Alan Jones

[mightyrooster]

In the late 80s he got arrested for having a bat in a well known gay public toilet but got off (no pun intended) in court by saying he had been standing at the toilet sink with his trousers unzipped and had not been doing anything untoward. Instead, he had been washing his hands in the hope that vigorous motion and the flowing tap water would help him overcome difficulty urinating,

One of his best! In the end spanking the monkey in an empty urinal that was renowned for gay sex didn't deserve getting arrested for.....but it was the 80s and in England

Yeah that was different. There’s nothing criminal about being gay and laws in the 80s were archaic. But being a sexual predator or pest and using your power to terrify young men with unwanted advances is.

[Random Rooster]

Yeah that was different. There’s nothing criminal about being gay and laws in the 80s were archaic. But being a sexual predator or pest and using your power to terrify young men with unwanted advances is.

Agree

[Mickie Lane]

Jones has had this coming for a very long time.

100%
Jones was in with that other pedo solicitor John Marsden.

[Random Rooster]

Media identity claims Alan Jones tried to touch his genitals and kiss him, but defends broadcaster

November 22, 2024

Prominent broadcaster and podcaster Josh Szeps has defended radio star Alan Jones despite revealing that the 83-year-old made repeated physical advances towards him as a young producer on his radio show, including trying to kiss him and touch his genitals.

In an episode of his Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps podcast, Szeps told listeners that Jones – who on Monday was arrested and charged with 26 offences against nine alleged victims after a top-secret police investigation – tried to “put his hand on my dick”, kiss him and rub his chest on several occasions while he worked as a junior producer on his radio show.

“It was clear that he had a crush on me, and he hit on me many times, and in that context, hitting on me meant making a physical move, not a verbal one. He tried to put his hand on my dick, he tried to kiss me, he tried to rub my chest, and I would just slap him off, and we would laugh, and we’d move on,” Szeps said.

Szeps is the first person since Jones’ arrest on Monday to publicly reveal an alleged encounter with the veteran radio star. However, Szeps – who is openly gay – said he did not consider himself a victim of sexual assault and understood Jones’ “inappropriate” advances as a way of flirting, calling the broadcaster “generous and passionate and kind”.

“He is a fiery, poetic, operatic whirlwind of a man, so in a weird way it just seemed to me kind of less strange that he would try to affirm our bond with a clumsy, physical pass than by doing what? Inviting me to tea with the prime minister? Taking me to an opening night and being sneered at by the cultural elite? Inviting me as his date to a luncheon with a bunch of homophobic old business titans? No. Every time he was rebuffed, which was every time because I had no interest in that, he backed off and usually laughed it off,” Szeps said.


“It wasn’t for me anything sinister, it wasn’t for me anything threatening. It was playful, it was excessively romantic.”

Jones’ lawyers have been contacted for comment about Szeps’ claims.

Throughout the podcast episode, Szeps repeatedly defended Jones, declaring him innocent until proven guilty and questioning the severity of Jones’ alleged offending compared with disgraced British entertainer Jimmy Savile and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein.
“Unless the police have something that has never before been reported on and has never been found in the years of investigative journalism that was done into Alan Jones, none of the allegations back then had to do with him raping somebody, him forcing himself on somebody even after they said no, him locking a door and then having his way with somebody to my knowledge … to my knowledge, there’s none of that,” Szeps claimed.

Jones has been charged with 11 counts of aggravated indecent assault, 11 counts of assault with an act of indecency, two counts of sexually touching another person without their consent, and two counts of common assault.

Police said Jones knew some of his alleged victims personally, some professionally, and in some circumstances the alleged abuse took place the first time they met Jones. The youngest of the alleged victims was aged 17 at the time of the alleged offences. Jones’ lawyers said on Monday their client would fight the charges laid by Strike Force Bonnefin officers.

Szeps also used his podcast episode to suggest that Jones’ upbringing in conservative rural Queensland may have contributed to his views of relationships, while reiterating the allegations against Jones were not yet proven.

“We ought to temper our righteous fury against the [alleged] perpetrators of crimes, with a recognition that they are in part products of their environment,” Szeps said. “One of the reasons why they behave [the way] they do is because they come from a particular place in a particular time.”

Szeps said Jones had promoted him to a senior producer position “implausibly fast” and that he “played the cards” he was dealt during his working relationship with Jones.

“The casting couch is a casting couch for a reason,” he said. “If you have looks and youth on your side, then you play those cards. If you don’t have youth on your side, but you do have status and influence and money, you play those cards.”

Szeps did not name the station he was working for when the alleged incidents occurred. Jones defected from 2UE to 2GB in 2001.

But he did recall one conversation during his first day in the role: “On my first day, actually, one of his most senior producers looked at me and said ‘oh he’s going to like you’, and he did.”

Szeps lashed the “morally self-righteous” treatment of the “Alan Joneses of the world”, who he said had been demonised for centuries and “persecuted with the full force of the law” when they “express their love or their affection or their, just wanting to get their rocks off, when they express urges in ways that don’t conform to the polite society that they spent their whole life being excluded from”.

