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  • Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post

    I read your first sentence but really couldn’t cstevfurvthe rest.

    I never came on here and heckled anyone for whichever way they voted. If you actually read back through, you would see that but so I think you are one who is doing the heckling. Heckling because might be still butthurt at the result maybe?

    As I said, it’s over, NO won. Move on but you refuse to do so. The issues are coming the yes voters who fail to accept that they lost.

    The sad fact is tho that no one actually wins out of this as the whole sorry thing has caused more division than before it was even a question.
    Your last sentence is the kicker mate, the division die was cast as soon as the 'Voice' became part of the Constitutional proposal. And just so unnecessary as you allude to.

    An unnamed group of "indigenous leaders" have penned a 3 pager filled with blame, accusations and entitlement. It's kind of a shame their week of silence ended...they obviously don't represent all Australians hence the hiding behind the couch.

    The one thing we all wanted (well almost all) was for everyone to bury the hatchet post referendum and come together to make some practical changes for disadvantaged persons in this country. Sadly some are determined to not play nicely, and maybe never will.

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    • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

      Did you celebrate by purchasing some more white sheets?

      You are far from the sharpest tool in the shed, but you are a tool, never the less.

      It was never ever about reparations of any sort, and just more examples of the Bollocks and misinformation spread by the No Campaign, which was believed hook line and sinker by the less educated like you.

      Obviously, you have absolutely no idea about the functions of either Parliament or the High Court or what is meant by the term separation of powers when it relates to the law.

      To simplify it for you in the simplest way possible, Parliament makes the laws, and the High Court interprets and applies the laws. 101 Australian Constitution Law

      The State, territory, and local governments have no power under the Commonwealth Constitution to enter into treaties you mention relates to international treaties and not domestic treaties - 101 Australian Constitutional Law

      States and territories can legally enter into domestic treaties with FNP (First Nation Peoples).

      It should worry everyone that people like you have the vote.
      There we go. Labelling others as racists. Labellers like you are EXACT reason many voted NO. How do ya them now? lol

      How dumb is it to label others a dumb when you have about as much intelligence as a cork sanding block.
      FVCK CANCER

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      • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

        Curious, what's your definition of virtue signalling and what negative connotations are you implying by using the term? I'm a simp... spell it out for me
        I wouldn’t be so hard on yourself mate.
        FVCK CANCER

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        • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

          1. Nobody's arguing the result, they're unpacking it. If it's done and dusted from your perspective, why don't you move on? Oh wait, because you're here to heckle people with your line that people 'lost' and 'fail to accept that they lost'. But that's not heckling and you've already moved on... apparently

          2. So you're saying we should never have referendums? IMO this is a self-fulfilling argument for your side of politics as the left are social progressives (i.e. look to progress social policies of this nature) and the right are conservatives (i.e. resist changes to social policies of this nature). We saw this with John Howard intentionally changing the marriage act so that nobody could go and register a gay marriage with a celebrant. The Libs then divided the community through a 'plebiscite' when they didn't even need a referendum to change the law back to what it was before they changed it. So... we shouldn't have any political parties that push for social progression because conscience votes are always 'divisive'? Get real, mate.
          Talk about getting real… you need to stop trying to twist words to suit your own one eyed agenda.

          if you think the referendum hasn’t divided the country, you are kidding yourself. Proof is in the replies of people like you and Sally.

          And for what it’s worth, I don’t recall any NO voters labelling and stereotyping any yes voters. The other way around tho… well.
          FVCK CANCER

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          • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

            Sorry Salvo, I’m on your side but speaking in such a condescending tone to people does not help matters.
            Exactly MR. I don’t get it really.
            FVCK CANCER

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            • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

              Curious, what's your definition of virtue signalling and what negative connotations are you implying by using the term? I'm a simp... spell it out for me
              Take no notice Izzy. You've played it straight throughout but arguing with mugs is debilitating. "Virtue signalling" like Conspiracy theory and "Woke" are routinely misused by contributors here and there's little point asking for clarification, their uninterested in anything substantive in any debate. Unsubtle animus and abuse usually passes for debate and that's the Aussie way - if you're ill informed and that's what News Corp devotees are, you ain't got much more than slagging off.

              For the main No players here, the issue was not the Voice it was simply an exercise in politically partisan agitation. The Tories, no doubt led by Murdoch, withdrew support and hung it around Albo's neck. The ALP was the main target and will continue to be as you point out.

              Nothing fascinates me more than the strident working class Tory with the arse out of his/her shorts - all mouth and woolly headedness. Of course the CCP casts them aside where they belong. Voting in China is extensive but restricted to the 90 million members of the party. The Meatheads don't get to decide anything because, as is the case here, they are so often just malcontents and the willing dupes of powerful interests. But you can't just rock up with a membership fee, you need to show past and present engagement with your community, a commitment to social betterment. The "No" boys'n'girls would find that well and truly beyond them.
              Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 10-25-2023, 04:34 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                Your last sentence is the kicker mate, the division die was cast as soon as the 'Voice' became part of the Constitutional proposal. And just so unnecessary as you allude to.

                An unnamed group of "indigenous leaders" have penned a 3 pager filled with blame, accusations and entitlement. It's kind of a shame their week of silence ended...they obviously don't represent all Australians hence the hiding behind the couch.

                The one thing we all wanted (well almost all) was for everyone to bury the hatchet post referendum and come together to make some practical changes for disadvantaged persons in this country. Sadly some are determined to not play nicely, and maybe never will.
                Agreed mate.

