Terrorist attacks in Israel

[Andrew Walker]

Just my thoughts Randy. I think the real term that was used was in terms of the numbers that will perish and be injured.
A sort of projected comparison by the time Israel has finished bombing the shit out of Palestine and steamrolling it as their form of payback

Both articles Paddo linked in my opinion are to the point and reflect my box with the view of the world to a tee That does not mean I condone what they have done It means I know why they did it.

Your last two paragraphs are in my opinion bang on the money Unfortunately the world we live in is far from ideal moral of just. In many ways it’s a sick twisted and cruel world where we do as best we can with what we are dealt We’ve been dealt a pretty good hand

Finally I too cracked up reading Jaxx being called Obsturmfuhrer. Quite appropriate considering his posts last night which in my opinion made him sound like a gaslighting, warmongering, zealot with hate in his heart

[mightyrooster]

I agree with RR. An eye for an eye, violence vs violence is not going to achieve anything but more death, misery and suffering. Most Palestinians on the Gaza strip do not support Hamas I think? Or am I wrong there? Most are just barely surviving in any case. How is killing more innocent people going to achieve anything? You can't beat bad with more bad. Anyway just my opinion. I really don't have any answers.

[mightyrooster]

I will also add, that I do know that Hamas is a heinous group which employs terror tactics hiding behind innocent people. We can reject Hamas and stand up against it but we should not ignore the fact that there are innocent people on all sides that just want to get on with their lives and do reject Hamas. This is what makes the situation complex.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

One thing we could all agree on is that Israel is about to blast Hamas off of this earth. They have a very substantial military and their response to these attacks is going to be terrible and almighty.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

And on the home front...the disgraceful scenes on our most iconic landmark beamed around the world.

What dreadful timing to stage a "peaceful protest" supporting Palestine the day after innocent people were slaughtered in the most heinous ways by the occupying Hamas terrorists. And it would have been more moderate to maybe not chant "gas the Jews", burn the Israeli flag, chant "river to the sea" comments and openly celebrate terrorist atrocities on innocent people.

But they got a police escort from Town Hall to the Opera House. And it was our Israeli Aussies and those of Jewish faith who were told to stay home. Mums and Dads were hoping to bring their confused kids to view the lit up sails and start the grieving and healing for them. But nope, lets take the easy option and sell a little more of our decent Aussie values down the shitter. There are about 100,000 people of Jewish faith in Oz, and around 10,000 Aussies living in Israel. We need to stand with them without equivocation.

Thanks NSW Govt and to our police for your heroic work. Where are the riot squads when you need them, or the heavy handed tactics against freedom protesters? How did these mindless, pathetic individuals get into this country? Have we had our normal good Aussie values of mateship and a fair go systematically eroded by hard left extremists like the Greens? I think we know the answer.These people walk amongst us.

These mongrels who owned our streets and landmarks are on a path to more radical action in this country, if we let them. Australian governments and law enforcements need to grow a spine and say a big Fcuk you to warped ideologies and protect Aussie values. Otherwise you'll be left to say something like "Its complex" while your mourning the loss of a loved one in our own backyard.

Try thinking Jaxx.

[Andrew Walker]

Try thinking Jaxx.

Apparently Jaxx had a day off yesterday I’d say a large portion of it was spent at Merrylands RSL doing his arse on keno and sinking copious amounts of booze. You know what they say What soberness conceals drunkenness reveals

[Andrew Walker]

One thing we could all agree on is that Israel is about to blast Hamas off of this earth. They have a very substantial military and their response to these attacks is going to be terrible and almighty.

Apart from just how many innocents will be killed The scary part of that is just how far will a country like Iran allow is Israel to go before they decide to get involved

[mightyrooster]

Apart from just how many innocents will be killed The scary part of that is just how far will a country like Iran allow is Israel to go before they decide to get involved

That’s what scares me too. We do not need Iran involved in this!

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Im going to agree and disagree with you Jack.

This is just my opinion.....

I hate any public protest/ support or whatever you want to call them on our streets when it comes to overseas events/wars /conflicts. My parents came from Italy after WW2 and would always remind us all how lucky they were to come here and how lucky we are to be born here. My old man got off a boat, knew no one, lived in a tin shed in Campsie for 3 years just to have crap employment- a wage that he would spend mostly on food and paying someone to teach him english. My siblings and myself would hear his stories and were horrified...but he would always say "God Bless Captain Cook". He was so proud to be naturalised - i still got the certificate because i knew what it meant to him. So when i see these weak gutted dogs (thx Ricky), most of whom im sure were born here, bring their vile hate to our home it really pisses me off. Chanting all that rubbish-what a disgrace. If you round them up and said "you're being deported to the Gaza to fight what you obviously believe in" they would piss their pants and cry. Instead they all went home to their warm bed at at their mothers place.

