Terrorist attacks in Israel

[Andrew Walker]

I was just replying to Paddo's saying about Ritter "whom you may remember as a US inspector who blew the whistle on WMDs".....i do remember Ritter but for the other reason. That's all.

Incidentally in nearly all state in the USA, soliciting minors online and organising to meet up with them is a felony. Misdemeanors are generally for offences that carry a 12 month or less sentence.

Ritter was far from alone when he predicted that Iraq had no WMD. Michael Moore, the Late Senator Ted Kennedy, Senator Bernie Sanders: Congress member Barbara Lee.....even actors Jane Fonda, Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon.....they are just a few who said the intelligence revealing Iraq had WMD was flawed and were against the war. When George W Bush said of Saddam " he tried to kill my Dad", the alarm bells went off as to the real reason for invading.

As for what is happening now in Palestine,- i believe Netanyahu should be tried as a war criminal .....as should any member of Hamas that were involved in October 7. All of them are filth

Ok

I’m not in any way defending his actions


Indeed he was not alone in that prediction Why even I was calling this before the invasion. I also questioned the official narrative on this and think there is a chance what Ritter (and again he is not alone ) is saying is on the money

Agreed.

[Random Rooster]

I've seen 10 minutes of the unedited footage of the Hamas attack on October 7th, mostly filmed on the Hamas Go Pro's, and those filthy vile pigs are going straight to hell to suck on Satans penis- it was that bad.

I would have thought the US could order a ceasefire yet Biden asked Netanyahu for just a 3 day halt in the first week of November it fell on deaf ears. The Netanyahu government has made it very clear that the US has no say in how they will conduct themselves in this attack. Biden said at the first meeting in Israel that international law and humanitarian law should be followed......and it was totally the opposite. The US should cut funding and military assistance to Israel.

Old Joe and Bibi have hated each other for decades, so the snub should be no surprise.

Regarding the US VISA sanctions on Israeli settlers in the West Bank who attack Palestinians...... for years there have been charity organisations in the US set up specifically to financially support these Israeli settlers. The actual biggest charity was set up by Jared Kushner when he was a government advisor- and of course all donations are 100% tax deductible- so yes the US taxpayer is the loser!! Once again its a case of the US meddling in the middle east and having it come back to bite them on the arse.

Regarding what is happening in Gaza now, all those who have ordered the bombing in Gaza will be joining those Hamas pigs sucking the devils penis. I cannot comprehend how humans can do this to humans....let alone children. There is no humanitarian plan in place due to the widespread bombing-it really is hell on earth. If anyone is interested on what the Arab world is seeing then tune into Al Jazeera TV- you will get a good dose of reality. This is going to set Israel and Zionists around the world back decades

[Paddo Colt 61]

The US's commitment to mitigating this atrocity is now seen for what it is, bullshit. The US is an old hand at atrocity - Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Iraq etc, etc and now a veto on the UN Security Council's call for a cease fire. The Great Satan was never a truer sobriquet. It is now clearly complicit in ethnic cleansing which is no surprise given its racist history.

Al Jazeera Randy? Most of the regulars on this site put their trust in SKY. The Oz MSM has long since done a job on Al Jazeera.

[Andrew Walker]

The US's commitment to mitigating this atrocity is now seen for what it is, bullshit. The US is an old hand at atrocity - Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Iraq etc, etc and now a veto on the UN Security Council's call for a cease fire. The Great Satan was never a truer sobriquet. It is now clearly complicit in ethnic cleansing which is no surprise given its racist history.

Al Jazeera Randy? Most of the regulars on this site put their trust in SKY. The Oz MSM has long since done a job on Al Jazeera.

Whilst the question was directed at Randy I cannot help but notice the likes of Jaxxx and a few others have gone missing from here since what you point out is becoming obvious to see.

[ism22]

Side note, why does the right of politics support zionism and left of politics supports an end to the illegal annexation of Palestine?

It must be said that it's odd how a bunch of right-wing, racist, religious zealots (who are all rich, white people) are using this single event as an excuse to storm Palestinian territories (for the purpose of conquest - they're not leaving!!!) while the world's busy damning Russia for doing the same thing to Ukraine.

There's totally a right-wing element to both of these invasions. What's unfortunate is that in the west, the right of politics relies on funding from zionists and oligarchs. Without those connections, the puzzle would be much easier to solve.

