All things Trump and Harris

[Carlos Parra]

Hahahahah yeah sure you knew that

My Grandfather died a day before JFK was assassinated.

So yes, I do know it.

Carry on, blissfully ignoring the rest of the post. In the meantime, I'll interpret your incomplete response as a sign that you're a Hamas sympathiser.

[caz]

very close election and could go either way. harris has had a slight boost in the latest polls

[Random Rooster]

My Grandfather died a day before JFK was assassinated.

So yes, I do know it.

Carry on, blissfully ignoring the rest of the post. n the meantime, I'll interpret your incomplete response as a sign that you're a Hamas sympathiser.

You didn't know the Kennedys were Democrats, you came up with an excuse of a 2 year old when it was pointed out to you.....so i didn't read any further. Interpret whatever you like about me

[Carlos Parra]

very close election and could go either way. harris has had a slight boost in the latest polls

Depends on your source.

The ONLY way DemonRats will be able to steal another election is if they can convince Americans that this one is razor close.

[Carlos Parra]

You didn't know the Kennedys were Democrats, you came up with an excuse of a 2 year old when it was pointed out to you.....so i didn't read any further. Interpret whatever you like about me

Just like a typical lefty, you're impossible to argue with once you've convinced your tiny mind of a fact that is 100% fallacious.

I'd suggest you go back and re-read what I typed and then maybe you'll figure it out. If you feel better thinking I don't know my stuff - then good for you.

Meanwhile, the DemonRats stink so bad, that a Kennedy is endorsing Trump LOL!. Think about that, princess.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Randy Rooter - He dead!!!

[Random Rooster]

Oh dear.......

https://www.9news.com.au/national/jo...f-fe7ac4633760

This is what sets us apart from the Americans. The grand poobah of the conservative Australian Liberal party telling it as it is. Of course he doesn't like Harris' economic policies- and thats fair enough because he is a true conservative.....but he isn't delusional either

[ism22]

Oh dear.......

https://www.9news.com.au/national/jo...f-fe7ac4633760

This is what sets us apart from the Americans. The grand poobah of the conservative Australian Liberal party telling it as it is. Of course he doesn't like Harris' economic policies- and thats fair enough because he is a true conservative.....but he isn't delusional either

Agreed mate. I'm no John Howard supporter but I think part of the USA's current challenge is that its current crop of right wingers aren't actually 'conservatives'. A lot will agree with 'conservatives' on big ticket economic/social positions of your typical 'conservative'.

IMO John McCain was the last 'conservative' that the US had and he didn't stand a chance for two reasons...

1. Obama was a charismatic, highly memorable president. He was a real trump card (no pun intended) for the Democrats who really couldn't lose.

2. He was a gentleman who didn't take cheap shots!!! For example when a supporter called Obama a muslim terrorist (while McCain was on stage in front of hall full of supporters) he famously cut them off and said 'no... no mam... he is not a terrorist and he's a good Christian and a gentleman... we just happen to disagree on politics!!!'

IMO that's president material right there. He was a decorated veteran, a gentleman and a principled conservative. Yet how did his life end? Trump supporters actively mocked/rubbished him, finally noting 'he'll be dead in a few months anyway so I don't give a shyte what he thinks'. Trump's not a gentleman or a statesman. He's rich, he's a good salesman and he's a ruthless opponent. However, he's a flat track bully who's egotistic and has no respect for democracy.

I agree with John Howard - he shoulda been ruled out once he failed to accept the people's vote. John Howard famously (and arrogantly) stated that 'the people have spoken!!!' when he won a majority over both houses. However to his credit he stood by that remark by accepting the result when he got the boot and as a lawyer / patriot / conservative he's consistently accepted the people's voice. Frankly if somebody can't accept the people's voice unless they agree with him then how are they fit to lead a country? That's where I will forever sit on the Daaanld.

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Side note - how's Howard's health these days? I know he always had a slight slur about his speech but it looks like he mighta had a stroke or something? Wishing him best health.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Oh dear.......

https://www.9news.com.au/national/jo...f-fe7ac4633760

This is what sets us apart from the Americans. The grand poobah of the conservative Australian Liberal party telling it as it is. Of course he doesn't like Harris' economic policies- and thats fair enough because he is a true conservative.....but he isn't delusional either

And also what sets a true conservative apart from a hard core leftie. I have great respect for Mr. Howard and regard him as one of our greatest PMs. But It's probably healthy to speak your mind and have an opinion that doesn't just blindly follow the party line. Although I don't agree with him on this point, lefties should take note.

