The tory bullcr@p thread

[mightyrooster]

Oh dear...I warned you about this. Just let people think you fool, don't confirm it. I say that as bro in the RWB.

"Whom" is the object of the verb. "Who" is the subject as in "Who fcuked whom?". I said "whom we're dealing with" - in other words We do the dealing to the object of the sentence, "whom". They are the object. The dealing is done to them. The easy way to decide which to use is to substitute - if you can use "he" or "she", the word is "who" and if "him " or "her" it's "whom". Substituting, in the case of what I wrote, one wouldn't say "he we are dealing with", it would be "him". You must have been away the day that the class learned the difference.

See? This is why I won't argue with you. Your News Ltd "journalists" would hardly know the distinction, the Tele being written for a reading age of 10.4. The blokes on Sky came through the same system.

As for the "facts" I won't respond to, there are none, it's all rabid opinion. I know that you subscribe to News Ltd's alternative facts but:

* Albanese didn't release any criminals, if there are any, the High Court did. The Court ruled it is unconstitutional to detain refugees interminably. That is now the L-A-W!

* Albo didn't let in a flood of immigrants. The Immigration policy is bi-partisan. If anything Johnny Howard ramped it up to dampen wage growth. But whatever, we depend on migration for growth and revenue. MR can explain.

* Albo didn't/doesn't raise interest rates, nor do the Tories, the RBA which is independent of Government, does. I doubt that Sky is covering the current debate about whether or not that should continue. Certainly the Libs stacked the Board with business reps rather than independent experts.

You know I vowed not to respond because, usually, I will not engage mugs. I was good to you, I gave you sage advice, but you're an emotional chap and combined with that Latin inclination to believe the first opinion he hears I'm not sure that we have heard the last of you.

I could indeed explain the wonderful economic benefits of immigration but I really don’t want to get involved in your little stoush with Carlos. It’s far more entertaining just reading along.

[Random Rooster]

You said my comment was 100% fact free. I asked you to point out the lies/errors, but you failed miserably. You didn't even try.

For someone who tries to give off the appearance of being my 'better', you could at least educate yourself in matters of grammar.

It's not 'whom we're dealing with', it's 'who we're dealing with'.

Alternatively, you could have said 'with whom we are dealing'.

Get an education you imbecile.

Welcome to Sunday School with Randy Rooster!

When to use "whom" or "who" ? I'll make it simple. If you can replace the word (being either who or whom) with "he" or "she" then that's when you use the word "who"

For instance " ....... always masturbates" You can say "he always masturbates" or "she always masturbates" so you should use " who always masturbates"

Therefore " whom we are dealing with" is correct.....you can't say "he we are dealing with" or "she we are dealing with" , so "who" cannot be used

Many people get it wrong but personally i think if it sounds right then it doesn't matter

*These principles don't apply to AC DC guitarist Angus Young when he wrote the Who Made Who!

[Rooster1908]

Welcome to Sunday School with Randy Rooster!

When to use "whom" or "who" ? I'll make it simple. If you can replace the word (being either who or whom) with "he" or "she" then that's when you use the word "who"

For instance " ....... always masturbates" You can say "he always masturbates" or "she always masturbates" so you should use " who always masturbates"

Therefore " whom we are dealing with" is correct.....you can't say "he we are dealing with" or "she we are dealing with" , so "who" cannot be used

Many people get it wrong but personally i think if it sounds right then it doesn't matter

*These principles don't apply to AC DC guitarist Angus Young when he wrote the Who Made Who!

It always masturbates . Gender natural remember

[Carlos Parra]

OK, I'll take the lesson but I maintain that it is better to say 'with whom we are dealing' rather than 'whom we are dealing with'.

As you say Random, it really doesn't matter.

[Random Rooster]

It always masturbates . Gender natural remember

they/them always masturbates???

[ism22]

Surely they take a rest occasionally?

[Paddo Colt 61]

Okay but what about the alternative "facts"? Young people people on this site might be attracted to the bullying "debating" style and they should be made aware that Carlo was wrong on all counts. Murdoch plays the same game - divert, obfuscate, confuse - always with the intent of getting just 3%-5% of nongs to change their vote.