[King Salvo]

Total Bollocks and playing into the hands of Islamic Fundamentalist Jihadists - If you stopped supplying arms to Israel, there would be no more Israel.

It's amazing all these Muslim protestors supporting Palestinians, or in reality, Hamas, but not one protest about Syria, for instance—over 600,000 dead as a result of the Syrian government's army. Russian, Turkish, and Iranian forces.

We all know the reason for that: Israel is involved, so their Nazi-style brainwashing hatred of Jewish folk comes to the surface.

Russia had two wars against Chechen Muslims, which were also missed by these Muslims—42,000 children killed in that one by Russian forces.

Fancy having Putin a war criminal involved in any peace settlement after the unprovoked war he started with Ukraine plus Chechnya and Ergodan calling for Netanyahu to be charged as a war criminal when he is a war criminal—obliviously to what his forces are doing in North West Syria and to the Kurds in Syria and Iraq.

That's the way wars are: if you start one, you have to expect those you attack to respond, and there's no use playing the victim card for something you started—the bombing of German cities, for instance, and the nuclear bombs on Japan—where a lot of civilians were killed. The same thing: if you start a war, you reap what you sow.

Best bet is not to start one in the first place.

Palestinians wildly celebrated October 7 and were not backwards in beating and bashing the bodies of the victims when they were driven through the streets and filming all this on their phones. There were also large crowds in attendance and filming on their phones the murder and butchering of two Palestinians that were released in the hostage swap, accused of working for Israel.

Not withstanding how these Nazi Hamas militants filmed their deeds on October 7 as well as bragging about it.

Facts of Current conflict started again by the Arabs just like 1948/56/67/73/82 and 2006 and 2023 and other conflicts in between.

Political - Pre Hamas Invasion of Israel on October 7 2023

• Saudi Arabia and Israel were closing in on finalising peace accords - Saudi Arabia to recognise Israel and finalise normalising of relations
• Saudi Arabia also wanted a NATO type Military Pact that if Attacked US and other NATO Countries would come to their aid - Iran is the Saudi's main concern
• The 1947 2 state solution is the way forward- General consensus of the Arab league was they want Hamas gone - but who can take over - Hamas is an Ideology

Compare the above to below - Hamas are not interested in any solution so they have to be taken out - A lot of Arab countries want them taken out too.

Countries are very reluctant to take in Palestinians, knowing their love affair with terrorist groups going back to the PLO and now Nazi Hamas. Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, and Lebanon have found out the hard way: Lebanon has never recovered and suffers more again under Hezbollah.

When you support and back Terrorist groups and their Ideologies and actions then you can suffer the consequences of such poor decisions - the old you reap what you sow.

Hamas Manifesto: brief outlines

• Total Destruction of Israel
• Anti-Semitic Incitement: Exterminate all Jewish people worldwide. "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out, 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me; come and kill him.' (Article 7)".
• For All Palestinians to be martyrs as Palestine is a country of martyrs - total jihad - the call to Jihad
• Rejection of any and all existing and future Negotiated Peace treaties deals with Israel - An Act of High Treason which will be punishable and curse for ever be he that perpetrates such an act.
• Rejection of any negotiated peace settlements involving infidels: There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad.

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm


Hamas: War Planning

• Planned the invasion and attack on Israel over a number of years.
• Built 500 km of tunnels under Gaza, running the length and breadth, including bunkers and weapon arsenals.
• Built zero shelters for civilians.
• Refused civilian use of these tunnels and allowing them to move from areas Israel warned would be bombed. There are stacks of videos on Twitter of Palestinians saying this. used civilians as human shields

[Andrew Walker]

Did you Google all that Sally

[King Salvo]

Side note, why does the right of politics support zionism and left of politics supports an end to the illegal annexation of Palestine?

It must be said that it's odd how a bunch of right-wing, racist, religious zealots (who are all rich, white people) are using this single event as an excuse to storm Palestinian territories (for the purpose of conquest - they're not leaving!!!) while the world's busy damning Russia for doing the same thing to Ukraine.

There's totally a right-wing element to both of these invasions. What's unfortunate is that in the west, the right of politics relies on funding from zionists and oligarchs. Without those connections, the puzzle would be much easier to solve.

Been reading too many of Comrade Paddo's posts or fiction novels.

After the illegal annexation of "Palestine,"!!! the Romans gave it the name Syria Palaestina, formerly known as Judea, as punishment for the Judean insurrection. After the Ottoman Empire collapsed, the British renamed it the British Mandate of Palestine.