[Random Rooster]

Agreed mate. I'm no John Howard supporter but I think part of the USA's current challenge is that its current crop of right wingers aren't actually 'conservatives'. A lot will agree with 'conservatives' on big ticket economic/social positions of your typical 'conservative'.

IMO John McCain was the last 'conservative' that the US had and he didn't stand a chance for two reasons...

1. Obama was a charismatic, highly memorable president. He was a real trump card (no pun intended) for the Democrats who really couldn't lose.

2. He was a gentleman who didn't take cheap shots!!! For example when a supporter called Obama a muslim terrorist (while McCain was on stage in front of hall full of supporters) he famously cut them off and said 'no... no mam... he is not a terrorist and he's a good Christian and a gentleman... we just happen to disagree on politics!!!'

IMO that's president material right there. He was a decorated veteran, a gentleman and a principled conservative. Yet how did his life end? Trump supporters actively mocked/rubbished him, finally noting 'he'll be dead in a few months anyway so I don't give a shyte what he thinks'. Trump's not a gentleman or a statesman. He's rich, he's a good salesman and he's a ruthless opponent. However, he's a flat track bully who's egotistic and has no respect for democracy.

I agree with John Howard - he shoulda been ruled out once he failed to accept the people's vote. John Howard famously (and arrogantly) stated that 'the people have spoken!!!' when he won a majority over both houses. However to his credit he stood by that remark by accepting the result when he got the boot and as a lawyer / patriot / conservative he's consistently accepted the people's voice. Frankly if somebody can't accept the people's voice unless they agree with him then how are they fit to lead a country? That's where I will forever sit on the Daaanld.

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Side note - how's Howard's health these days? I know he always had a slight slur about his speech but it looks like he mighta had a stroke or something? Wishing him best health.

John McCain was a national hero who served his country with distinction. He would have made a great president but timing is everything and he ran into Obama.

John Howards legacy was having the balls to take swift action with his gun buy back scheme and tough gun control laws. As a direct benefit of his actions gun related violence and deaths almost immediately went down. It also shaped the mindset of Australians towards guns- we accept to own a gun is not impossible but there is strong laws governing and screening who owns guns and their purpose. My biggest criticism of him was following the US into the invasion of Iraq.

Back to the topic....check out this list, headed by Mike Pence, who lost his job because he followed the constitution


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ntial_campaign

[caz]

More than 2 minutes of Democrats explicitly calling for political violence against Donald Trump.

https://x.com/Motabhai012/status/183...fed77fda108743

no one can support a call for political violence or a statement of desire to commit political violence so half of the speakers in that clip got it wrong. (although there are more than a few speakers, including harris, who neither implicitly or explicitly calling for political violence v trump.) unfortunately that's the way politics is in the u.s. and it's on both sides. no doubt there are clips of republicans calling for political violence - remember the crowd on jan 6 saying they were going to hang a politician cos he didn't obey donald trump.
other examples are -
steve bannon, trump's chief strategist, was banned from twitter for calling for fauci to be beheaded.
joe digenova called for a security bloke who had been fired for failing to back up trump's claims about voter fraud to be hung drawn and quartered. (he later apologised)
lin wood, one of trump's lawyers, predicted that pence would be executed by firing squad.

the problem isn't on just one side of politics - the republicans can't pretend to be angels

[caz]

Depends on your source.

The ONLY way DemonRats will be able to steal another election is if they can convince Americans that this one is razor close.

this is a worrying comment, carlos. you're super sceptical about opinion polls but super credulous about trump's claims about voter fraud. you don't have any evidence for either

[mightyrooster]

Aah Americans. Have come across quite a few in our current travels. They are so loud and often lacking a filter. It’s interesting to observe.

[mightyrooster]

Oh dear.......

https://www.9news.com.au/national/jo...f-fe7ac4633760

This is what sets us apart from the Americans. The grand poobah of the conservative Australian Liberal party telling it as it is. Of course he doesn't like Harris' economic policies- and thats fair enough because he is a true conservative.....but he isn't delusional either

Howard makes a lot of sense. I was a supporter of Howard during the first half of his prime ministership. I turned on him quite a bit later on with the children overboard lies and work choices. But he’s usually very reasoned and thoughtful with his commentary.

[007]

Aah Americans. Have come across quite a few in our current travels. They are so loud and often lacking a filter. It’s interesting to observe.

Looks like nothing's changed. Experienced this in Scotland (and in LA - Santa Monica specifically) back in '86 where they just liked to be heard and seen. Very loud (Ooh look at me, I'm shouting, and I know everything) FFS. And the term 'worthless nigger' was bandied around more often than I care to think about.

I'm also still waiting for Jacks Fur Coat to reply to my question #147 in this topic. Come on Jack - surely you can back it up?