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  • Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post

    The ones I call friends do, but according to my father (and most of my old clients from yesteryear), they only bundied on until they could retire on their lifetime indexed pensions. It's a different story these days because those old pension funds are no longer available to the current generation of public servants who are coming through.
    That old pension scheme ended in 1990, and the one which replaced it in 2006. The remaining members from the original scheme which ended in 1990 will take their pension in the next 1-2 years. Yes it is a ridiculously good scheme. But the public service is a different beast these days but still the myth lives on in Sydney and the rest of Australia that all Canberra public servants are lazy and get nothing but handouts. It’s a bit like the myth that Easts buy premierships and Souffs are the poor downtrodden and so called Pride of the league. But if it’s regurgitated often enough in the media and by politicians people become indoctrinated and believe it to be so. Canberra people are real, good people. We’re not all bureaucrats and politicians. We have kids and families and massive bills and deal with cost of living pressures just like the rest of Australia. If only we could get petrol as cheap as Sydney siders. Anyway end of rant.

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    • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
      On nights like last night I’d like to see an intellectual like PC on the tv giving his political commentary.
      Seems he wouldn't dare get in the mix with us plebs. He sounds like that sour bitch, Laura Tingle, on the ABC.
      1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
      1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        The way that you voted is a good indicator of your socio economic status
        Progressive parties can clearly see that, but will no doubt maintain their abandonment of the working class, even if it is detrimental to other social justice issues.

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        • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

          That old pension scheme ended in 1990, and the one which replaced it in 2006. The remaining members from the original scheme which ended in 1990 will take their pension in the next 1-2 years. Yes it is a ridiculously good scheme. But the public service is a different beast these days but still the myth lives on in Sydney and the rest of Australia that all Canberra public servants are lazy and get nothing but handouts. It’s a bit like the myth that Easts buy premierships and Souffs are the poor downtrodden and so called Pride of the league. But if it’s regurgitated often enough in the media and by politicians people become indoctrinated and believe it to be so. Canberra people are real, good people. We’re not all bureaucrats and politicians. We have kids and families and massive bills and deal with cost of living pressures just like the rest of Australia. If only we could get petrol as cheap as Sydney siders. Anyway end of rant.
          Fair comments, but if I recall correctly, the old pension scheme (SSS) ended in the mid 80s didn't it? Or do you mean SASS which closed to new members in the early 90s?

          1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
          1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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          • The sale of white sheets will go up astronomically, and the bigots may have won this time, but this is not the end; it's only the beginning.


            The KKK Took My Baby Away - The Ramones

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            • Well done Australia...a pretty comprehensive rejection of Albanese's divisive and deliberately lacking in detail proposal. A no thank you to being lectured to by big corporates, celebrities and sportspeople on how to vote in a referendum. A victory for again the quiet Aussies, including 41% of our indigenous population who all voted no. I was proud to be part of the lower profile, undermanned campaign where volunteers were clearly outnumbered and out-resourced by the corporate dollar and the union movement.

              This particular warrior got a personal taste of the division and misunderstandings created in the community since this referendum was announced. I was the lone volunteer for 'No' working all day at this booth in south western Sydney. The Yes campaigners at this booth were all teachers backed by their Union. One man became very aggressive when I offered him a No flyer. Started getting in my face screaming vile abuse and demanding to know why I'm handing out stuff like this. I tried to explain but he wanted some action. He screams he is Aboriginal and then swings a roundhouse right and smacks me on the left side of my head. The Oakleys go flying. Some Yes volunteers (female) try to intervene and calm him down. An elderly Asian lady comes to me and begs me not to retaliate. Now this guy is much bigger and younger than me (im almost 60) so my first thoughts are de-escalation. I had no supports if we did engage. I always try to avoid fights unless protecting someone vulnerable, it can only end in hospital, gaol or something more permanent. The guy then shouts at me "Are you Croatian?"....er no I'm Aussie. So he comes back at me and grabs me in a hug and kind of apologises. I then mention a large number of Aboriginals are supporting the Voice, and personally I have Aboriginal people in my family. He steps back and gets back into the verbal abuse..."Your mothers a slut...what if I fcuked her, how would you feel". A real charmer this one. He goes in to vote still hurling abuse.

              Jacks shaken, but still standing. Credit to most of the Yes volunteers who supported me. One said I handled the situation perfectly. One of them however was having a go a me even while I'm trying to regain my composure, suggesting I deserved all I got for supporting No. Wow. No, I didn't call the cops

              I just hope we can get back on track to pursue the changes that are really needed now for disadvantaged Australians. Without division.

              Thanks Australia for standing up for your values.

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              • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                The sale of white sheets will go up astronomically, and the bigots may have won this time, but this is not the end; it's only the beginning.