                And you are still the SGW!
                FVCK CANCER

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                • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                  1. Nobody's arguing the result, they're unpacking it. If it's done and dusted from your perspective, why don't you move on? Oh wait, because you're here to heckle people with your line that people 'lost' and 'fail to accept that they lost'. But that's not heckling and you've already moved on... apparently

                  2. So you're saying we should never have referendums? IMO this is a self-fulfilling argument for your side of politics as the left are social progressives (i.e. look to progress social policies of this nature) and the right are conservatives (i.e. resist changes to social policies of this nature). We saw this with John Howard intentionally changing the marriage act so that nobody could go and register a gay marriage with a celebrant. The Libs then divided the community through a 'plebiscite' when they didn't even need a referendum to change the law back to what it was before they changed it. So... we shouldn't have any political parties that push for social progression because conscience votes are always 'divisive'? Get real, mate.
                  Then unpack it in private instead of calling people racist and sheepies. Ya looooser

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                  • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                    1. Nobody's arguing the result, they're unpacking it. If it's done and dusted from your perspective, why don't you move on? Oh wait, because you're here to heckle people with your line that people 'lost' and 'fail to accept that they lost'. But that's not heckling and you've already moved on... apparently

                    2. So you're saying we should never have referendums? IMO this is a self-fulfilling argument for your side of politics as the left are social progressives (i.e. look to progress social policies of this nature) and the right are conservatives (i.e. resist changes to social policies of this nature). We saw this with John Howard intentionally changing the marriage act so that nobody could go and register a gay marriage with a celebrant. The Libs then divided the community through a 'plebiscite' when they didn't even need a referendum to change the law back to what it was before they changed it. So... we shouldn't have any political parties that push for social progression because conscience votes are always 'divisive'? Get real, mate.
                    Yes you are 100% right about referendums and history and statistics shows the people don’t like to vote for change. Better the devil you know, don’t want to lose what I already have etc.

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                    • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

                      Take no notice Izzy. You've played it straight throughout but arguing with mugs is debilitating. "Virtue signalling" like Conspiracy theory and "Woke" are routinely misused by contributors here and there's little point asking for clarification, their uninterested in anything substantive in any debate. Unsubtle animus and abuse usually passes for debate and that's the Aussie way - if you're ill informed and that's what News Corp devotees are, you ain't got much more than slagging off.

                      For the main No players here, the issue was not the Voice it was simply an exercise in politically partisan agitation. The Tories, no doubt led by Murdoch, withdrew support and hung it around Albo's neck. The ALP was the main target and will continue to be as you point out.

                      Nothing fascinates me more than the strident working class Tory with the arse out of his/her shorts - all mouth and woolly headedness. Of course the CCP casts them aside where they belong. Voting in China is extensive but restricted to the 90 million members of the party. The Meatheads don't get to decide anything because, as is the case here, they are so often just malcontents and the willing dupes of powerful interests. But you can't just rock up with a membership fee, you need to show past and present engagement with your community, a commitment to social betterment. The "No" boys'n'girls would find that well and truly beyond them.
                      The first two sentences are an absolute crock of shit. The rest nothing more than a word salad
                      Last edited by Andrew Walker; 10-25-2023, 04:50 PM.
                      When you trust your television
                      what you get is what you got
                      Cause when they own the information
                      they can bend it all they want

                      John Mayer

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                      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

                        Take no notice Izzy. You've played it straight throughout but arguing with mugs is debilitating. "Virtue signalling" like Conspiracy theory and "Woke" are routinely misused by contributors here and there's little point asking for clarification, their uninterested in anything substantive in any debate. Unsubtle animus and abuse usually passes for debate and that's the Aussie way - if you're ill informed and that's what News Corp devotees are, you ain't got much more than slagging off.

                        For the main No players here, the issue was not the Voice it was simply an exercise in politically partisan agitation. The Tories, no doubt led by Murdoch, withdrew support and hung it around Albo's neck. The ALP was the main target and will continue to be as you point out.

                        Nothing fascinates me more than the strident working class Tory with the arse out of his/her shorts - all mouth and woolly headedness. Of course the CCP casts them aside where they belong. Voting in China is extensive but restricted to the 90 million members of the party. The Meatheads don't get to decide anything because, as is the case here, they are so often just malcontents and the willing dupes of powerful interests. But you can't just rock up with a membership fee, you need to show past and present engagement with your community, a commitment to social betterment. The "No" boys'n'girls would find that well and truly beyond them.
                        I have to say Paddo the virtue signalling and woke stuff really winds me up as was evidenced in my postings yesterday. But I had my say and it’s time to move on.

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                        • Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                          I have to say Paddo the virtue signalling and woke stuff really winds me up as was evidenced in my postings yesterday. But I had my say and it’s time to move on.
                          You are too sensitive as it was never aimed at you
                          When you trust your television
                          what you get is what you got
                          Cause when they own the information
                          they can bend it all they want

                          John Mayer

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                          • Originally posted by rented tracksuit View Post
                            Agreed mate.

                            And you are still the SGW!
                            Alrighty... post sig update comin up!

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                            • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

                              Alrighty... post sig update comin up!
                              Oh Jaxxx we can’t wait
                              When you trust your television
                              what you get is what you got
                              Cause when they own the information
                              they can bend it all they want

                              John Mayer

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                              • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                                You are too sensitive as it was never aimed at you
                                Yes not directly I agree but as a yes voter it suggests that I didn’t think things through, that the choice I made was based on wanting to appear virtuous and moral. Which for me it wasn’t.

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