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  • #31
    I generally hate all politicians. I like Trump. I believe in RFK.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post
      I honestly don’t know much about Harris. I just can’t stand Trump and I really didn’t think much of SleepyJoe either. I’ll be interested to see how she goes but at least she’s under 70 years old and hopefully now we can actually focus on the issues rather than endless stories about Biden’s state of mind.
      Trump is bragging how it was his conservative appointed judges that got the 50 year old law "Roe vs Wade" reversed. He even totally bullshits that its what " nearly every legal scholar wanted"

      Now state governments can outlaw abortions- telling a woman that she isnt in charge of her own body even if the pregnancy was a result of rape, incest or a danger to the mother if going the full term.

      A 78 year old male, convicted of rape and sexual assault, boasting about bringing in that law-wow. How would any self respecting female vote for him???

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

        Wow Jack thats an impressive list!

        Strong conservative governments have strong conservative values; Individual freedom, limited government, fiscal responsibility, free markets, human dignity and rule of law. All these values are important in creating a healthy balance in the governing of a country. Republicans like Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, George H W Bush. Unlucky for Mitt Romney he came across Obama in the election because he would have made a great president.

        All of the above, and many more respected Republicans of the past, would be disgusted with this MAGA cult mob. Even George W Bush has never and never will endorse Trump.....and thats because Trump isn't a Republican- he upholds none of their values. Everyday he tells you who he is by his words and actions but his supporters dont care.

        I could give you a list of facts, backed up with credible evidence, of every way he has discredited conservative values. It doesn't matter to his cult followers, they really believe that this corrupt New York property developer really cares about them. Meh good luck to them, good luck to America

        Incidentally and closer to home, i think it would be a great move for the Liberals to find a way of bringing the astute Josh Frydenberg back into the fold to lead them into the next election. One of the better politicians from both sides over the last few years, he was a victim of Scomo's lame last year in office. Just my thought
        There...I knew you had it in you. Good post though. It is cathartic to find something to praise about the other team, if dispensed genuinely of course.

        My next challenge is to elicit a positive comment about the Dons contribution to public life. A litmus test
        #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

          Trump is bragging how it was his conservative appointed judges that got the 50 year old law "Roe vs Wade" reversed. He even totally bullshits that its what " nearly every legal scholar wanted"

          Now state governments can outlaw abortions- telling a woman that she isnt in charge of her own body even if the pregnancy was a result of rape, incest or a danger to the mother if going the full term.

          A 78 year old male, convicted of rape and sexual assault, boasting about bringing in that law-wow. How would any self respecting female vote for him???
          RR, you have explained precisely why I cannot stand him. He is actually worse than a politician IMO. He is an egomaniac who has no respect for the people he claims to serve, especially women. Is it any wonder he admires Putin when they are so similar in personality.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dr. Voodoo Man

            He is only a felon because the crooked Deomcrats and the deep state tried to end him with nonsense charges. I watched him play golf with Bryson De Chambeu today. Trump is a very, very good golfer. He is a winner and a true man of the people. He is our best last hope.
            You dont think he had anything to do with Jan 6 insurrection? You dont think he told Mike Pence not to certify the results of the 2020 election? You dont think that phone call to the Governor of Georgia asking to to "find 11,000 votes" was election interference? What about the "alternate certifiers" that were appointed decertify the Georgian results? Nothing in that? You dont think he had classified documents at Mar A Lago despite being given the chance to hand them over to the FBI numerous times?

            I can go on and on but whats the point? You come back with a Qanon conspiracy theory about a deep state and he has a great golf game. Its not the Republican party anymore, its a cult.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

              RR, you have explained precisely why I cannot stand him. He is actually worse than a politician IMO. He is an egomaniac who has no respect for the people he claims to serve, especially women. Is it any wonder he admires Putin when they are so similar in personality.
              My daughter said the following statement was trending on social media and i thought you might like it......

              ​​​​​​“I’m not voting for Kamala Harris because she is a woman, I’m voting for Kamala Harris because I AM a woman”

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                RR, you have explained precisely why I cannot stand him. He is actually worse than a politician IMO. He is an egomaniac who has no respect for the people he claims to serve, especially women. Is it any wonder he admires Putin when they are so similar in personality.
                That's exactly my issue with him. In short...

                - If he were actually a free market conservative then why did he go and slap tariffs on everybody? Answer... because he's an egotistic protectionist who spits the dummy every time things don't go his way (even when he hasn't even articulated which way he wants to go in).

                - As a human being he's not a social conservative as he's actively admitted to cheating on his wife and has spent a LOT of time arguing that the courts are corrupt because they called his cover-up a crime. He's also encouraged people to grab women by the genitals (another conservative/Christian value I suppose?). A social conservative would resign out of shame and would not dare bring the pillars of democracy (including election outcomes and the judiciary) into disrepute.

                - Personal freedoms? Again... he's celebrated government bans on abortion (demonstrating he thinks government has a role in preventing it) and recreational drugs (noting I'm anti-drugs but again... he's not against governments regulating against what some 'Murricans would consider civil liberties).