[Carlos Parra]

Okay but what about the alternative "facts"? Young people people on this site might be attracted to the bullying "debating" style and they should be made aware that Carlo was wrong on all counts. Murdoch plays the same game - divert, obfuscate, confuse - always with the intent of getting just 3%-5% of nongs to change their vote.

I wasn't wrong on all counts and you're still yet to provide the proof that I was.

I told you that your "whom we're dealing with here" sentence was grammatically clunky and that TROVE didn't like it. Earlier I provided you with a better alternative - I did not say it was WRONG.

Technically, what you typed was not incorrect, so happy masturbating Padded Cell 61.

Just consider yourself lucky that I didn't pull you up for ending a sentence with a preposition and an adverb.

Sentence structure, logic and research are clearly not your strong points.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Say what....No evidence for my factual corrections? Google them. And you weren't right about anything.

You're diverting - let the who/whom go ffs. It's irrelevant.

[Carlos Parra]

Say what....No evidence for my factual corrections? Google them. And you weren't right about anything.

You're diverting - let the who/whom go ffs. It's irrelevant.

You're irrelevant Padded Cell 61.

You claimed my entire post was 100% incorrect. I've been man enough to cede ground regarding your poor use of grammar, but you still haven't provided evidence for everything else that's supposed to be factually incorrect.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Give us a break Mr. Tele. You don't think the High Court ordered the release of those detainees? You don't think that the RBA sets interest rates? You don't think that Immigration is bi-partisan? I don't need evidence for all of that - it's fact! Please, somebody wise him up.

And give up the grammar smoke screen as well ffs - you're wrong about that too. Wrong headed about everything really.

[mightyrooster]

The RBA controls monetary policy by determining interest rates, regardless of which political party is in Government. It does this in order to keep inflation within a targeted range of about 2-3% over the economic cycle. This range ensures that the economy remains stable and doesn't overheat or go into recession.

The main reason Australia's inflation rate, and global rate's have been so high over the past 18 months is supply based - shortages in supply due to the Covid Pandemic, Vlad's invasion of Ukraine (see the myriad of other threads for this enthralling discussion), and natural disasters destroying crops etc.

Even if ScoMo was re-elected, the RBA would have still been on a mission to increase interest rates, as inflation is too high and needs to be brought under control. Increasing interest rates takes the heat out of the economy. That's a very simple and basic explanation.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Merci Mighty one but don't think that you are yet in my good books, I'm still intending to take you to task on that "complicated" situation in Gaza. There's not too much that's complicated about raining ordinance on civilians on the pretext of weeding out Hamas. Recently Israel claimed Hamas were hiding in ambulances. Yeah, right.

[Rooster1908]

The RBA controls monetary policy by determining interest rates, regardless of which political party is in Government. It does this in order to keep inflation within a targeted range of about 2-3% over the economic cycle. This range ensures that the economy remains stable and doesn't overheat or go into recession.

The main reason Australia's inflation rate, and global rate's have been so high over the past 18 months is supply based - shortages in supply due to the Covid Pandemic, Vlad's invasion of Ukraine (see the myriad of other threads for this enthralling discussion), and natural disasters destroying crops etc.

Even if ScoMo was re-elected, the RBA would have still been on a mission to increase interest rates, as inflation is too high and needs to be brought under control. Increasing interest rates takes the heat out of the economy. That's a very simple and basic explanation.

Special operation MR special operation

[rcptn]

The RBA controls monetary policy by determining interest rates, regardless of which political party is in Government. It does this in order to keep inflation within a targeted range of about 2-3% over the economic cycle. This range ensures that the economy remains stable and doesn't overheat or go into recession.

The main reason Australia's inflation rate, and global rate's have been so high over the past 18 months is supply based - shortages in supply due to the Covid Pandemic, Vlad's invasion of Ukraine (see the myriad of other threads for this enthralling discussion), and natural disasters destroying crops etc.

Even if ScoMo was re-elected, the RBA would have still been on a mission to increase interest rates, as inflation is too high and needs to be brought under control. Increasing interest rates takes the heat out of the economy. That's a very simple and basic explanation.

The Governments fiscal policy, energy policy, climate policy, agricultural policy, determination to get FWA to put wages up by 5% and the backing of the extension of the war in Ukraine after a peace deal had been brokered between both sides in April 2022 a few months after it had started all have had a significant impact on inflation which has led too the RBA having to lift rates anybody who says otherwise has rocks in their head.