Australia Day Bondi beach dawn reflection ceremony

[rcptn]

I've had too much limoncello after Sinner won the tennis and lack the mental something or other to read all this cr@p. However dead farking set!!!!!

If it REALLY triggers you THAT much knowing that indigenous Australians feel a special connection to their ancestral heartland (much like my feelings towards Italy) and that two men can enjoy sharing the same pillow then get a life.

We get sooooo many of these farking 'I AM BEING SHUT DOWN BY WOKE PEOPLE!!! I JUST SAY IT AS IT IS!!! PEOPLE ARE DISCRIMINATING AGAINSY ME FOR HAVING RIGHT-WING VIEWS' threads. Guess what? Nobody's discriminating. Get a life and stop complaining. It gets boring...

Yes its called repressive tolerance

[Random Rooster]

What 'original landowners'? Theres no one still around from 1788 that I'm aware of. And even if there was the definition of owner would be very tenuous. They were just 'here'. I don't have claim to own land in Ireland simply because of blood lineage. Same deal.

Mate, your doin your head in with this obsession with hundreds of years ago living. Its time to move on and really celebrate the incredible achievements and benefits bestowed upon us all, indig included. Glass half full...have a sip. Put the real definition into 'progressive' ...not constantly agonising over ideological assessments of history long gone.

Wow "they were just here". Great way to dehumanise a race- like they were just here, like the dingos,wombats and the gum trees

However its a great statement that Putin and Xi can use for "expansion"- you'd want to hope Australia isn't on the list of the latter!! I can just hear it now "Well its ok because they were just here in the way and hey, in 100 years or so none of them will be around anyway"

Times are changing Jack.You going to boycott the NRL because of their statement today in relation to Australia Day being a 'painful and sorrowful day' for Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander people? Maybe not watch the cricket because of Pat Cummins or Steve Smith views? They took the time to ask Indigenous team mate Scott Boland on how he feels about the day.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Wow "they were just here". Great way to dehumanise a race- like they were just here, like the dingos,wombats and the gum trees

However its a great statement that Putin and Xi can use for "expansion"- you'd want to hope Australia isn't on the list of the latter!! I can just hear it now "Well its ok because they were just here in the way and hey, in 100 years or so none of them will be around anyway"

Times are changing Jack.You going to boycott the NRL because of their statement today in relation to Australia Day being a 'painful and sorrowful day' for Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander people? Maybe not watch the cricket because of Pat Cummins or Steve Smith views? They took the time to ask Indigenous team mate Scott Boland on how he feels about the day.

You are spinning your own narrative here. I'm merely stating we are all equal. No dehumanising...we are all "just here". No special rights or privileges. It's all good...stress down.

[Random Rooster]

You are spinning your own narrative here. I'm merely stating we are all equal. No dehumanising...we are all "just here". No special rights or privileges. It's all good...stress down.

Jack im not stressed. It always good having a chat with you

[rcptn]

Yes its called repressive tolerance

For some reason it will not link to the page I want. Go to the search function at new discourse and search for repressive tolerance and listen to how right wing actions even thought is not to be tolerated in society that the intolerant left are trying too create.

[Rooster1908]

I didn’t feel the need for such a denial. But seeing you have asked I shall be so kind and answer your question Yes I am categorically denying all of your scurrilous allegations.

You do know it is possible to hold conversation watch the cricket cook the meat drink water and even post on here all at the same time. Some call it multi tasking and I’m sure a former highly successful retired business man such as yourself might also possess such talents. But then again seeing you forgot about mobile phones with your other ridiculous post perhaps not.

Andy your constant state of attack on the many subjects that you continually disagree with the general populations view is a credit to you. Not.
You have extreme views on so many subjects and continue to tell me and others how we should feel about things that seeing that you have no Aboriginal blood in you have absolutely nothing to do with you .
Growing up in a small country town in the 60s and 70s we never copped the racism that is around now and for me I blame the woke like you for telling us what we need. I was given every opportunity to succeed no matter my race and succeed I did . As before I don't believe in the word we are indigenous, I believe in the word we are Australian.

[eddie]

You know Eddie I really like the word ennui

Yes, good word but bad experience.

[eddie]

Thanks Eddie. There’s not much happening here at the moment either to be honest. The son popped in to visit which was nice, and the cricket’s pretty dull at the moment. I used to spend the day with the JJJ hottest 100 on in the background. I still do this with my daughter as she’s made it ‘our tradition’ even though I barely know a single song these days. But we’re doing that tomorrow because they moved it from Australia Day a few years ago. Hope you’ve been able to fix up most of the damage you had from those horrible storms?

Cool mr, but the quote from the glazier was too dear being as my house is high set. Rather than use the insurance I taped plastic sheets over the windows instead of glass. Might claim the whole lot if the roof leaks again.