“And now we have the balls to pontificate about what an evil man he is for allegedly not expressing his sexuality respectfully and conventionally according to the proper norms according to the club that we spent his entire life excluding him from,” Szeps said.

But Szeps added that if the allegations against Jones were proven, the offending would have been “wrong and illegal”.

[007]

And Alan Jones is a massive supporter/admirer of Trump. Says it all really. Karma has once again come to the fore. Rot in hell you ****'n low life.

[ism22]

Not rape related but I know a guy who worked for AJ (son of an ex NRL player who got the media gig through connections).

He had no dramas with him until the final day. Apparently when he gave notice of his resignation, AJ completely lost it at him, which was disappointing to the guy as he was gonna say a sincere thank you for all the opportunities...etc.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

And Alan Jones is a massive supporter/admirer of Trump. Says it all really. Karma has once again come to the fore. Rot in hell you ****'n low life.

I see...so by extension you are saying that the millions of Donald J Trump supporters across the globe may all have...wandering hands?

[007]

I see...so by extension you are saying that the millions of Donald J Trump supporters across the globe may all have...wandering hands?

How am I saying that? Back your comment up for once in your lifetime. I won't hold my breath waiting for a legitimate response as you rarely (if ever) respond to a direct question.

But I will ask you this for the last time. Who were the three blind mice and why were they are disgusting? Your words, not mine. If you can't back your comments up, keep your stupid pathetic childish comments to yourself.

[mightyrooster]

Media identity claims Alan Jones tried to touch his genitals and kiss him, but defends broadcaster

November 22, 2024

Prominent broadcaster and podcaster Josh Szeps has defended radio star Alan Jones despite revealing that the 83-year-old made repeated physical advances towards him as a young producer on his radio show, including trying to kiss him and touch his genitals.

In an episode of his Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps podcast, Szeps told listeners that Jones – who on Monday was arrested and charged with 26 offences against nine alleged victims after a top-secret police investigation – tried to “put his hand on my dick”, kiss him and rub his chest on several occasions while he worked as a junior producer on his radio show.

“It was clear that he had a crush on me, and he hit on me many times, and in that context, hitting on me meant making a physical move, not a verbal one. He tried to put his hand on my dick, he tried to kiss me, he tried to rub my chest, and I would just slap him off, and we would laugh, and we’d move on,” Szeps said.

Szeps is the first person since Jones’ arrest on Monday to publicly reveal an alleged encounter with the veteran radio star. However, Szeps – who is openly gay – said he did not consider himself a victim of sexual assault and understood Jones’ “inappropriate” advances as a way of flirting, calling the broadcaster “generous and passionate and kind”.

“He is a fiery, poetic, operatic whirlwind of a man, so in a weird way it just seemed to me kind of less strange that he would try to affirm our bond with a clumsy, physical pass than by doing what? Inviting me to tea with the prime minister? Taking me to an opening night and being sneered at by the cultural elite? Inviting me as his date to a luncheon with a bunch of homophobic old business titans? No. Every time he was rebuffed, which was every time because I had no interest in that, he backed off and usually laughed it off,” Szeps said.


“It wasn’t for me anything sinister, it wasn’t for me anything threatening. It was playful, it was excessively romantic.”

Jones’ lawyers have been contacted for comment about Szeps’ claims.

Throughout the podcast episode, Szeps repeatedly defended Jones, declaring him innocent until proven guilty and questioning the severity of Jones’ alleged offending compared with disgraced British entertainer Jimmy Savile and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein.
“Unless the police have something that has never before been reported on and has never been found in the years of investigative journalism that was done into Alan Jones, none of the allegations back then had to do with him raping somebody, him forcing himself on somebody even after they said no, him locking a door and then having his way with somebody to my knowledge … to my knowledge, there’s none of that,” Szeps claimed.

Jones has been charged with 11 counts of aggravated indecent assault, 11 counts of assault with an act of indecency, two counts of sexually touching another person without their consent, and two counts of common assault.

Police said Jones knew some of his alleged victims personally, some professionally, and in some circumstances the alleged abuse took place the first time they met Jones. The youngest of the alleged victims was aged 17 at the time of the alleged offences. Jones’ lawyers said on Monday their client would fight the charges laid by Strike Force Bonnefin officers.

Szeps also used his podcast episode to suggest that Jones’ upbringing in conservative rural Queensland may have contributed to his views of relationships, while reiterating the allegations against Jones were not yet proven.

“We ought to temper our righteous fury against the [alleged] perpetrators of crimes, with a recognition that they are in part products of their environment,” Szeps said. “One of the reasons why they behave [the way] they do is because they come from a particular place in a particular time.”

Szeps said Jones had promoted him to a senior producer position “implausibly fast” and that he “played the cards” he was dealt during his working relationship with Jones.

“The casting couch is a casting couch for a reason,” he said. “If you have looks and youth on your side, then you play those cards. If you don’t have youth on your side, but you do have status and influence and money, you play those cards.”

Szeps did not name the station he was working for when the alleged incidents occurred. Jones defected from 2UE to 2GB in 2001.

