The Uluṟu Statement Of The Heart

[player 1]

Unlike yourself who chooses not to thoroughly investigate or arm yourself with the full spectrum of knowledge that is available. I have done so and having done just that I will be voting NO. This my dear commie mate is why the govt did not want these 26 pages to see the light of day

Albo saying he hasn't read them is the biggest, most preposterous lie of all. He and all his underlings (including all of the ABC and the insufferable National Press Club) refuse to answer any questions posed as to the scope of the Voice and its intentions based on the full Ayers Rock Statement.

[ism22]

Albo saying he hasn't read them is the biggest, most preposterous lie of all. He and all his underlings (including all of the ABC and the insufferable National Press Club) refuse to answer any questions posed as to the scope of the Voice and its intentions based on the full Ayers Rock Statement.

He's answered it a million times, citing the statement as published by the Referendum Council.

It's so frigging weird that Dutton's PR crew have come up with a tactic of 'debate the length rather than the question of the referendum'.

Zzzz...

[Rocky Rhodes]

Even boxer Anthony Mundine is dissing the Corporate Voice....Most Aborigines are against it except the one's taking the cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBAdtYR0ats

No to Apartheid,
No to a racist divisive voice.

[player 1]

He's answered it a million times, citing the statement as published by the Referendum Council.

It's so frigging weird that Dutton's PR crew have come up with a tactic of 'debate the length rather than the question of the referendum'.

Zzzz...

Bullshit - he's been asked a million times whether the voice will pursue all the grievances in the extended version and always deflects and avoids answering about reparations, treaty with extra handouts as a percentage of GDP, and charging landowners "rent". He could have put it to bed with "that's never going to happen", but refuses to deny that's its real purpose.

Enjoy your south coast beach house with your lock to keep the pommie doctor out - soon it will be you locked out bud. Hope the permit isn't too expensive to visit the beach you're not entitled to swim in anymore cause your not a didgy.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Feel free to actually read what's behind the"guiding principles", as attached above by Andy. This is the agenda of the yes camp. These pages are obviously attached to it, whether or not you obsess over whether the "official statement" is only 1 page. Quite a few of the indigenous authors of it have gone on the record multiple times saying these additional pages are part of the statement, only to recently deny it or say it was "a poor choice of words". There is nothing in there about improving education, health or employment prospects of indigenous Australians. It is an attempted cash and land grab, and like almost all of the annual 38 billion dollars supposedly already spent trying to improve things for the indigenous, the vast majority of the extra cash will go to the Aboriginal Industry - public servants and contractors who are the ones to profit from all this, and in whose interest it is for conditions for Aborigines in remote communities to never improve.

As for Paddo, I think if Albo told you to eat a turd you'd swallow it whole and say yum.

Also Paddo, you confuse people who actually own anything that they've worked for with "the rich".

Haha...Well played Player1.

Aborigines will be worse off...all of us will except the Corporate elites...that's why they are donating millions...it ain't rocket science.

[Rocky Rhodes]

And this is why Western Australians will be voting NO...WA heritage laws...which were repelled...unlike this draconian voice which will enslave us for the rest of time.

Must watch 1m 44sec vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylVDsx1aGlU

Wake yo dumb asses up leftard sheeples..

[zac]

Unlike yourself who chooses not to thoroughly investigate or arm yourself with the full spectrum of knowledge that is available. I have done so and having done just that I will be voting NO. This my dear commie mate is why the govt did not want these 26 pages to see the light of day

you're a neitzschean superman and i couldn't hope to match your prowess.

those 26 pages meam **** all. the voice is a place for aborigines to get together and put forward proposals to the parliament. if they put forward impractical proposals they will get nowhere.

[zac]

by the way aw my last praise of you was sarcastic. you're such a dumb arse that you can't get the one page's name right - it's the uluru statement from the heart

[Random Rooster]

I. dont know what all the fuss is about.....we had our say in 1962. The guy at 2.15 mark would vote (maybe) YES but the dude at 5.30 would definitely vote NO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zb8yLammA0

[ism22]

I. dont know what all the fuss is about.....we had our say in 1962. The guy at 2.15 mark would vote (maybe) YES but the dude at 5.30 would definitely vote NO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zb8yLammA0

I'm gonna vote yes for the constitutional recognition, including the voice. In short...

- This is what was asked for in the statement, as published by the Referendum Council. Peter Dutton can go fark himself.

- As a lawyer, I have zero concerns about the drafting giving rise to any of the FUD that's being spread.

- I've asked my indigenous friends and colleagues what they think about it all. Based on these discussions I'm comfortable that they want it. Appreciate that some may not (e.g. Lidia Thorpe). However, she's not a friend of mine and I don't share her political beliefs.

