The French election thread

[ism22]

An interesting situation here. The far-right thought they'd won it and then a bunch of left-wing parties formed the largest block (with centrists... though I'd call them right-wing... being the second largest block).

Interesting that the centrists seem likely to do a deal with the left rather than the far-right in order to form government.

Either way... sound like another rejection of the far right which old mate (who's usually extremely vocal about politics when he sniffs a conservative victory) is gonna go quiet about.

[Andrew Walker]

The right are up in arms about this over on Twitter or as they call it now X The claim is Macron got many of the far left to withdraw which somehow got them over the line I don’t know much about the situation only what I’ve read this morning but if true this isn’t really how a democracy should work.

Not surprisingly this sites court jester is ferociously beating his dick over the result thinking some here will be triggered by it and it is some sort of victory for his fragile ego So much so he felt the need to start a thread on it.

Perhaps some of this sites far rights aficionados like Jaxxxx and Bondi Boy can give us some more detail. No not a good idea these two generally only quote Ray Hadley and on matters closer to home so this I feel may be out of their scope

Now the situation in a little more detail appears that there is no majority government Macron has actually run second The winning party The New Popular Front is predicted to win 170-190 seeats need Macron who has won in the region of 158 and Macron needs them

In essence France will have a PM who does not have a majority vote and finished second Democracy working at its finest

https://theconversation.com/french-s...-likely-234094

I will add another article that explains the situation in some more depth

https://apnews.com/article/france-el...8f35b93b6c5dcc

[ism22]

Not surprisingly this sites court jester is ferociously beating his dick over the result thinking some here will be triggered by it and it is some sort of victory for his fragile ego So much so he felt the need to start a thread on it.

Glad you're enjoying my thread, bruh (and already spreading conspiracy theories that the far-right were robbed by the Illuminati).

[Andrew Walker]

Glad you're enjoying my thread, bruh (and already spreading conspiracy theories that the far-right were robbed by the Illuminati).

It’s truly a fascinating situation. No conspiracy theory. I’m quoting facts on how this got over the line. They’ve openly admitted they’ve done deals to stop the far right being able to form a govt by withdrawing candidates It’s almost like a coup d’état or more a self coup. What I have said was I’m not sure this is how a democracy is supposed to work I’ve appended the link for your perusal You might just learn something

https://apnews.com/article/france-el...8f35b93b6c5dcc

[Random Rooster]

It’s truly a fascinating situation. No conspiracy theory. I’m quoting facts on how this got over the line. They’ve openly admitted they’ve done deals to stop the far right being able to form a govt by withdrawing candidates It’s almost like a coup d’état or more a self coup. What I have said was I’m not sure this is how a democracy is supposed to work I’ve appended the link for your perusal You might just learn something

https://apnews.com/article/france-el...8f35b93b6c5dcc

Welcome to politics Andy! It doesn't matter what country or which way a political party leans....they will all put their personal interests (and interests of their financial backers) in front of their countries best interests.

You're sign off signature is exactly right!! Countries run by c...ts!!

[Andrew Walker]

Welcome to politics Andy! It doesn't matter what country or which way a political party leans....they will all put their personal interests (and interests of their financial backers) in front of their countries best interests.

Your sign off signature is exactly right!! Countries run by c...ts!!

100 percent on the money and refreshing to see someone have such an understanding of the situation.

[zac]

i don't see any problem with the morality of what happened in france. the voters got the chance to elect as many le pen party members as they wanted. no problem with the 'strategic' withdrawals from the second round - people have a right to not run for office.
swings and roundabouts - i wouldn't have had a problem if the non-labour parties in the uk had organised themselves so that every electorate had a choice between a labour candidate and only one non-labour candidate.
the issue is the voting system - if you have a preferential voting system this sort of thing doesn't happen. i think the fairest system is what we have in nsw where you don't have to give a preference if you don't want to. it's an absurd waste of money that the french have 2 days of voting - that problem would be solved if they adopted some form of preferential voting

[Jacks Fur Coat]

It's a middle finger to democracy when the candidate/party who gets the most votes doesn't assume office.

May as well pick em out of a hat.

[Random Rooster]

It's a middle finger to democracy when the candidate/party who gets the most votes doesn't assume office.

May as well pick em out of a hat.

Oh yeah- a bit like in 2016 when Hilary Clinton got 48.2% of the votes compared to Trump who got 46.1%. Hilary actually got 2.9 million more votes than Donald. Of course the Electoral college voting system meant Trump won the election and he was happy to accept.

Yet when he lost the Electoral college vote in 2020 and the popular vote by 7 million to Biden he wasn't happy with that. He then went on a rampage pressuring Republican leaders in the swing states to " find votes", then attempts to get a "alternative state electors" appointed to not sign off on the result, pressured his own vice president to not certify the election (which he couldn't do even if he wanted to)....and then instigated January 6.

So when you talk about giving the "middle finger to Democracy" then go no further than D.Trump

[Andrew Walker]

Oh yeah- a bit like in 2016 when Hilary Clinton got 48.2% of the votes compared to Trump who got 46.1%. Hilary actually got 2.9 million more votes than Donald. Of course the Electoral college voting system meant Trump won the election and he was happy to accept.

Yet when he lost the Electoral college vote in 2020 and the popular vote by 7 million to Biden he wasn't happy with that. He then went on a rampage pressuring Republican leaders in the swing states to " find votes", then attempts to get a "alternative state electors" appointed to not sign off on the result, pressured his own vice president to not certify the election (which he couldn't do even if he wanted to)....and then instigated January 6.

So when you talk about giving the "middle finger to Democracy" then go no further than D.Trump

A polite reminder Randy This is the French election thread.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Oh yeah- a bit like in 2016 when Hilary Clinton got 48.2% of the votes compared to Trump who got 46.1%. Hilary actually got 2.9 million more votes than Donald. Of course the Electoral college voting system meant Trump won the election and he was happy to accept.

Yet when he lost the Electoral college vote in 2020 and the popular vote by 7 million to Biden he wasn't happy with that. He then went on a rampage pressuring Republican leaders in the swing states to " find votes", then attempts to get a "alternative state electors" appointed to not sign off on the result, pressured his own vice president to not certify the election (which he couldn't do even if he wanted to)....and then instigated January 6.

So when you talk about giving the "middle finger to Democracy" then go no further than D.Trump

Haha...Mr consistency. Say something nice about a conservative, you know you want to.

[zac]

Haha...Mr consistency. Say something nice about a conservative, you know you want to.

but jfc, the rn only got 37% of the vote. for them to provide the pm on the strength of that would be decidedly un-democratic if they're unable to find common ground with other parties

[Andrew Walker]

but jfc, the rn only got 37% of the vote. for them to provide the pm on the strength of that would be decidedly un-democratic if they're unable to find common ground with other parties

I will agree here to an extent but must add if you took the time to read the links I posted Le Pen only wanted to rule via a majority Knowing this led to the catalyst for the sneaky deals done by the left

[zac]

I will agree here to an extent but must add if you took the time to read the links I posted Le Pen only wanted to rule via a majority Knowing this led to the catalyst for the sneaky deals done by the left

i don't think the deals done were sneaky - not much different from the libs and nats not running v each other when there's a sitting member (although australia's preferential voting does make things different). like i said - i don't think it would have been sneaky if reform uk and the tories had done a deal so that only one of them would run a candidate v labour. the social democrats and labour should have done deals in the uk during the thatcher years. what's the point of a candidate with no chance of wining running in a seat and splitting the left or the right vote?
glad we have preferential voting in aus