But he did recall one conversation during his first day in the role: “On my first day, actually, one of his most senior producers looked at me and said ‘oh he’s going to like you’, and he did.”

Szeps lashed the “morally self-righteous” treatment of the “Alan Joneses of the world”, who he said had been demonised for centuries and “persecuted with the full force of the law” when they “express their love or their affection or their, just wanting to get their rocks off, when they express urges in ways that don’t conform to the polite society that they spent their whole life being excluded from”.

“And now we have the balls to pontificate about what an evil man he is for allegedly not expressing his sexuality respectfully and conventionally according to the proper norms according to the club that we spent his entire life excluding him from,” Szeps said.

But Szeps added that if the allegations against Jones were proven, the offending would have been “wrong and illegal”.

I wonder if straight guys view his hands on flirting style as very romantic?

[Jacks Fur Coat]

How am I saying that? Back your comment up for once in your lifetime. I won't hold my breath waiting for a legitimate response as you rarely (if ever) respond to a direct question.

But I will ask you this for the last time. Who were the three blind mice and why were they are disgusting? Your words, not mine. If you can't back your comments up, keep your stupid pathetic childish comments to yourself.

Thank goodness you are asking it for the last time. I am puzzled how a fully grown toilet trained adult can agonise over a comment like blind mice? Seriously man...

You mentioned it "says it all" ...I guess my thought is what indeed does it say?

[Andrew Walker]

I see...so by extension you are saying that the millions of Donald J Trump supporters across the globe may all have...wandering hands?

Bravo Jaxxx I almost responded to that with the same thing Whilst this poster did not categorically say what you asked the inference was well and truly drawn

[Random Rooster]

And Alan Jones is a massive supporter/admirer of Trump. Says it all really. Karma has once again come to the fore. Rot in hell you ****'n low life.

It's pretty obvious you were referring to Trump's history as a sex offender (see below). Don't know why anyone would think you were saying all of Trumps followers were also sex offenders??

• 1970s-1990s Incidents
  • Jessica Leeds (1970s): Accused Trump of groping her on a plane, comparing him to an "octopus."
  • Ivana Trump (1989): Alleged in a divorce deposition that Trump raped her but later clarified she didn't mean it "criminally."
  • Kristin Anderson (1990s): Accused Trump of reaching under her skirt in a nightclub.
  • Stacey Williams (1993): Alleged groping in Trump Tower, facilitated by Jeffrey Epstein.
  • Jill Harth (1993): Accused Trump of attempted rape at Mar-a-Lago.
• 1996-1997 Beauty Pageant Misconduct
  • Lisa Boyne (1996): Claimed Trump forced women to parade while he commented on their bodies.
  • Miss Teen USA Contestants (1997): Accused Trump of entering dressing rooms unannounced.
  • Temple Taggart (1997): Alleged inappropriate kissing at a pageant.
  • Amy Dorris (1997): Accused Trump of forcible kissing and groping at the U.S. Open.
• Other 1990s Allegations
  • Karena Virginia (1998): Alleged groping outside the U.S. Open.
  • Cathy Heller (1990s): Accused Trump of forcibly kissing her at a brunch.
• 2000s Incidents
  • Karen Johnson (2000): Claimed Trump kissed and groped her at a party.
  • Various Miss USA Contestants: Alleged inappropriate backstage behavior.
  • Natasha Stoynoff (2005): Accused Trump of assault while covering a story at Mar-a-Lago.
  • Summer Zervos (2007): Claimed Trump kissed and groped her on two occasions.
• Other Allegations (2000s-2010s)
  • Jessica Drake (2006): Claimed Trump grabbed and kissed her and offered money to meet him privately.
  • Cassandra Searles (2013): Alleged groping and inappropriate advances during Miss USA.
  • Alva Johnson (2016): Accused Trump of unwanted kissing during his campaign.
• E. Jean Carroll (1996): Accused Trump of rape in a department store dressing room. A jury found him liable for sexual abuse and defamation in 2023.
• Pattern of Behavior: Trump has also publicly acknowledged inappropriate conduct. In a 2005 interview, he admitted to entering dressing rooms unannounced at pageants.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

I know it's not the thread to celebrate the magnificent victory of the great Donald J Trump. But the above cut n paste ( probably from the Turnbull Times) interestingly uses prefacing terms like 'alleged, claimed or accused' to these scandalous attributions. They know that the truth is likely being compromised against the great man so have been careful with their language. All the trumped up charges against him have been dropped now I think. Make truth your friend, not the enemy.

[007]

I know it's not the thread to celebrate the magnificent victory of the great Donald J Trump. But the above cut n paste ( probably from the Turnbull Times) interestingly uses prefacing terms like 'alleged, claimed or accused' to these scandalous attributions. They know that the truth is likely being compromised against the great man so have been careful with their language. All the trumped up charges against him have been dropped now I think. Make truth your friend, not the enemy.

Well done, you win.

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[Red.]

We live in strange times Mr Bond. You can't let the truth get in the way of a good story.