[bondi.boy]

I'm not calling you or anyone else here a racist. That link i sent quotes stats and info that has government sourced references. I should have found a link that didn't have "anti-racism" in the title because its grabbed your attention and you went with that.

I'm not pushing any agenda-let alone a dangerous one. All i'm saying is if the majority of the Indigenous find the date offensive then why can't we move it. That's all!!! Nothing more and nothing sinister!!

Incidentally a quick check on James Lindsay and you'll find he was busted for putting forward fake journals that got pulled ..... lots of nonsense jargon but hey "publish or perish" as they say

Change the date, there'll still be protest marches on the new date.
...for 'invasion', 'mourning', 'sovereignty', 'stop deaths in custody', 'always was-always will be -Aboriginal land' etc.

[horrie hastings]

Good stuff Horrie.

Unfortunately they set the video to private now, it was a great version which showed scenes of how diverse our great country is.

[Andrew Walker]

Andy your constant state of attack on the many subjects that you continually disagree with the general populations view is a credit to you. Not.
You have extreme views on so many subjects and continue to tell me and others how we should feel about things that seeing that you have no Aboriginal blood in you have absolutely nothing to do with you .
Growing up in a small country town in the 60s and 70s we never copped the racism that is around now and for me I blame the woke like you for telling us what we need. I was given every opportunity to succeed no matter my race and succeed I did . As before I don't believe in the word we are indigenous, I believe in the word we are Australian.

OH 08 I haven’t told anyone what to think Ive told people what I think You can think whatever you like as can the next person I have no issue with you or anyone else thinking the opposite to me. This was clearly defined in the Uluṟu Statement Of The Heart Thread and a few others going back.


Where I think you are getting confused is that you consider me explaining the reasoning for my thoughts and opinions and me enjoying the wit and repartee that comes along with that when someone holds opposite views as me telling you or others how to think. Which is plain wrong

PS You contradict yourself beautifully by telling me I have no right to express my opinion as you think it is me telling you what to do because I have no Aboriginal blood in me, but then go along and say you don’t consider yourself indigenous. So by your last sentence it appears you define yourself as Aboriginal/Indigenous when it suits but consider yourself Australian and not Aboriginal/ Indigenous if it suits as well. Well played 08 a classic bet each way or semantics in its purest form.

Finally whilst the date stays as is I will continue to celebrate it on this day But I do think it will change in the next twenty years. In essence you are the one here telling me what to think on this topic or more precisely not to think as we have no right to do so due to blood lineage

[Rooster1908]

I didn’t feel the need for such a denial. But seeing you have asked I shall be so kind and answer your question Yes I am categorically denying all of your scurrilous allegations.

You do know it is possible to hold conversation watch the cricket cook the meat drink water and even post on here all at the same time. Some call it multi tasking and I’m sure a former highly successful retired business man such as yourself might also possess such talents. But then again seeing you forgot about mobile phones with your other ridiculous post perhaps not.

And I must say for such a conspiracy theorist having a mobile phone is a shock .Spying on you and all

[Andrew Walker]

And I must say for such a conspiracy theorist having a mobile phone is a shock .Spying on you and all

I’ve nothing to hide so it’s not an issue ( doesn’t make it right ) if those that do so want to track anything I do

But stop changing the subject I’m now concerned with you being Australian when you want and wanting your Aboriginality indegenous background not to be relative ( for want of a better way to put it ) but feeling only those who are Aboriginal and Indigenous by blood have the right to comment and have opinions on matters relating to all Australia #141

[Rooster1908]

I’ve nothing to hide so it’s not an issue ( doesn’t make it right ) if those that do so want to track anything I do

But stop changing the subject I’m now concerned with you being Australian when you want and wanting your Aboriginality indegenous background not to be relative ( for want of a better way to put it ) but feeling only those who are Aboriginal and Indigenous by blood have the right to comment and have opinions on matters relating to all Australia #141

Well you do seem to pretty good at hiding any common sense and a personality .But also you are the one who started this by stating that Aboriginal people are offended or hurt by Australia celebrating on the 26th as they do or should think of it as invasion day . Apparently yesterday 50k people were offended enough to protest whilst the other 27 m or so of us Aboriginal , Asian , Italian , Jew , Ukraine, Russian and Anglo Saxon enjoyed our great day . The loud minority always attract the most attention .Much like you seeking it .

[Andrew Walker]

Well you do seem to pretty good at hiding any common sense and a personality .But also you are the one who started this by stating that Aboriginal people are offended or hurt by Australia celebrating on the 26th as they do or should think of it as invasion day . Apparently yesterday 50k people were offended enough to protest whilst the other 27 m or so of us Aboriginal , Asian , Italian , Jew , Ukraine, Russian and Anglo Saxon enjoyed our great day . The loud minority always attract the most attention .Much like you seeking it .

No now you are just making more demonstrably false allegations trying to run away from answering my question in #148 and 146

I have never used offended or hurt in any post in this thread I’ve also never used the term invasion day throughout this thread