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  • #91
    Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

    A shining light - Marxism is atheistic Eddie. Religion is used by the unscrupulous to manipulate the masses. Only Conservatives laud "Freedom of Religion".
    Yes Mr Colt.
    Maybe I'm a bit hardline, but I don't approve of children being brain-washed.
    All this "the lord is my shepard, and we are sheep" stuff.

    The catholic church did it's best to ruin my childhood, but unfortunately for them , my parents beat them to it.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Dr. Voodoo Man View Post

      I agree with you that Hamas is an evil and sick organisation. I'm just not sure why you are so pro-Israel. They are just as bad. Are you of the Hebrew faith yourself? I think you are most likely of German heritage and not Jewish. But why so pro-Israel?
      I’ve always had an interest in the Middle East and what goes on there. I’m very well read on the subject and follow Middle Eastern politics closely. Anyone who is educated on the subject and knows the true facts would support Israel in this battle. Jews have occupied the land of Israel for thousands of years. It’s their land. The Israelis have had no choice but to limit the Palestinians based on their past behaviors and terrorists activities.

      No German. Not sure why you thought this.
      Last edited by Thirteen; 10-17-2023, 04:39 PM.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

        I’ve always had an interest in the Middle East and what goes on there. I’m very well read on the subject and follow Middle Eastern politics closely. Anyone who is educated on the subject and knows the true facts would support Israel in this battle. Jews have occupied the land of Israel for thousands of years. It’s their land. The Israelis have had no choice but to limit the Palestinians based on their past behaviors and terrorists activities.

        No German. Not sure why you thought this.
        You forget I know your name. Remember when you wanted everyone to use their real names? Too easy to search based on details you have shared.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Dr. Voodoo Man View Post

          You forget I know your name. Remember when you wanted everyone to use their real names? Too easy to search based on details you have shared.
          I remember you know my name but it’s not a German name.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Thirteen View Post

            I’ve always had an interest in the Middle East and what goes on there. I’m very well read on the subject and follow Middle Eastern politics closely. Anyone who is educated on the subject and knows the true facts would support Israel in this battle. Jews have occupied the land of Israel for thousands of years. It’s their land. The Israelis have had no choice but to limit the Palestinians based on their past behaviors and terrorists activities.

            No German. Not sure why you thought this.
            It's not as simple as that. Palestine's past is complicated and multifaceted, with political, cultural, and religious factors that have changed over many years.

            I copied and pasted the below but its accurate.

            Ancient History:
            • Prehistoric Times: The area now known as Palestine has been inhabited since prehistoric times. Archaeological evidence suggests human presence dating back to the Paleolithic period.
            • Ancient Civilizations: Throughout antiquity, various civilizations, including the Canaanites, Phoenicians, Israelites, and Philistines, inhabited the region.
            Classical and Medieval Periods:
            • Roman and Byzantine Rule: In 63 BCE, the Romans under Pompey conquered Jerusalem. Later, it became part of the Byzantine Empire.
            • Islamic Conquest: In 638 CE, Palestine was conquered by Muslim forces led by Caliph Umar, becoming part of the Islamic Caliphate.
            • Crusader Period: In the 11th century, Palestine became a battleground during the Crusades, with Christian crusaders and Muslim forces fighting for control of the region.
            Ottoman Rule (1517-1917):
            • Ottoman Empire: Palestine was part of the Ottoman Empire for centuries. During this period, the population was ethnically and religiously diverse, with Muslims, Christians, and Jews living side by side in various cities and towns.
            British Mandate (1917-1948):
            • Balfour Declaration: In 1917, the British government issued the Balfour Declaration, expressing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine.
            • British Mandate: After World War I, the League of Nations granted Britain the mandate to govern Palestine. During this time, tensions between Jewish and Arab communities escalated.
            Modern Period and Israeli-Palestinian Conflict:
            • United Nations Partition Plan (1947): The United Nations proposed a partition plan in 1947, dividing Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states, with Jerusalem as an international city. Jewish leaders accepted the plan, but Arab leaders rejected it.
            • 1948 Arab-Israeli War: Following the declaration of the State of Israel in 1948, neighboring Arab countries invaded, leading to a conflict that resulted in displacement and significant changes in borders.
            • Palestinian Displacement (Nakba): Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians were displaced or fled during the 1948 war, leading to deep-seated refugee issues.
            • Subsequent Conflicts: Several conflicts between Israel and its Arab neighbors occurred in subsequent years, including the Six-Day War (1967) and the Yom Kippur War (1973). Additionally, tensions between Israelis and Palestinians within the occupied territories have led to numerous conflicts and peace attempts.
            Contemporary Period:
            • Peace Process: Efforts have been made to achieve peace between Israelis and Palestinians, including the Oslo Accords in the 1990s. However, a lasting resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has remained elusive, with issues such as borders, refugees, and the status of Jerusalem remaining major points of contention.
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            • #96
              I’m happy you copied and pasted this I’d have hated to hear you wrote this as it won’t make a shred of difference to thirteens way of thinking Which is bombs away, send in the ground troops and kill every last one of ‘em
              Last edited by Andrew Walker; 10-17-2023, 06:01 PM.
              When you trust your television
              what you get is what you got
              Cause when they own the information
              they can bend it all they want