                The KKK Took My Baby Away - The Ramones

                Speaking of tedious bores.
                1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                  Well done Australia...a pretty comprehensive rejection of Albanese's divisive and deliberately lacking in detail proposal. A no thank you to being lectured to by big corporates, celebrities and sportspeople on how to vote in a referendum. A victory for again the quiet Aussies, including 41% of our indigenous population who all voted no. I was proud to be part of the lower profile, undermanned campaign where volunteers were clearly outnumbered and out-resourced by the corporate dollar and the union movement.

                  This particular warrior got a personal taste of the division and misunderstandings created in the community since this referendum was announced. I was the lone volunteer for 'No' working all day at this booth in south western Sydney. The Yes campaigners at this booth were all teachers backed by their Union. One man became very aggressive when I offered him a No flyer. Started getting in my face screaming vile abuse and demanding to know why I'm handing out stuff like this. I tried to explain but he wanted some action. He screams he is Aboriginal and then swings a roundhouse right and smacks me on the left side of my head. The Oakleys go flying. Some Yes volunteers (female) try to intervene and calm him down. An elderly Asian lady comes to me and begs me not to retaliate. Now this guy is much bigger and younger than me (im almost 60) so my first thoughts are de-escalation. I had no supports if we did engage. I always try to avoid fights unless protecting someone vulnerable, it can only end in hospital, gaol or something more permanent. The guy then shouts at me "Are you Croatian?"....er no I'm Aussie. So he comes back at me and grabs me in a hug and kind of apologises. I then mention a large number of Aboriginals are supporting the Voice, and personally I have Aboriginal people in my family. He steps back and gets back into the verbal abuse..."Your mothers a slut...what if I fcuked her, how would you feel". A real charmer this one. He goes in to vote still hurling abuse.

                  Jacks shaken, but still standing. Credit to most of the Yes volunteers who supported me. One said I handled the situation perfectly. One of them however was having a go a me even while I'm trying to regain my composure, suggesting I deserved all I got for supporting No. Wow. No, I didn't call the cops

                  I just hope we can get back on track to pursue the changes that are really needed now for disadvantaged Australians. Without division.

                  Thanks Australia for standing up for your values.
                  Should have reported it mate.
                  1985: 1 try vs Parramatta, 1 try vs Manly, 1 try vs Wests, 2 tries vs Souffs
                  1986: 2 tries vs Illawarra, 1 try vs Balmain, 2 tries vs Norths.

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                  • Here's yet another News Ltd cliche boy - "abandonment of the working class"? Oh yeah, I see what you mean Mr. Thoughtful - Medicare, the NDIS, consumer protection laws, laws to protect workers in the gig economy both in terms of conditions and rampant wage theft.

                    As you imply, the Working Class needs to better appreciate what the Right has blessed us with in recent years - a flat tax GST where arse out of his pants pays at the same rate as a captain of industry, foreign mining Corporations excused from a super profits tax, policies with minimising tax concessions re real estate investment that have now excluded the battlers from home ownership, disastrous wars that are fought by working class soldiers. Taxpayer funded consultants who pass on tax avoidance schemes to multinationals.

                    Dicey, you are a walking talking example of "average person" docility and thoughtlessness. A fine example of believe the first opinion that you hear.

                    * Jax: As I've written previously, it must be agonising to live up there with all those brown people. You need to relocate to somewhere like Harrington Park or Glen Alpine where the white bread, Year 10 leaving aspirationals are more sympathetic. But what a tale of derring do, almost ANZAC if one considers the predicament. Outnumbered 500-1 in your Oakleys, shorts and long socks staring down the evil face of the Yes vote. Fight of flight? The latter not an option. But then you chose the victim path, the unheroic old bloke frightened and shaken by some abo loving brute, if not himself an Abo - perfect.

                    Let's go with an alternative fantasy, one that puts you in a light more suited to the times.

                    " I saw that red flash of adrenaline that sweeps away all reason and thought of safety. The punches were coming in that flailing way that marks a mug and so I hunched up, set my stance and rushed in low bringing my head up sharply. I pulled the brute toward me driving my skull into his leering dark brown frills and lace and as he reeled back I picked up a cricket bat, smashed it across his right shin and then got to work on his arms and shoulders with it. Even the Yes mob cheered, some taking my "how to vote No". Once again freedom reigned in Merrylands but the Oakleys were done for - Chinese knock offs, what can you expect?
                    Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 10-15-2023, 01:28 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post

                      Should have reported it mate.
                      Yeah probably mate. I forgot to mention things could have got much worse and out of hand if he had arrived about 30 minutes earlier. I had two bikie mates (staunch No voters) yarning with me then and if they had seen what happened, things would have ended badly I fear.

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                      • It goes to show that Australia is still unable to deal with its colonial past, more so in rural and country areas. “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” - Winston Churchill

                        It was an overwhelming Yes, vote in the Roosters Heartland, though (63%). Yes, vote in Wentworth, for instance.

