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  • Originally posted by Mickie Lane View Post
    You will never see it this way Jax but if the coalistion countries mainly America & Israel would stop invading the Middle Eastern countries & causing so much destruction then there wouldn't be all these displaced Arabs that need to get out.
    You need to do some research - the Arabs caused/created the conflicted when they rejected the two state solution - now they want the 2 state solution - if they would have agreed to it in 1948 all these wars and ongoing conflicts may never have occurred.

    These are Arab countries - Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen.

    Which ones have the US and Israel Invaded ?

    Arabs/Muslim Countries - Iran invasion of Iraq and Kuwait- Iraq invasion of Kuwait - Syrian War where Turkey, Iran and Russia are all participants

    Plus you had/have the Arab Islamic Terrorist Groups - PLO in Kuwait(supporting Saddam's invasion) /Jordan( attempt to overthrow the King of Jordan) /Lebanese Civil War/Gaza strip / Hezbollah in Lebanese Civil war and continual attacks on Israel / Houthi's in Yemen civil war /attacking merchant ships in the red sea - Iran although not Arab are a chief sponsor and backer of Islamic Terrorist groups

    Throw in ISIS/Al Qaeda /Taliban as well.

    Some Historical facts to chew over - Israel doesn't attack or need to defend themselves against Arab/Muslim countries/Islamic Terrorist groups that aren't attacking them.

    1948 - 1st Arab - Israeli War - Attack on and Invasion of Israel by seven Arab countries and assorted Arab Islamic fundamentalist Groups after the Arabs rejected the two state solution
    • Egypt
    • Jordan
    • Iraq
    • Syria
    • Lebanon
    • Saudi Arabia
    • Yemen
    • Holy War
    • All Palestine Protectorate
    • Arab Liberation Army
    Israel Victory
    Jordan annexed the Westbank
    Egypt annexed occupation of the Gaza Strip


    1967 ( 6 Day War) - Dual invasion of Israel by Egypt and Syria - Egypt acted on false Soviet Union reports that Israel was amassing troops on the Syrian Border for an invasion and would do the same for an invasion of the Sinai and Egypt.
    • Egypt
    • Syria
    • Jordan
    • Iraq
    • Lebanon
    Israel Victory
    Took over the Golan Heights from Syria / Westbank from Jordan and the Gaza Strip and Sinai from Egypt
    Israel's pre-emptive strike all but destroyed Egyptian and Syrian Air forces and Airfields providing it with Air Superiority

    1973 ( Yom Kippur War)

    Another Surprise attack on Israel by the usual suspects including some new non Arab/Muslim one's in Cuba and North Korea
    • Egypt
    • Syria
    • Saudi Arabia
    • Algeria
    • Jordan
    • Iraq
    • Libya
    • Kuwait
    • Tunisia
    • Moroco
    • Cuba - 3000 troops
    • North Korea - 2 Squadrons of MiG's - around 50 planes
    Israel Victory

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    • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
      This one is a big'un for us domestically and certainly politically for the Albanese govt.

      What do you think about the relatively huge intake of Gazan residents into Australia since the 7th Oct massacre in Israel? Worse still, the fact that a some of them were approved in less than an hour, and most within 24 hours. Usually proper security checks would take much longer and be more appropriately rigorous.

      Pistol Pete and the Coalition hammered the Govt in Question Time last week on this, and Albanese and his lackeys refused to answer the direct questions. It was labelled Visas for Votes which appears to be the motivation to shore up their seats in western Sydney with large Muslim populations. But at what cost?

      Other countries have taken a few hundred or none in many cases. Yet we have taken nearly 3 fricken thousand!! The other Middle East countries have taken in....zero!

      And more than half of Gazans admit they support the 7th Oct massacre. And many celebrated in the street (similar to a few here).

      This seems incredible on face value, but it is sadly real. Do we really want more people who have been born and raised to hate Jews and western values in this country?

      The left wing ideologies are tanking here now, but surely our national security should be the main game in town?
      Have a look at the trouble in the UK and Europe since they started taking in radical islamic so-called refugees. It will happen here and the Greens and radical left will be cheering it on.

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      • Certainly wouldn't be buying any second hand pagers or walkie talkies from any Lebanese folk

        How did the pagers and walkie-talkies explode?

        A small amount of explosives were planted inside a new batch of 5,000 pagers ordered by Hezbollah for its members, according to a senior Lebanese security source who spoke to the Reuters news agency. Israel’s intelligence services were responsible, the source said.

        “The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code. It’s very hard to detect it through any means. Even with any device or scanner,” the source said.