Palestine has never existed as a state or country and even the Muslims Quran testifies to that - Israel mentioned 43 times and Palestine 0 times,

Egypt occupied Gaza until 1967 and relinquished their claim on Gaza in 1978. They still claim it as Egyptian land. Jordan occupied the West Bank until 1967 and relinquished their claim on the West Bank in 1988. They also claim the West Bank is Jordanian territory.

Even Hamas officials were saying Palestinians don't really exist as an entity they are Egyptian. Jordanian . Syrian and Saudi Arabian

So right-wing religious racist zealots are behind it, you say, and all to do with Zionism and oligarchs controlling the world. It sounds like a good idea for a fictional film. Mmm, so what are Hamas and any of those other Islamic Jihadist Fundamentalist terrorist groups then? Flower power and peace-loving groups.

Ukraine did not invade Russia for Russia to then invade Ukraine. Israel had left Gaza in 2005, but Palestinians failed to learn lessons from the past by electing another terrorist group, this time Hamas. One would have thought they would have learned from their experiences under the corrupt PLO. Old Yasser Arafat was a multi-billionaire.

80% of Palestinians and Lebanese live below the poverty line, while the leaders and officials of the terrorist groups that control these countries, Hamas and Hezbollah, are multibillionaires.

You can see what Hamas spent the money on after the Hamas officials took their cut: tunnels, bunkers, weapon arsenals, and military budgets. Certainly not on civilians above ground. - Not one Shelter Built

Hamas officials are lapping it up in 5/6 star hotels in Qatar/Turkey/Iran with their billions and families ordering $200 USD per course meals.

What is it about these regimes that they can hoodwink and brainwash citizens and then lead them into war while the officials of these regimes rack up such wealth? Putin's estimated wealth is 200 billion USD.

That's one of real problems that needs solving

[King Salvo]

The US's commitment to mitigating this atrocity is now seen for what it is, bullshit. The US is an old hand at atrocity - Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Iraq etc, etc and now a veto on the UN Security Council's call for a cease fire. The Great Satan was never a truer sobriquet. It is now clearly complicit in ethnic cleansing which is no surprise given its racist history.

Al Jazeera Randy? Most of the regulars on this site put their trust in SKY. The Oz MSM has long since done a job on Al Jazeera.

Gees Comrade Paddo, you leave yourself open for ridicule. It is not surprising, as Marxists are far from the sharpest tools in the shed as far as current and historical events go.

Your Soviet Union, China, and Russia have vetoed many UN Security Council resolutions, so the USA is quite rightly able to do the same, especially in the new fight against Nazism, which Hamas's ideology mirrors.

Russia vetoes Security Council resolution condemning attempted annexation of Ukraine regions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...il_resolutions

North Koreans and North Vietnamese invaded the southern countries, which started these wars.
Cambodia—you overlooked or have forgotten about Pol Pot—another of those nutty Marxists killing anyone and everyone at will—the Marxist way
Iraq—well, they did invade Kuwait and were assisted by Palestinians who were later kicked out of Kuwait—the mistake was they should have taken Saddam out the first time.

Racist History: mmm, Soviet Union and China, no need to say anymore about their industry-style atrocities (Gulags) and the mass deportations of ethnic and religious minorities; ethnic cleansing on a mass scale; The Marxist Way; Russia too; 2 Chechnya Wars against Chechnya Muslims; the Georgian War; and the Ukraine War—certainly all 4 of these ethnic cleansing-based.

China - The mass internment of Uyghurs and other Turkic Muslims in the camps has become largest-scale arbitrary detention of ethnic and religious minorities since World War II.

[Paddo Colt 61]

As usual, your misinformed "West Right or Wrong" rant Kingo. Totally informed by Right Wing media. I'm contemplating a detailed counter but am somewhat dissuaded by the thought that people dismiss counter arguments because of laziness or more commonly because of cognitive dissonance and the scale of refutation required for your last post is daunting.

In Australia we have a dominant Right Wing media that most people say they don't trust but demonstrably do and you're a prime example. Progressive opinion functions only in the limited space that Murdoch/9 Media allows.

