way to a 51st State identity. We're malleable, complacent mugs.
              On a slight turn from this Watch the same media turn and gnash their teeth at the Matilda’s should they lose next match or not make it through to the round of 16
              When you trust your television
              what you get is what you got
              Cause when they own the information
              they can bend it all they want

              John Mayer

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              • [QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n1016422]
                Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                I'll quote myself here lol. In fact Paddo take a look at the Soccer World Cup thread. I was reminded by Andy that it was the World Cup soccer thread as I spent all my time talking cricket in it. Do better research. I would expect far better from you. Very disappointing indeed. With those sorts of skills you'd fit right in as a journo for the MSM.

                Because the King's spoiler came so soon after the result last night I assumed mass disappointment re the WC loss by our glorious Matildas especially after the Roosters' dismal showing. Clearly, I was wrong to use your good self as representative and I apologise for that.

                My main point however, and as ever, is that our media serves us so poorly, The ABC has a mandate to lift the tone but it, too, has seriously failed and even abandoned that role in its foolish attempts to be more appealing to the ordinary punters who clearly like advertising, mainly because the stuff that they watch requires no concentration of thought. A "news" item on RN this morning reported on "bugs" in the mail. No, not glitches, insects. The reporter was a kid (female) and obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed (possibly didn't know the word "insect") and here she is "informing " us, but I think that's the idea - hire people who reflect the ordinary Aussie. Heaven help us, we're well on the way to a 51st State identity. We're malleable, complacent mugs.
                No worries Paddo, but my comment still stands. Research better lol! It was just pure coincidence that the Matilda's game just ended as I saw KS's post. I was just catching up on the Match Day thread before I was about to watch my recorded opening session of the Ashes 5th Test. For me it's always been Roosters in winter and cricket in summer. It's been that way since I was 11 years old and that's a long time now! I do agree with your assessment of the bandwagon media though. It does my head in. But I suppose on this occasion it may be because the World Cup is happening here in Aus and NZ, this is probably why it's getting so much attention.

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                • [QUOTE=Andrew Walker;n1016427]
                  Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

                  On a slight turn from this Watch the same media turn and gnash their teeth at the Matilda’s should they lose next match or not make it through to the round of 16
                  Very true. The media was all over the Aussie cricket team when Langer was not renewed as coach. Then as soon as we started winning, all was forgiven. Then this current series we're up 2-0 and all is rosy then the Poms going on a scoring rampage for one day and Cummins is a captain without a clue again.

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                  • Let me just say how laughable it is to hear Pauline Hanson discussed as anything other than the joke that she is.

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                    • Originally posted by Dr. Voodoo Man View Post
                      Let me just say how laughable it is to hear Pauline Hanson discussed as anything other than the joke that she is.
                      Got to say I’m certainly no Pauline fan and the woman makes me cringe every time she opens her mouth. The only positive I can see I guess is that it proves democracy exists as people actually vote for her. Or should I say people can get away with actually voting for her.
                      Last edited by mightyrooster; 07-28-2023, 07:13 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                        Got to say I’m certainly no Pauline fan and the woman makes me cringe every time she opens her mouth. The only positive I can see I guess is that it proves democracy exists as people actually vote for her. Or should I say people can get away with actually voting for her.
                        Same way that many of us feel when we hear Albo, Chalmers, Bowen, Andrews, McGowen etc. MR
                        #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                        • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                          Same way that many of us feel when we hear Albo, Chalmers, Bowen, Andrews, McGowen etc. MR
                          Yep exactly. It’s democracy. I think the last election also proved that the electorate is getting sick of the two big parties. While the growth of independent and minor parties makes the job of getting legislation through parliament more difficult, it keeps the big parties on their toes. It’s not surprising that some voters look for alternatives when the two main ones are so out of touch with what goes on in the real world.

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                          • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                            Yep exactly. It’s democracy. I think the last election also proved that the electorate is getting sick of the two big parties. While the growth of independent and minor parties makes the job of getting legislation through parliament more difficult, it keeps the big parties on their toes. It’s not surprising that some voters look for alternatives when the two main ones are so out of touch with what goes on in the real world.
                            Yeah, at the risk of slightly contradicting myself, i'm not a real fan of the minor parties per se.

                            I can see why people vote for them though. A lot of it is the majors have both walked away from their core values. In times past as a Liberal or Labor voter, you knew what they stood for. Now they both lack true courage unfortunately.
                            #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                            • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                              Yeah, at the risk of slightly contradicting myself, i'm not a real fan of the minor parties per se.

                              I can see why people vote for them though. A lot of it is the majors have both walked away from their core values. In times past as a Liberal or Labor voter, you knew what they stood for. Now they both lack true courage unfortunately.
                              That’s pretty much what I was trying to say. No great personalities either. It’s all very dull, boring and predictable.

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                              • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                                Yep exactly. It’s democracy. I think the last election also proved that the electorate is getting sick of the two big parties. While the growth of independent and minor parties makes the job of getting legislation through parliament more difficult, it keeps the big parties on their toes. It’s not surprising that some voters look for alternatives when the two main ones are so out of touch with what goes on in the real world.
                                Maybe it proves the masses don’t really care and it’s time to consider the alternatives to the democratically elected system of government.

                                Instil our best and brightest into governance rather than the middle managers and give them time to enact change and a path forward instead of just being a quarry.

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