        Another security source told Reuters that up to 3g of explosives had been hidden in the new pagers and had gone “undetected” by Hezbollah for months. The source said 3,000 of the pagers had exploded when a coded message was sent to them, simultaneously activating the explosives.

        An American official who spoke anonymously to the New York Times made similar claims, adding that the devices had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon. Explosive material was reportedly hidden in each pager next to the battery, along with a switch that could remotely detonate the device.


        https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ttack-happened

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        • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
          Certainly wouldn't be buying any second hand pagers or walkie talkies from any Lebanese folk

          How did the pagers and walkie-talkies explode?

          A small amount of explosives were planted inside a new batch of 5,000 pagers ordered by Hezbollah for its members, according to a senior Lebanese security source who spoke to the Reuters news agency. Israel’s intelligence services were responsible, the source said.

          “The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code. It’s very hard to detect it through any means. Even with any device or scanner,” the source said.

          Another security source told Reuters that up to 3g of explosives had been hidden in the new pagers and had gone “undetected” by Hezbollah for months. The source said 3,000 of the pagers had exploded when a coded message was sent to them, simultaneously activating the explosives.

          An American official who spoke anonymously to the New York Times made similar claims, adding that the devices had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon. Explosive material was reportedly hidden in each pager next to the battery, along with a switch that could remotely detonate the device.


          https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ttack-happened
          As horrible as this was and it is horrendous.How bloody genius was it . Dangerous world when someone can do this sort of thing

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          • Geez Penny Wong doesn't seem all that bad.

            ​​​​​​https://www.9news.com.au/national/au...6-c27a89054403

            Helping people in need is a good thing i would have thought. We should invoice Joe Biden for the $90 million worth of aid Australia has provided so far. Let him know that even the Pope questions one's standing as a Catholic if they supply weapons that could potentially be used against civilians.

            Thus far its 42,500 Palestine deaths, over 15,000 of them children. For most "psychic numbing." has kicked in, where individuals become desensitised to large-scale tragedies or death tolls......when numbers of deaths or suffering become too large, the brain struggles to emotionally process or empathise with the sheer scale, leading to a diminished emotional response. less compassion or urgency to act.

            We do have the ability to tune into Al Jazeera to see the unfiltered footage of what is happening in Gaza. Unfortunately the good people of Israel dont have that channel anymore, shut down by Netanyahu in May

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            • Those figures are Hamas ones and according to them there has been zero Hamas Terrorists Neutralised.

              Hamas's manifesto is to destroy Israel and Kill all Jewish People world wide. That is Genocide.

              No guarantee this money won't be syphoned off by Hamas as you do know Hamas officials are/were all Multi Billionaires - a few of them have been neutralised such as Haniyeh in Iran when in the shower with his Body Guard.

              Al Jazeera is a propaganda channel for Islamic Terrorist groups such as Hamas , Hezbollah and Houthi's all of course are backed by Iran

              Not many countries in the middle east would want any of these terrorist groups in their backyard for sure and certain - they remember the PLO days all too well

              If you speak to Lebanese folk who went through the 15 year Civil war - they have nothing but hatred for what the PLO and then Hezbollah did and has done to Lebanon - Lebanon has never recovered from that 15 Year Civil War.

              Both Hamas and Hezbollah have a penchant for using civilians as human shields - storing all types of weaponry in civilian areas and firing rockets /missiles from Civilian areas into Israel - and of course Hamas's tunnel network - refused to allow civilians to shelter in these as these for Hamas use only.

              Hamas officials even said the more casualties the better and how they would fight on until the last Pally - Very Goebbels total war like - fight on until the last German or until Germany is destroyed.

              Need to de-militarise Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis and de-nazify the civilians as they have been brainwashed by Hamas , Hezbollah and the Houthis on what basically is Nazi Germany like propaganda.

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              • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                Those figures are Hamas ones and according to them there has been zero Hamas Terrorists Neutralised.

                Hamas's manifesto is to destroy Israel and Kill all Jewish People world wide. That is Genocide.

                No guarantee this money won't be syphoned off by Hamas as you do know Hamas officials are/were all Multi Billionaires - a few of them have been neutralised such as Haniyeh in Iran when in the shower with his Body Guard.

                Al Jazeera is a propaganda channel for Islamic Terrorist groups such as Hamas , Hezbollah and Houthi's all of course are backed by Iran

                Not many countries in the middle east would want any of these terrorist groups in their backyard for sure and certain - they remember the PLO days all too well

                If you speak to Lebanese folk who went through the 15 year Civil war - they have nothing but hatred for what the PLO and then Hezbollah did and has done to Lebanon - Lebanon has never recovered from that 15 Year Civil War.

