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  • Time until America's great again. Assuming he doesn't have a heart attack from all the Adderall.

    PS - wasn't Russia's invasion of Ukraine gonna magically end within 24 hours of Trump entering the office? The guy's a farce... glad Albo's patient enough to ignore his BS and strong enough to make it clear that his tariff threats are just dumb.

    Confirm I'm voting no to Temu Trump's voice of division. The last thing we need is a bent cop whose only redeeming feature is that News Ltd have blessed him as their new muppet (purely because he's gonna be easy for them to control).
    Last edited by ism22; 02-11-2025, 08:46 AM.

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    • Oh my they say that nothing good ever happens after midnight and they would be correct

      The Fake Lefties on here don't fool anyone as they chase the Capitalist dream even harder than anyone else ( no wealth distribution for them) - Capitalist Paddo, for example, who came across as some sort of retired red ragger working poor chalkie with scarcely a cent to their name but in reality was someone that is a Capitalist who is loaded and currently building a mega mansion retreat in a very wealthy elite area.

      The only thing worse than a daft lefty is a fake one

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      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
        Jack the tradie Aussie voter. "Aw..Jeez...not more political stuff. Things that I don't really understand because I don't have an atom of interest and always vote Lib like mum and dad did. Anyway, the blokes on Sky and 9 Entertainment sum it all up nicely for me - Albo and his Government are "do nothins".

        It's a common sentiment and readily believed if the MS media doesn't do its job and inform. I'm no longer an ALP voter, the US puppet role doesn't appeal to me but then again, as Trump is demonstrating atm, the US can be brutal with uncooperative friends like Colombia so Albo is understandably cautious given the commitment of the Media/Libs pro American alliance.

        Not being a supporter aside, it's only fair that we look at the work of the ALP Government during this term and reflect on the shibboleth "Do nothing Government". We might also reflect on the former Government "achievements" by comparison.

        A "do nothing" list should be a short one so here goes:

        * Budget Surpluses. Libs 0 - ALP 2 out of 2 after inheriting a huge structural deficit.

        * Up to13% pay rise for Aged care health workers.

        * increased Medicare safety net threshold. And the establishment of emergency bulk billing Medicare clinics.

        * Reputedly the strongest multi National tax evasion measures in the world. This is a biggie, acclaimed by international agencies. You should research it, you won't find anything in the msm.

        * Criminalization of wage underpayment, now designated Theft.

        * The largest minimum wage increase in over a decade.

        *
        Cheaper prescription medicine, paid domestic violence leave.

        * Legislation to make Banks and social media responsible for scams which rob people of thousands of dollars.

        * Laws protecting gig economy slave workers .

        * Reducing inflation from 6% to less than 3% .

        * Finishing the NBN with fibre to the premises after the Libs' copper disaster. Remember "We'll do it better and cheaper" - Yeah right.

        * Stabilisation of our trade relations with China our biggest trade partner. The Libs wanted to destroy it just to curry favour with the Empire.

        * Achieving the release of Julian Assange (the bravest Australian). Assange's lawyer credited Albanese's "statesmanship" as key to the release.

        * A drive towards renewables after years of Lib inaction. We are now on track for a 42% reduction in emissions by 2030 and 80% renewables by 2030 which Dutton is pledged to stop.

        It would appear, then, that the Government has been doing quite a bit. The Libs have opposed all of this reform all along so as to create the impression of ''do nothing" though, despite best efforts, the opposition to things that benefit citizens didn't work ultimately (thanks to the Greens) but what the Hell, the right wing msm just keeps up the line. Working in tandem with the Libs, our media has only scantily covered these policy achievements. Capitalists don't like much that doesn't favour business.
        Not fixing crime . Not fixing hospital waiting times . Not fixing hospital ramping. Not fixing education and lack of teachers . Not fixing police shortage Not fixing lack of housing . Not addressing high immigration. Not bringing down price of electricity.

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        • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
          The Fake Lefties on here don't fool anyone as they chase the Capitalist dream even harder than anyone else ( no wealth distribution for them)
          Lefties are people who see a need for governments to prioritise spending money on things like healthcare, education, welfare and the like. This can be done effectively without subscribing to a Robin Hood ideology.

          For example (as somebody who's been homeless & suffered mental health issues while being flat broke), the solution wasn't for me to be given a free house and some rich guy's money. However, I value the social support structures that supported me including:

          - Free (or heavily subsidised) hospital and medical cover, including for my physical injuries and subsequent psychiatric treatment.

          - A concessional loan so that I could re-train as a lawyer in order to find a way forward after identifying that I couldn't teach anymore.

          - Free nature parks and infrastructure (e.g. bike tracks and bush trails) where I was able to exercise and get myself back into shape.

          - A focus on clean energy and reducing waste/pollution so that the places where I run are safe and healthy to use. You really do notice this when you go for a run around Vietnam. Climate change is real, as is pollution. I value living in a relatively clean city.

          - Bodily & religious autonomy is also a belief of mine. This includes governments not interfering with people's lives on the basis of Christian ideologies by banning abortion and transgender sports participation (or kids transitioning early so that they don't develop male features).

          - A first home buyers grant and stamp duty concession when buying my first home.

          These are just simple examples of pre-existing left-wing policies that come from fiscal policy as opposed to radical changes to revenue. As noted I'm not for taxation that would remove incentives to work and save money. However I'm all for social policies that mean we're not like the USA... where the poor have no medicare, take out massive commercial loans for 'college' and abortions/trans rights have gone to shyte.

          One can believe in all of the above without wanting us to become a communist dictatorship where all wealth is controlled by the government and divvied out evenly so that there's no classes. This is purely ideological cr@p and no country follows this sorta ideology.

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          • Originally posted by Vasco View Post

            This is a great post.