- Division exists within all communities. For example gay people are allowed to be right-wing. There will never be one single policy that 100x of a group agrees with. Thus, I ask the people who I trust and form beliefs on this basis.

Not much else to say really. It's a democratic process. I hope people are courteous/respectful about it and that those spreading FUD (rather than engaging with the drafting/policy outcomes) stop being immature.

[Rooster1908]

It will make one group worse in an unguided attempt to make another's better. I think there is roughly 40 Billion spent each year on indigenous affairs but that may be wrong. The help need to be done properly and not just thrown at the wrong people. Give people a leg up but they must learn to stand on there own . Continually giving is not the answer

[Andrew Walker]

Isn’t it great ism and his old mate pc have found some common ground.

Both virtue signallers and one can see them sharing a craft beer or eight followed up by a bottle of Izzy’s finest limoncello. With the central tenet of the conversation being their highly successful careers ( I mean a lawyer and an educator) and belittling the No voters.

Both pained and deeply troubled by those whom they perceive to lack their intelligence levels and not share their box with the view of the world With the discussion then turning to how emotionally immature the No voters are and how they are missing a great and perhaps once in a lifetime opportunity to right the wrongs of the past

After all saying sorry was just the beginning and no where near enough.

[ism22]

Isn’t it great ism and his old mate pc have found some common ground.

Both virtue signallers and one can see them sharing a craft beer or eight followed up by a bottle of Izzy’s finest limoncello. With the central tenet of the conversation being their highly successful careers ( I mean a lawyer and an educator) and belittling the No voters.

Both pained and deeply troubled by those whom they perceive to lack their intelligence levels and not share their box with the view of the world With the discussion then turning to how emotionally immature the No voters are and how they are missing a great and perhaps once in a lifetime opportunity to right the wrongs of the past

After all saying sorry was just the beginning and no where near enough.

I have at no stage suggested that people spreading FUD lack the same intelligence that I do. Rather, I think that Peta Credlin's tactic of intentionally spamming public discourse with a discussion about whether we should be reading the 1 page statement or including '25 additional pages detailing broader consultations during the lead-up to its publication' as part of it.

Credlin's not stupid. She's being intentionally childish/mischievous about all this, I would say in a calculated manner (i.e. the plan to do all this was workshopped).

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For a full summary of events, please refer to:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...ined/epy384an8

In short though:

- Credlin FOI'd a 26 page preliminary document that was already widely available online, claiming she'd found a dirty little secret by doing so. This was mischievously and intentionally seeded into an interview in order to hijack discussions about the value of the voice with white noise about the length of a document.

- Albo's been clear that when saying 'the full statement', he means the single-page statement about constitutional recognition. Further, this is all that's being asked of the public for the referendum.

- I personally don't think it's productive to over-emphasise what Jacinta Price and Lidia Thorpe have to say about the referendum itself. They're not politicians that I would ordinarily vote for, or ones who I trust to speak for the (much closer) indigenous friends/colleagues who've explained their positions to me.

[Andrew Walker]

I have at no stage suggested that people spreading FUD lack the same intelligence that I do. Rather, I think that Peta Credlin's tactic of intentionally spamming public discourse with a discussion about whether we should be reading the 1 page statement or including '25 additional pages detailing broader consultations during the lead-up to its publication' as part of it.

Credlin's not stupid. She's being intentionally childish/mischievous about all this, I would say in a calculated manner (i.e. the plan to do all this was workshopped).

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For a full summary of events, please refer to:

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/...ined/epy384an8

In short though:

- Credlin FOI'd a 26 page preliminary document that was already widely available online, claiming she'd found a dirty little secret by doing so. This was mischievously and intentionally seeded into an interview in order to hijack discussions about the value of the voice with white noise about the length of a document.

- Albo's been clear that when saying 'the full statement', he means the single-page statement about constitutional recognition. Further, this is all that's being asked of the public for the referendum.

- I personally don't think it's productive to over-emphasise what Jacinta Price and Lidia Thorpe have to say about the referendum itself. They're not politicians that I would ordinarily vote for, or ones who I trust to speak for the (much closer) indigenous friends/colleagues who've explained their positions to me.

I see.You think it is all some sort of right wing conspiracy. Welcome to the rabbit hole Izzy

[Rooster1908]

He's answered it a million times, citing the statement as published by the Referendum Council.

It's so frigging weird that Dutton's PR crew have come up with a tactic of 'debate the length rather than the question of the referendum'.

Zzzz...

The reason for the referendum should be the debate not the question.once the genie is out it's a tough one to put back in .Gun laws while I agree with them are a case in point .See lawyer shite