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  • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

    You would be interested in this Comrade Paddo

    The latest offer from the NSW Government to the NSW Teachers Federation

    Proposed changes to the Teachers Award
    What you need to know
    • The government has put forward an offer to vary the existing Teachers Award until October 2024 and negotiate a new consent award for the following 3 years.
    • The agreement will see the introduction of a new 7-step pay scale with graduating teachers starting on $85,000 and experienced teachers earning up to $122,100.
    • School counsellors will also receive significant salary increases.
    • We will continue to work with the NSW Teachers Federation on critical actions to address teacher workload and other matters.
    Compare these wages to Hong Kong. Chump change.

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    • Don't quite follow Kingsley, is it something to do with migrating?

      Oz has a poor ranking on the OECD educational achievement scale. Their reports always mention that we are, however, top re classroom indiscipline. Teaching will fail to attract talented young people until that persistent issue is addressed.

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      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        What about the Libs? How could any working class voter contemplate a party that opposes employee rights? The employers of Uber drivers and food delivery riders have turned back the clock on Union won awards to the point where the delivery guys risk life and limb for a pittance.

        Of course the general public, the sentimental Aussie fair go mob don't care about their fellow workers as long as there is to be money saved and they can't be blamed given that Corporations rip them off routinely.

        That's the nature of Capitalism pit one side against the other and profit from the surplus value of their labour.
        Unions hey!!!

        But where were these Unions when 10's and 100's of thousands were fired for not taking the experimental jabs? Maybe too busy counting all these union fees for the poor suckers who believe unions actually do anything. Fancy paying fees of like $500 per yr for basically.........NOTHING......other than getting a few union leaders rich. Massive corporate ponzi like scheme..

        Fark Unions!!!

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        • [QUOTE=Rocky Rhodes;
          Fark Unions!!!

          Shows you're the goose I always presumed you were.

          Another fool with the arse out but still having something in common with the Libs (and Fascism) - they hate unions too.

          C'mon more of your intellect please Rocko, can't wait. Year 10 was it or earlier? The anti vax says it all, another flip frightened of needles.

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          • the unions in australia haven't always got things right but without them we'd be worse off. they are the epitome of the aussie fair go

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            • [QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n1026096][QUOTE=Rocky Rhodes;
              Fark Unions!!!

              Shows you're the goose I always presumed you were.

              Another fool with the arse out but still having something in common with the Libs (and Fascism) - they hate unions too.

              C'mon more of your intellect please Rocko, can't wait. Year 10 was it or earlier? The anti vax says it all, another flip frightened of needles.

              [/QUOTE]

              lol...the biggest sheeple on this forum calling me names....all i hear is baa baa baa

              A massive disappointment u turned out to be, completely unable to think outside the box or reason whatsoever.

              Time to wake the fark up and realize u are in a cult...the cult of stupid gullible leftard sheeple.

              U can't answer basic questions....say stupid things, contradict yourself a thousand times...lol

              Go and cut & paste from commie menadue site u uneducated git.

              U got 0% common sense, 100% sheeple. Brainwashed totally by left wing MSM and Murdoch. lol

              U probably ready for the 6th jab...because u believe everything on the fear box i.e. mainstream media, yo SHEEPLES
              Last edited by Rocky Rhodes; 09-07-2023, 12:02 AM.

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              • Originally posted by zac View Post
                the unions in australia haven't always got things right but without them we'd be worse off. they are the epitome of the aussie fair go
                100,000 of Aussies didn't get a fair go by been sacked for not taking the experimental jab.

                Unions are useless nowadays.

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                • Pretty hard to blame Unions for folk being dismissed during COVID 19.

                  Mandatory Vaccinations was a requirement in certain industries and professions under Public Health Orders issued by State, Territorial Governments and the Federal Government.

                  In my Department for an example (NSW Department of Education) it was a condition of employment for All department staff working at or visiting schools for specific purposes (SSPs) to be double vaccinated with an approved COVID-19 vaccine or hold a valid medical contraindication in line with Public Health Orders issued by the NSW Government at the time.