I append an article which cites a Uni of London study on US disinformation. It's at variance with the rot that you constantly regurgitate.

https://johnmenadue.com/exposed-the-...ising-enemies/

[Paddo Colt 61]

I will make one comment though. Western media has demonised the Kmer Rouge in every possible way but what enabled them to initiate their agrarian revolution was mass and interminable US bombing of the already miserable Kmer peasantry, killing hundreds of thousands, just as had happened in North Korea in the 50s. The peasantry rightly saw the westernised middle class and Western oriented Sihanouk as complicit. They sought to de-Westernise Cambodia as a result and they turned on the class that had turned on them. I'm not saying what occurred there was/is right but nothing happens in a vacuum.

Ironically, you are hypocritically supporting the state of Israel doing pretty much the same thing.

[King Salvo]

I will make one comment though. Western media has demonised the Kmer Rouge in every possible way but what enabled them to initiate their agrarian revolution was mass and interminable US bombing of the already miserable Kmer peasantry, killing hundreds of thousands, just as had happened in North Korea in the 50s. The peasantry rightly saw the westernised middle class and Western oriented Sihanouk as complicit. They sought to de-Westernise Cambodia as a result and they turned on the class that had turned on them. I'm not saying what occurred there was/is right but nothing happens in a vacuum.

Ironically, you are hypocritically supporting the state of Israel doing pretty much the same thing.

Israel

Israel have been continually attacked by Arabs and Terrorist groups since 1948 - Nazi Hamas have said countless times that Oct 7 was the first and there will be many many more of these until Israel is destroyed and all Jewish Folk are exterminated worldwide - I don't see that as being an Idle Threat and Neither does Israel.

'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' (Article 7)

Hamas built 500 km of tunnels for Hamas use only and no air raid shelters, as well as refusing citizens to leave areas that Israel pre-warned would be bombed. Their manifesto says they want all Palestinians to be martyrs, as Palestine is a country of martyrs. Call it out for what it is: using civilians as human shields.

Hamas can never be part of or involved with any peace accords going forward, whether defeated or not.

Hamas Manifesto

https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

Cambodia

Gees, the Western media has a strong case. Not quite sure how you always turn history and current events into the west being at fault and also be an apologist for Marxism and Marxist dictatorships.

Pol Pot tried to take Cambodia, or Kampuchea, as they called it, back to the dark ages under his zero-year plan and for all folk to live in self-sufficient communes without the need for money and religion - They are Buddhist.

Anyone that was middle class , Intellectual in any way and even folk wearing glasses or knowing another language were either executed or tortured - 1/4 of Cambodia's population were murdered.

Despots - The Old and the New - Mao and Pot

[Andrew Walker]

Outstanding googling Sally

[King Salvo]

As usual, your misinformed "West Right or Wrong" rant Kingo. Totally informed by Right Wing media. I'm contemplating a detailed counter but am somewhat dissuaded by the thought that people dismiss counter arguments because of laziness or more commonly because of cognitive dissonance and the scale of refutation required for your last post is daunting.

In Australia we have a dominant Right Wing media that most people say they don't trust but demonstrably do and you're a prime example. Progressive opinion functions only in the limited space that Murdoch/9 Media allows.

I append an article which cites a Uni of London study on US disinformation. It's at variance with the rot that you constantly regurgitate.

https://johnmenadue.com/exposed-the-...ising-enemies/

A. B. Abrams is a well-known Marxist who peddles misinformation and conspiracy theories. - Why he is featured on the Menadue's Malarkey site.

According to him, nothing happened in Tiananmen Square nor is happening to Muslims in China; they love being in those camps being "educated" on the Marxist way, and nothing is happening in Syria either. Bashar al-Assad Government forces, along with co-conspirators Turkey, Russia, and Iran, are not bombing north-west Syria or are trying to wipe out Syrian and Iraqi Kurds.

It's the big bad West causing trouble and shoddy tradies you bang on about, which is why the buildings are collapsing.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Oh yeah. You've been wrong about the Ukraine and its "democracy" - now a basket case and all Zelenski's fault. An egotistical fool who thought he could ride the tiger with the encouragement of the US.

No-one mentions Tiananmen anymore, Assange blew the whistle on it, that's why they want to kill him. Likewise the Uighur camps have been exposed as lies and propaganda.

Bashar Al Assad is the legal Government of Syria. The US, wanting to snooker Russia and involved on the pretext that it needs to combat jihadis, is the cause of much of the misery there. Would be good to see some of that Salvo compassion directed at Palestinian kids.