Next! There is zero need to light up the Opera House or any other public landmark with the colours of any other country besides ours. Especially in a war, you will provoke a reaction from one side or the other. Its unnecessary- totally futile.

NSW police did the right thing not to throw fuel on the fire.Their job was to de-escalate and that was achieved. Remember they had no warning of the gathering-nor was there any violence.You dont need riot squads when there's no riot.
I'm not a Greenie by any means but i'm not sure why you would bring them up or think its a " hard left extremist" fuelled situation. Its like a few years back when the Greens got blamed for the bushfires because they " wouldn't allow burn backs". Well no, they are a minor party who dont run the country. Don't flatter them by exaggerating their importance.

Thanks for at least a considered response mate, but I obviously disagree on a couple of points.

It wasn't a war until Israel's hand was forced by horrific terror tactics to declare same. The Governments decision to show some support for our Jewish citizens was a no-brainer in a basic humanitarian context. A liberal democracy like ours has to be true to our values, and be clear to denounce terrorism and not be cowered by it. Show some guts and never compromise our values of decency.

The other thing is our police were an absolute disgrace and an embarrassment for us on the world stage. Remember how brave and zero tolerant they were with freedom protesters during Covid in contrast?

[Random Rooster]

Jack i obviously hate these protests, or shows of support or whatever they want to call them, when its about overseas issues-especially wars. If they are violent or inciting violence then by all means our police need to shut them down-do whatever it takes, call the riot police or army. Sit them in a cell in Lithgow for 12 months to think about it- and yes i agree with Dutton (always a first!) if they are not from here send them back from where they came and never have them back.

Re Israel/Hamas.....It's been a war since 2007, when Hamas won the election, a terrorist organisation that acts as an Iranian proxy fighting unit. It's too late to discuss how and why Hamas was created, but the blame, and it pains me to give Paddo a set re-start on the fifth tackle, belongs with the United States and its messed-up relations with Iran. It's ironic that innocent Israelis and Palestinians are dying while the US and Iran stand by and watch. Iran will not be seen interfering, they can sit back and watch the mayhem they created without losing a single Iranian life or being attacked on their own soil. Similarly, the United States has two state of the art aircraft carriers in the area, surrounded by submarines below and drones above. I doubt we will see any combat there unless Hezballah has a death wish, but if we do, the US will knock them out within 24 hours.

Back to the point: we have both Israeli and Palestinian communities in Sydney. Our state government does not need to display its support for either community by lighting up landmarks in either combatant's colours. It will only produce unnecessary angst, which could escalate into something far worse.

Cmon Jack, those "freedom" protesters were breaking a temporary health emergency law. Was staying home too much to ask? Imagine if they were around in WW2 when men aged 18-45 were conscripted to fight overseas.... they would cry in their cornflakes saying "they took my freedom away"

[Andrew Walker]

The fact that Randy needed to explain that it’s been a War since Hamas won election is proof Jaxxx has no understanding of what has been going on over there and is an ignorant fool.

Randy you are probably right RE Iran not getting involved Let’s hope so anyway More importantly let’s hope there is some resolution before thousands or even tens of thousands of innocents are killed in Gaza.

[Thirteen]

Israel has given civilians a warning to head South. In the meantime Hamas has told them not to leave their homes. Hamas has no value on life. They actually want their civilians to die so they can drum up sympathy. Great tactic by Israel to warn the good people to go South. Now they can destroy the terrorists and all of their infrastructure.

[Thirteen]

That’s what scares me too. We do not need Iran involved in this!

Israel has the backing of every first world nation. Iran doesn’t want to face that.

[The Lip]

Iran already got involved when they helped arrange approve and fund the original act of terrorism in these recent atrocities.

[Andrew Walker]

Israel has given civilians a warning to head South. In the meantime Hamas has told them not to leave their homes. Hamas has no value on life. They actually want their civilians to die so they can drum up sympathy. Great tactic by Israel to warn the food people to go South. Now they can destroy the terrorists and all of their infrastructure.

Randy has already touched in these demands and what sane people with no skin or blood in this think of them. But a Genuine and non incendiary question Where are they expected to go or where do you expect them to go ?

Now this may be incendiary can you explain how on earth did Hamas breach Israel’s defence so easily How were they allowed to roam freely for hours on end I ask this as ex Israeli military are asking this themself Some even saying there own govt have sold the people out I can provide links to this