                - The Russia thing is just weird!!! I'll leave a lengthy discussion of this for another day but in short I think it shows Trump's ego driven as he'll take help from ANYBODY, including a guy who thinks he's a blithering idiot who's gonna aid him by destabilising western democracies. The two aren't friends. Trump's being played big time for zero gain other than Russian, state-sponsored antics that have thus far benefited his campaign as they've involved spreading FUD about the Democrats!

                If he were a valid conservative as opposed to an ego-driven protectionist then I wouldn't oppose him in a big way. He's simply not though.
                Last edited by ism22; 07-25-2024, 12:56 AM.

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                • #38
                  Kamala today referred to as the OG Hawk Tua girl. Nice. Kamala has serious skeletons in the closet. The democrats could have chosen RFK and they would have won. Too bad he can't be bought.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dr. Voodoo Man View Post
                    Kamala today referred to as the OG Hawk Tua girl. Nice. Kamala has serious skeletons in the closet. The democrats could have chosen RFK and they would have won. Too bad he can't be bought.
                    Why would they choose RFK They want a patsy in place
                    When you trust your television
                    what you get is what you got
                    Cause when they own the information
                    they can bend it all they want

                    John Mayer

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

                      My daughter said the following statement was trending on social media and i thought you might like it......

                      ​​​​​​“I’m not voting for Kamala Harris because she is a woman, I’m voting for Kamala Harris because I AM a woman”
                      My daughter probably hates Trump more than me. She’s on the ‘big’ socials too. I’m an old Gen Xer apparently that only uses Facebook, very occasionally Instagram.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ism22 View Post

                        That's exactly my issue with him. In short...

                        - If he were actually a free market conservative then why did he go and slap tariffs on everybody? Answer... because he's an egotistic protectionist who spits the dummy every time things don't go his way (even when he hasn't even articulated which way he wants to go in).

                        - As a human being he's not a social conservative as he's actively admitted to cheating on his wife and has spent a LOT of time arguing that the courts are corrupt because they called his cover-up a crime. He's also encouraged people to grab women by the genitals (another conservative/Christian value I suppose?). A social conservative would resign out of shame and would not dare bring the pillars of democracy (including election outcomes and the judiciary) into disrepute.

                        - Personal freedoms? Again... he's celebrated government bans on abortion (demonstrating he thinks government has a role in preventing it) and recreational drugs (noting I'm anti-drugs but again... he's not against governments regulating against what some 'Murricans would consider civil liberties).

                        - The Russia thing is just weird!!! I'll leave a lengthy discussion of this for another day but in short I think it shows Trump's ego driven as he'll take help from ANYBODY, including a guy who thinks he's a blithering idiot who's gonna aid him by destabilising western democracies. The two aren't friends. Trump's being played big time for zero gain other than Russian, state-sponsored antics that have thus far benefited his campaign as they've involved spreading FUD about the Democrats!

                        If he were a valid conservative as opposed to an ego-driven protectionist then I wouldn't oppose him in a big way. He's simply not though.
                        Lol, that’s your ‘in short’. But yeah his ‘policies’ are a bit contradictory and self serving. He’s not really a republican but in the US you can’t get anywhere unless you’re red or blue.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Andrew Walker

                          I thought the same about the in short bit but was reluctant to respond as I’m sure someone would have accused me of bullying and belittling poor Izzy whilst he is going through a tough time I don’t expect this someone to apply the same standards to you though
                          Andy, I was not bullying Izzy. My response was actually admiring his uniqueness. I actually like that he is different and doesn’t care what people think. Good on him. It’s why I said lol. It was a bit of banter. His idea of short and mine are different, but that doesn’t mean mine is superior. Calling him a freak or whatever because of that however is bullying. It’s like me having fun at myself. I’m a perfectionist and at times have OCD tendencies that makes me look silly but i know what I am and can laugh at myself despite it.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                            Andy, I was not bullying Izzy. My response was actually admiring his uniqueness. I actually like that he is different and doesn’t care what people think. Good on him. It’s why I said lol. It was a bit of banter. His idea of short and mine are different, but that doesn’t mean mine is superior. Calling him a freak or whatever because of that however is bullying. It’s like me having fun at myself. I’m a perfectionist and at times have OCD tendencies that makes me look silly but i know what I am and can laugh at myself despite it.
                            I never said you were What I said was I thought of responding in the same manner but thought had I done so I’d have been accused of bullying Izzy by a certain someone.

                            I completely understand how you can admire someone’s unique qualities that can set them apart from others to the point where many just don’t get them
                            When you trust your television
                            what you get is what you got
                            Cause when they own the information
                            they can bend it all they want

                            John Mayer

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                              I never said you were What I said was I thought of responding in the same manner but thought had I done so I’d have been accused of bullying Izzy by a certain someone.

                              I completely understand how you can admire someone’s unique qualities that can set them apart from others to the point where many just don’t get them
                              Ok point taken. Thanks for clarifying.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Andrew Walker View Post

                                Why would they choose RFK They want a patsy in place
                                Yes exactly. I think they are sacrificing Kamala and exploiting her short term.

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