Terrorist attacks in Israel

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

If Hamas want a war why don’t they just take their guns and challenge the Israeli army. They are cowards going after women and children and doing the most horrific things to them.

I agree with you that Hamas is an evil and sick organisation. I'm just not sure why you are so pro-Israel. They are just as bad. Are you of the Hebrew faith yourself? I think you are most likely of German heritage and not Jewish. But why so pro-Israel?

[Andrew Walker]

The response (if any) should be interesting

[Random Rooster]

Me no understand a sense of nationalism so strong that the community is able and willing to form sizeable paramilitaries to fight (on behalf of the people) for a principle. I can't relate to Jax's patriotism. My brother dodged the racist war in Viet by simply presenting a doctor's certificate certifying that he had chronic Rhinitis. For me our real Viet heroes were the guys who went to jail rather than be a part of it.

How can you get that passionate about risking your existence? But people obviously do, in sufficient numbers. It's untrue to suggest that Hamas is not part of the community and widely embraced. I would be cleaned up pronto if it was not - give-ups everywhere.

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You obviously didn't read the Hamas charter. You dont need MSM or anyone to tell you who they are-let them tell you in writing!

It's untrue to suggest that Hamas is not part of the community and widely embraced.- im not suggesting it-i know it....and so does the entire Arab world, except for the country that sponsors them-Iran and other terrorist organisations. Hamas call for Jihad (which is part of their official charter) has been met with silence from the other middle east countries.

Widely embraced? You know this isn't the first time they kill Israelis ( 90 suicide bombers in Israel in the last 17 years) and when the Israelis retaliate Hamas go hiding in underground tunnels using Palestinian civilians as shields. Then when innocent Palestinians get killed the world comes down on Israel, who then back off.....and the cycle to start again.

This time Israel has had enough and are going to ignore the worlds plea for no retaliation. Again the innocent Palestinian civilians will bear the brunt of it all- and the most vulnerable people at that.
I don't agree with Israels ground offensive reply. I'm not a believer in replying with violence to violence. I'd be engaging a country like Turkey, who still have communication lines with Hamas, to get back the hostages and avoid having any more death of civilians. Easier said than done, as horrible as it sounds, hostages have worth.


Im. not sure why you are mentioning the Vietnam war. Donald Trump got a bogus doctors report for bone spurs to avoid being drafted. Makes him hero ?

[mightyrooster]

Bloody religion..........................nothing good comes from it.
You'd think in this day and age people would outgrow their silly god fantasies.

So, so true Eddie.

[Thirteen]

You obviously didn't read the Hamas charter. You dont need MSM or anyone to tell you who they are-let them tell you in writing!

It's untrue to suggest that Hamas is not part of the community and widely embraced.- im not suggesting it-i know it....and so does the entire Arab world, except for the country that sponsors them-Iran and other terrorist organisations. Hamas call for Jihad (which is part of their official charter) has been met with silence from the other middle east countries.

Widely embraced? You know this isn't the first time they kill Israelis ( 90 suicide bombers in Israel in the last 17 years) and when the Israelis retaliate Hamas go hiding in underground tunnels using Palestinian civilians as shields. Then when innocent Palestinians get killed the world comes down on Israel, who then back off.....and the cycle to start again.

This time Israel has had enough and are going to ignore the worlds plea for no retaliation. Again the innocent Palestinian civilians will bear the brunt of it all- and the most vulnerable people at that.
I don't agree with Israels ground offensive reply. I'm not a believer in replying with violence to violence. I'd be engaging a country like Turkey, who still have communication lines with Hamas, to get back the hostages and avoid having any more death of civilians. Easier said than done, as horrible as it sounds, hostages have worth.


Im. not sure why you are mentioning the Vietnam war. Donald Trump got a bogus doctors report for bone spurs to avoid being drafted. Makes him hero ?

Israel will destroy Hamas this time. There won’t be any backing down.

[ism22]

I think one reason why all of this is difficult to fathom is that we live in a stable, secular, rules-based society. Surprise surprise there's parts of the world where things are a little bit less orderly.