                  The Department Secretary them made it mandatory for all staff to be double vaccinated or hold a valid medical contraindication by a certain date - failure to provide evidence of either would result in the employee being stood down and required to take all available leave until such time they met this condition of employment requirement - failure to do so could result in the employees termination.

                  It was also a requirement for others visiting schools and workplaces to be doubled vaccinated or hold a valid medical contraindication which they would have to display before entry was allowed/

                  A large number of Employers also introduced their own compulsory Workplace Mandatory Vaccination requirements as a condition of employment - Under WHS Legislation it is a mandatory requirement for Employers to provide a safe working environment not only for employees but others who may visit workplaces for particular reasons.

                  It was Impossible to win an unfair dismissal claim whether via Fair Work Australia or any of the State Based Industrial Relations Commissions ( NSW IRC) when terminated for failure to comply with Public Health Orders.

                  It' was virtually impossible as well when it's an unfair dismissal claim against a mandatory employer's workplace mandatory vaccination policy.

                  Deemed a lawful and reasonable direction from the employer to employees - same as if you were asked to perform some duty and refused to perform it - If it is not illegal or unlawful, an employee has no leg to stand on in refusing such directions from the employer.

                  Fair Work Australia and the NSW IRC were pretty similar in their decisions in unfair dismissal cases during COVID 19.

                  Unfair dismissal applications 

                  In deciding whether an employee was unfairly dismissed because they did, or did not, receive a vaccination, a Member of the Commission may need to consider vaccination-related issues such as whether: 
                  1. the employer had a valid reason for dismissing an unvaccinated employee because being vaccinated was an inherent requirement of the employee’s job; 
                  2. alternative duties were available to the employee which did not require the employee to be vaccinated; and 
                  3. an employer had met any consultation obligations in relation to the introduction of a vaccination-related policy 
                  https://www.fwc.gov.au/benchbook/vac...elated-matters
                  Last edited by King Salvo; 09-08-2023, 01:44 AM. Reason: added lawful and reasonable directions

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                  • [QUOTE=Rocky Rhodes;n1026105]
                    Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

                    lol...the biggest sheeple on this forum calling me names....all i hear is baa baa baa

                    A massive disappointment u turned out to be, completely unable to think outside the box or reason whatsoever.

                    Time to wake the fark up and realize u are in a cult...the cult of stupid gullible leftard sheeple.

                    U can't answer basic questions....say stupid things, contradict yourself a thousand times...lol

                    Go and cut & paste from commie menadue site u uneducated git.

                    U got 0% common sense, 100% sheeple. Brainwashed totally by left wing MSM and Murdoch. lol

                    U probably ready for the 6th jab...because u believe everything on the fear box i.e. mainstream media, yo SHEEPLES
                    I don’t know why you even bother with this subject. These same people will still tell you these so called vaccines worked and yes most likely are booking in their next booster. Then when they get come down sick again not long after, they pat themselves on the back, telling themselves and their friends how lucky they were as it could have been so much worse.

                    Imbecility of the highest order yet hear they are continually telling others how stupid they are.
                    When you trust your television
                    what you get is what you got
                    Cause when they own the information
                    they can bend it all they want

                    John Mayer

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                    • A word to the wise Rocko - say as little as possible. As things are you are an adult with little to substantiate that description. Your North & South is the problem linked as it is to a childish brain that hasn't got far past fight or flight. ATM you're in fight mode which is embarrassing to witness. Please tell us a bit about yourself so that we can try to put your working class conservatism into some kind of shaky perspective.

                      Tradie are we with commercial radio on in the background all day? Or are these your own "ideas" cobbled together after deep and meaningfuls with other meatheads down at the pub? You lot need to stick by your strongly held principles and NEVER EVER avail yourselves of the benefits of modern medicine. Fat chance of that Fool.

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                      • [QUOTE=zac; ]the unions in australia haven't always got things right but without them we'd be worse off. they are the epitome of the aussie fair go.