                Both Hamas and Hezbollah have a penchant for using civilians as human shields - storing all types of weaponry in civilian areas and firing rockets /missiles from Civilian areas into Israel - and of course Hamas's tunnel network - refused to allow civilians to shelter in these as these for Hamas use only.

                Hamas officials even said the more casualties the better and how they would fight on until the last Pally - Very Goebbels total war like - fight on until the last German or until Germany is destroyed.

                Need to de-militarise Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis and de-nazify the civilians as they have been brainwashed by Hamas , Hezbollah and the Houthis on what basically is Nazi Germany like propaganda.
                OK lets take Netanyahu's figures- in July he said the figure was 30,000- of which 16,000 were militant and 14,000 civilians. Is that more acceptable?

                Netanyahou failed to keep Israel safe. He failed to respond when those attacks were happening. This is his way of turning his shortcomings into a positive. Added to the fact that he needs to win the next election to avoid a few serious corruption charges.....and you got him in one.
                After his initial failures above his job was to get the hostages back and safe to their families. Thus far out of 115 hostages that have been saved only 8 have been by the IDF- the rest by negotiation. Out of the 8 all of them and their families has urged the government to stop the war and bring home the remaining hostages through negotiation. It has fallen on deaf ears, as have the mass street protests in Israel.

                You can attempt to "neutralise" Hamas, Hezbollah all you like.... but every civilian you kill or displace you better kill any surviving member of thats civilian family, neighbours, communities, friends- especially if that survivor is of children age, because what you have done is create a massive fertile breeding ground for future terrorists. Dont think they wont have money and resources , the so called "friendly to the west" countries Saudi Arabai, Qatar, Jordan and co. are all watching it unfold on their doorstep.

                In the end not only is the actions of the Netanyahu government illegal but its making the Israel and the world a much more unsafe place for their citizens. Theres going to be retribution and its going to be ongoing.

                Geez Sal your views on Al Jazeera ....please. If you dont want to see the raw footage of what is happening everyday then thats fair enough. Al Jazeera doesn't have much of a filter and it can be extremely confronting.....but its reality. I don't know what the answer is, but fighting violence with violence creates more violence- always

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                • lolz

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                  • Israel have taken out Hezbollah Leader Hassan Nasrallah and a bunch of other Senior Hezbollah Commanders in a Air Strike - Now for Hamas Leader Yayah Sinwar
                    Hamas former leader Haniyeh and Hezbollah former leader Nasrallah can meet up again -In Hell - both neutralised



                    https://www.9news.com.au/world/hezbo...4-114dde171b09

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                    • A Lebanese friend who I trust has told me his (Christian) family's residential area is currently being bombed. It's a known Christian area and there is no logical reason to believe that it's connected with Hezbollah.

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                      • Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                        A Lebanese friend who I trust has told me his (Christian) family's residential area is currently being bombed. It's a known Christian area and there is no logical reason to believe that it's connected with Hezbollah.
                        Hezbollah are there for sure as Israel Intelligence have been following Hezbollah for years and know all their locations and where they reside and hide weaponry. Best for your friend and family to leave that area.

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                        • Interesting discussion and interesting new discoveries...

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/arabs/comme...spotted_on_an/

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                          • Originally posted by Bowie79 View Post
                            Interesting discussion and interesting new discoveries...

                            https://www.reddit.com/r/arabs/comme...spotted_on_an/
                            That is a Pally News Network and to be taken with a grain of salt - They are affiliated with Hamas after all - Got a bit of air play on X as did photoshopped pics of so called US/British troops supposedly fighting with the Israeli forces - US/UK Flag below the Israeli one on their uniforms.

                            Back in the old days it was Israel and Judea - The Philistines who no longer exist are not Palestinians which is a made up name by the Romans - renamed Judea Syrian Palaestina after stomping out the second Judean insurrection again Rome. - The Ben Hur movie is loosely based on that

                            Arafat was Egyptian - The Pally Flag is a knock off of the Jordanian Flag - the seven pointed star was removed on the Pally knock off



                            Last edited by King Salvo; 10-04-2024, 06:47 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by ism22 View Post
                              A Lebanese friend who I trust has told me his (Christian) family's residential area is currently being bombed. It's a known Christian area and there is no logical reason to believe that it's connected with Hezbollah.
                              A known Christian area which would make it a good area for the terrorists to operate from. We all know the terrorists infiltrate their own civilians as a way of hiding. They place no value on human life.

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                              • Sounds like Israel have already killed the new Hezbollah leader before he even had time to take up the post. Israel is way too smart and well equipped for these amateur terrorist organisations.

                                Did you read about the head of the Iranian intelligence service. He’s an Israeli spy!

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