              John Mayer

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
                I’m happy you copied and pasted this I’d have hated to hear you wrote this as it won’t make a shred of difference to thirteens way of thinking Which is bombs away, send in the ground troops and kill every last one of ‘em
                LOL!! It's too formal to pass off as my words - im a bit rough around the edges!

                I've seen unedited footage of the Hamas attack on the music festival. The most confronting and barbaric footage you will ever see since the Holocaust. Hamas aren't human- they are pure evil pigs.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

                  LOL!! It's too formal to pass off as my words - im a bit rough around the edges!

                  I've seen unedited footage of the Hamas attack on the music festival. The most confronting and barbaric footage you will ever see since the Holocaust. Hamas aren't human- they are pure evil pigs.
                  So are you joining in the chorus of level the joint and kill the lot of em
                  When you trust your television
                  what you get is what you got
                  Cause when they own the information
                  they can bend it all they want

                  John Mayer

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                    So are you joining in the chorus of level the joint and kill the lot of em
                    What would be your strategy to prevent further terrorist attacks on Israel?

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                    • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post
                      I’m happy you copied and pasted this I’d have hated to hear you wrote this as it won’t make a shred of difference to thirteens way of thinking Which is bombs away, send in the ground troops and kill every last one of ‘em
                      Not at all Andrew. I’d hate to see innocents get killed on either side. But any Palestinian’s who are killed would be the fault of Hamas who started this war and who hide behind civilians and coordinate from residential buildings.

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                      • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                        So are you joining in the chorus of level the joint and kill the lot of em
                        If you read any of my previous posts im very much against Israel sending ground troops or bombing the Gaza strip. Killing innocent Palestinian civilians (and possibly the hostages) will only make the whole situation worse.....and there's no guarantee you will be getting to most of the Hamas members. Additionally its creating a humanitarian catastrophe

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                          • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

                            If you read any of my previous posts im very much against Israel sending ground troops or bombing the Gaza strip. Killing innocent Palestinian civilians (and possibly the hostages) will only make the whole situation worse.....and there's no guarantee you will be getting to most of the Hamas members. Additionally its creating a humanitarian catastrophe
                            Yes I’ve read those but at times here you seem to be playing ping pong against yourself in that you seem to change tact for want of a better way to put it
                            When you trust your television
                            what you get is what you got
                            Cause when they own the information
                            they can bend it all they want

                            John Mayer

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                            • Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                              Ism Some of us here are talking important worldly matters even making minor progress on reaching a mutual understanding of one another I kindly ask you refrain soiling this thread with your tacky music
                              When you trust your television
                              what you get is what you got
                              Cause when they own the information
                              they can bend it all they want

                              John Mayer

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                              • Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                                Yes I’ve read those but at times here you seem to be playing ping pong against yourself in that you seem to change tact for want of a better way to put it
                                I haven't changed tack on anything. Hamas is a terrorist group by there own admission. What they did is beyond belief......and how they did it- evil pigs.

                                Any normal person would want them brought to justice- i just disagree about the how the Israeli is going about it in Gaza.....and there are many Israeli's who do too. Recent history has only proved fighting violence with violence doesn't work- what makes anyone think it will work now?

                                Before you ask "then what would you do?" my answer is i dont know....hence i'm discussing it in the " off topic" forum in a rugby league off season !! Death to more innocent civilians on both sides will be like throwing petrol on the flames.

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