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                        • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                          Well done Australia...a pretty comprehensive rejection of Albanese's divisive and deliberately lacking in detail proposal. A no thank you to being lectured to by big corporates, celebrities and sportspeople on how to vote in a referendum. A victory for again the quiet Aussies, including 41% of our indigenous population who all voted no. I was proud to be part of the lower profile, undermanned campaign where volunteers were clearly outnumbered and out-resourced by the corporate dollar and the union movement.

                          This particular warrior got a personal taste of the division and misunderstandings created in the community since this referendum was announced. I was the lone volunteer for 'No' working all day at this booth in south western Sydney. The Yes campaigners at this booth were all teachers backed by their Union. One man became very aggressive when I offered him a No flyer. Started getting in my face screaming vile abuse and demanding to know why I'm handing out stuff like this. I tried to explain but he wanted some action. He screams he is Aboriginal and then swings a roundhouse right and smacks me on the left side of my head. The Oakleys go flying. Some Yes volunteers (female) try to intervene and calm him down. An elderly Asian lady comes to me and begs me not to retaliate. Now this guy is much bigger and younger than me (im almost 60) so my first thoughts are de-escalation. I had no supports if we did engage. I always try to avoid fights unless protecting someone vulnerable, it can only end in hospital, gaol or something more permanent. The guy then shouts at me "Are you Croatian?"....er no I'm Aussie. So he comes back at me and grabs me in a hug and kind of apologises. I then mention a large number of Aboriginals are supporting the Voice, and personally I have Aboriginal people in my family. He steps back and gets back into the verbal abuse..."Your mothers a slut...what if I fcuked her, how would you feel". A real charmer this one. He goes in to vote still hurling abuse.

                          Jacks shaken, but still standing. Credit to most of the Yes volunteers who supported me. One said I handled the situation perfectly. One of them however was having a go a me even while I'm trying to regain my composure, suggesting I deserved all I got for supporting No. Wow. No, I didn't call the cops

                          I just hope we can get back on track to pursue the changes that are really needed now for disadvantaged Australians. Without division.

                          Thanks Australia for standing up for your values.
                          You’ve read too many of Izzy’s stories on here
                          When you trust your television
                          what you get is what you got
                          Cause when they own the information
                          they can bend it all they want

                          John Mayer

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                          • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                            Well done Australia...a pretty comprehensive rejection of Albanese's divisive and deliberately lacking in detail proposal. A no thank you to being lectured to by big corporates, celebrities and sportspeople on how to vote in a referendum. A victory for again the quiet Aussies, including 41% of our indigenous population who all voted no. I was proud to be part of the lower profile, undermanned campaign where volunteers were clearly outnumbered and out-resourced by the corporate dollar and the union movement.

                            This particular warrior got a personal taste of the division and misunderstandings created in the community since this referendum was announced. I was the lone volunteer for 'No' working all day at this booth in south western Sydney. The Yes campaigners at this booth were all teachers backed by their Union. One man became very aggressive when I offered him a No flyer. Started getting in my face screaming vile abuse and demanding to know why I'm handing out stuff like this. I tried to explain but he wanted some action. He screams he is Aboriginal and then swings a roundhouse right and smacks me on the left side of my head. The Oakleys go flying. Some Yes volunteers (female) try to intervene and calm him down. An elderly Asian lady comes to me and begs me not to retaliate. Now this guy is much bigger and younger than me (im almost 60) so my first thoughts are de-escalation. I had no supports if we did engage. I always try to avoid fights unless protecting someone vulnerable, it can only end in hospital, gaol or something more permanent. The guy then shouts at me "Are you Croatian?"....er no I'm Aussie. So he comes back at me and grabs me in a hug and kind of apologises. I then mention a large number of Aboriginals are supporting the Voice, and personally I have Aboriginal people in my family. He steps back and gets back into the verbal abuse..."Your mothers a slut...what if I fcuked her, how would you feel". A real charmer this one. He goes in to vote still hurling abuse.

                            Jacks shaken, but still standing. Credit to most of the Yes volunteers who supported me. One said I handled the situation perfectly. One of them however was having a go a me even while I'm trying to regain my composure, suggesting I deserved all I got for supporting No. Wow. No, I didn't call the cops

                            I just hope we can get back on track to pursue the changes that are really needed now for disadvantaged Australians. Without division.

                            Thanks Australia for standing up for your values.
                            Wow not good Jack. Hope you’re ok. There’s no excuse for violence.

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                            • Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post

                              Speaking of tedious bores.
                              You can join your other right-wing cretins and wear your white sheet with pride now.


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                              • Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post

                                Fair comments, but if I recall correctly, the old pension scheme (SSS) ended in the mid 80s didn't it? Or do you mean SASS which closed to new members in the early 90s?
                                I’m talking about the CSS. It ended in 1990, just as I joined the APS. So I missed out. The PSS followed only to be closed in 2006. The current scheme is the PSSap, the equivalent of any good super scheme in the private sector.

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