                        Very true Zac but not the half of it. EVERY worker centered benefit or reform that ordinary people enjoy in their workplaces is courtesy of the Union movement. Of course non unionists enjoy the same universal worker coverage and save themselves the $10 a week membership. They are also conveniently ignorant of the fact that it is Unions which fight the wage cases in the Arbitration Commission of the past and the Fair Work Commission these days. Any improvement comes from their efforts but again, everyone gets the increase. Meatheads like Rocco think that wage increases and improved work conditions come out of nowhere, or worse from the beneficence of employers who, in reality, had fought reforms all the way, hence the "Whadda Unions do for anyone?" - the strident protest which marks the pissant obsession with saving $10 a week. The goose thinks that the boss gave us the things we enjoy in his workplace.
                        Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 09-07-2023, 02:47 PM.

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                        • Does anyone feel some sympathy for the foster parents of William Tyrell? The media, no doubt fed by the NSW Police, are crucifying the foster parents in much the same way as the Chamberlains were railroaded. Do we never learn with regard to a profit motive media that pedals lies (WMDs), supports just one side of politics and is a mouthpiece for our right wing security "ning nongs".

                          The fosterers of William Tyrell are being unreasonably persecuted on the basis of information from a police investigation which has already been trenchantly criticised by the courts. The idea seems to be "we know that you're guilty but we can't get anywhere near proving it so we'll fcuk you up some other way". The same MO used against the poor bugger who was just awarded damages after his railroading by police/media.

                          Anyone, anyone, who fosters children has my deepest respect. I couldn't do it. Many of the children have troubled back stories and are difficult to say the least. Human patience has its limits and these recorded "assault incidents" have occurred at a time of what must be almost unbearable stress and pressure brought about by the police investigation bordering on harassment where police suspicions, free of actual evidence, are clear to everybody. It's a wonder that those people have any sanity left at all.
                          Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 09-08-2023, 02:12 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                            Does anyone feel some sympathy for the foster parents of William Tyrell? The media, no doubt fed by the NSW Police, are crucifying the foster parents in much the same way as the Chamberlains were railroaded. Do we never learn with regard to a profit motive media that pedals lies (WMDs), supports just one side of politics and is a mouthpiece for our right wing security "ning nongs".

                            The fosterers of William Tyrell are being unreasonably persecuted on the basis of information from a police investigation which has already been trenchantly criticised by the courts. The idea seems to be "we know that you're guilty but we can't get anywhere near proving it so we'll fcuk you up some other way". The same MO used against the poor bugger who was just awarded damages after his railroading by police/media.

                            Anyone, anyone, who fosters children has my deepest respect. I couldn't do it. Many of the children have troubled back stories and are difficult to say the least. Human patience has its limits and these recorded "assault incidents" have occurred at a time of what must be almost unbearable stress and pressure brought about by the police investigation where police evidence free suspicions are clear to all. It's a wonder that those people have any sanity left at all.
                            Another example is the Kathleen Folbigg case. The deathcap mushrooms case is also currently heading in that direction.

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                            • It's disgraceful. We have a MSM deserving of no respect. Informing the readership objectively about anything really is trumped by sensationalism, ulterior motives of proprietors and profits. They can't be trusted on ANY issue whatsoever and that includes the current ABC.

                              From media reports it seems that the magistrate is also "on board" in this latest persecution which is not unusual in a police court but the idea that he might not take context into account is crazy given the bucketing the "investigators" got recently from one of his peers. The media, too, seems unabashed after its role in past lynchings. And you're right MR - Folbigg and the mushrooms are in the very same category.

                              It's the same story on "security". Time and again the media has got it wrong on China - seriously wrong at times. Tiananmen Square for example and remember the Census data outrage a while back? "Chinese communist hackers" were immediately nominated as they had been in every prior outrage - WRONG in every case!!! But no retraction. We're gonna deserve what's coming to us.
                              Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 09-08-2023, 02:09 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                                Another example is the Kathleen Folbigg case. The deathcap mushrooms case is also currently heading in that direction.
                                That is an unusual case though the death cap mushrooms one.

                                Of the 4 guests that were present 3 passed away and one is still in a critical condition awaiting a liver transplant.

                                She has presented with no symptoms despite saying she also consumed the meal.

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