[Carlos Parra]

I think one reason why all of this is difficult to fathom is that we live in a stable, secular, rules-based society. Surprise surprise there's parts of the world where things are a little bit less orderly.

Are you referring to the medieval world?

[Random Rooster]

Israel will destroy Hamas this time. There won’t be any backing down.

Yeah but where are they? Dont think they are conveniently huddled all together in underground tunnels in the Gaza. When you have time to plan a major terrorist attack that catches your enemy off guard, you also have time to know what their response will be- and where you should be. Its not unrealistic for Hamas to be split into Syria, Iran, Lebanon, saudi Arabia and even Egypt. Even the call by Hamas for its citizens to not evacuate could be a Cameron Munster type dummy to make Israel think levelling out Gaza will be effectively getting to most of Hamas.

This whole event has really exposed big holes in Israeli intelligence. Netanyahu political career will end sooner rather than later

[Thirteen]

Yeah but where are they? Dont think they are conveniently huddled all together in underground tunnels in the Gaza. When you have time to plan a major terrorist attack that catches your enemy off guard, you also have time to know what their response will be- and where you should be. Its not unrealistic for Hamas to be split into Syria, Iran, Lebanon, saudi Arabia and even Egypt. Even the call by Hamas for its citizens to not evacuate could be a Cameron Munster type dummy to make Israel think levelling out Gaza will be effectively getting to most of Hamas.

This whole event has really exposed big holes in Israeli intelligence. Netanyahu political career will end sooner rather than later

You’re right. They will be hiding like rats in sewers and hiding amongst civilians. They love when their civilians die. It’s an opportunity to gain world sympathy. They have no value for life, hence the 90 suicide bombers who entered Israel over the past 17 years. But they will be found and them and their resources will be destroyed.

[Paddo Colt 61]

The sort of emotional, ignorant and unquestioning stridency that marked the referendum is evident here. Randy suggesting that Hamas is on it's own and has no popular support is ludicrous. MR clutches the pearls and virtue signals/protests that she hates violence - is that all you've got? And 13 again shows his thoroughgoing dependence on News Ltd for all of his opinions.

The following potted history of Palestine should be read and, hopefully, responded to thoughtfully.

https://johnmenadue.com/palestines-u...ds-conscience/

[eddie]

Well said Eddie. If both parties took their imaginary friends out of this they could clearly leave each other the hell alone.

When you think of all the deaths and destruction that is down to religion, christians included, it's a wonder it hasn't been banned.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

When you think of all the deaths and destruction that is down to religion, christians included, it's a wonder it hasn't been banned.

I agree mate that religion is behind the terrorist horrors we are seeing today. But despite the history of violence and inhumanity that most religions have perpetrated, it is the failure of one group to move into the modern world that threatens our peacetime. And thats obviously the Islamic extremists that are a threat right across many parts of the world right now.

Religions will never be banned but I take your point. People are searching for purpose and community and religions often provide that. And many times thats fine as long as fear and violence aren't the drivers. But on the negative side there are those that still use religion to dominate others for power and self gratification.

Some cultures exist in the 21st century but with medieval values. A disastrous cocktail.

[mightyrooster]

The sort of emotional, ignorant and unquestioning stridency that marked the referendum is evident here. Randy suggesting that Hamas is on it's own and has no popular support is ludicrous. MR clutches the pearls and virtue signals/protests that she hates violence - is that all you've got? And 13 again shows his thoroughgoing dependence on News Ltd for all of his opinions.

The following potted history of Palestine should be read and, hopefully, responded to thoughtfully.

https://johnmenadue.com/palestines-u...ds-conscience/

So we’re adding a bit of sexism to the equation now. Thanks Paddo.

[Andrew Walker]

This is all becoming quite boring now

[Paddo Colt 61]

When you think of all the deaths and destruction that is down to religion, christians included, it's a wonder it hasn't been banned.

A shining light - Marxism is atheistic Eddie. Religion is used by the unscrupulous to manipulate the masses. Only Conservatives laud "Freedom of Religion".