            Unfortunately, the drongos that watch Sky News, Channels 7 & 9 and read the Telegraph are fed the opposite.

            The only hope we have is that the age group of 18-30 don't engage in the sewer news. Their votes will be critical in the election.
            Not sure Capitalist Paddo would like you calling him a drongo as he is a devotee of the media you mention plus msn and considers himself as the "smartest person in the room".

            Capitalist Paddo is a contradiction as we all know.
            Last edited by King Salvo; 02-11-2025, 09:54 AM.

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            • Originally posted by ism22 View Post

              Lefties are people who see a need for governments to prioritise spending money on things like healthcare, education, welfare and the like. This can be done effectively without subscribing to a Robin Hood ideology.

              For example (as somebody who's been homeless & suffered mental health issues while being flat broke), the solution wasn't for me to be given a free house and some rich guy's money. However, I value the social support structures that supported me including:

              - Free (or heavily subsidised) hospital and medical cover, including for my physical injuries and subsequent psychiatric treatment.

              - A concessional loan so that I could re-train as a lawyer in order to find a way forward after identifying that I couldn't teach anymore.

              - Free nature parks and infrastructure (e.g. bike tracks and bush trails) where I was able to exercise and get myself back into shape.

              - A focus on clean energy and reducing waste/pollution so that the places where I run are safe and healthy to use. You really do notice this when you go for a run around Vietnam. Climate change is real, as is pollution. I value living in a relatively clean city.

              - Bodily & religious autonomy is also a belief of mine. This includes governments not interfering with people's lives on the basis of Christian ideologies by banning abortion and transgender sports participation (or kids transitioning early so that they don't develop male features).

              - A first home buyers grant and stamp duty concession when buying my first home.

              These are just simple examples of pre-existing left-wing policies that come from fiscal policy as opposed to radical changes to revenue. As noted I'm not for taxation that would remove incentives to work and save money. However I'm all for social policies that mean we're not like the USA... where the poor have no medicare, take out massive commercial loans for 'college' and abortions/trans rights have gone to shyte.

              One can believe in all of the above without wanting us to become a communist dictatorship where all wealth is controlled by the government and divvied out evenly so that there's no classes. This is purely ideological cr@p and no country follows this sorta ideology.
              Well according to your first paragraph I'm a leftie

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              • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post
                Oh my they say that nothing good ever happens after midnight and they would be correct

                The Fake Lefties on here don't fool anyone as they chase the Capitalist dream even harder than anyone else ( no wealth distribution for them) - Capitalist Paddo, for example, who came across as some sort of retired red ragger working poor chalkie with scarcely a cent to their name but in reality was someone that is a Capitalist who is loaded and currently building a mega mansion retreat in a very wealthy elite area.

                The only thing worse than a daft lefty is a fake one
                Not as hard as the fake cousin, Sal, that's for sure. He has no peer living as he does in vermin infested slums and eating cat food. The first dollar he ever earned framed on the mantle a constant reminder of the real purpose in life. Not for him the fecklessness of society at large, he has but one ambition and that is to join those exceptions that disprove the generalisation that housing is unaffordable. At times he foresees himself as the nay sayer in a Tory political ad of the future a la Jacinta Price, the mums and dads with their share portfolios and investment houses frightened of Socialism, Retirees with a million plus in Super who are doing it tough even with refunds for tax not paid, the factory worker who has voted progressive all his life but must draw the line this time around.

                Fake is everywhere and Trump has legitimised it. The story re the North Koreans in Ukraine is fake, no western journalist has met one. The story emanated from Ukraine Security services. and the CIA. Standard US disinformation the mugs keep believing - "Fool me once....".

                The Caravan at Dural is beat up. We've heard nothing apart from the allegation that the explosives found were to be used to blow up synagogues. Again our security agencies are involved. They wouldn't play along with fake news that causes fear - remember Mohammed Haneef, the muslim spy disguised as a skilled migrant.

                I will not indulge Sal further. His inane wrecking approach is ridiculous, boring and time wasting.

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                • Whoa...lefties are losin it!

                  The Prahran and Werribee by-elections have delivered swings away from Labor and the dying Greens. Perhaps the Andrews legacy and also the Greens (esp) hostility towards the Jewish communities have factored in.

                  With Vic being our "wokest" state, do you think this has alarm bells ringing for our left wing parties?
                  #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                  • Sky certainly thinks so Jax but it's always predicting the death of the Greens.

                    The right wing media has also seemingly done the job on the Victorian ALP government which was/is a competent one. Sheeple say that they don't trust media, especially Murdoch media, but it just keeps pluggin' away and research shows that if misinformation is repeated enough it becomes fact in the minds of the general population ignorant as they are re politics in general. Jaxie a case in point - NFI.

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                    • Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                      Not fixing crime . Not fixing hospital waiting times . Not fixing hospital ramping. Not fixing education and lack of teachers . Not fixing police shortage Not fixing lack of housing . Not addressing high immigration. Not bringing down price of electricity.
                      Every "failing" is a State responsibility apart from immigration. It is a Federal Election coming up Sal there's a difference though you and those who agree with you would hardly be aware of one.

                      "Well they should be doin' sumfin' about it..." I hear you say. No they shouldn't, the Constitution lists Commonwealth powers and any unasked Federal involvement usually goes to the High Court unless previously negotiated. Facts remain important Sal.

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                      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

                        Not as hard as the fake cousin, Sal, that's for sure. He has no peer living as he does in vermin infested slums and eating cat food. The first dollar he ever earned framed on the mantle a constant reminder of the real purpose in life. Not for him the fecklessness of society at large, he has but one ambition and that is to join those exceptions that disprove the generalisation that housing is unaffordable. At times he foresees himself as the nay sayer in a Tory political ad of the future a la Jacinta Price, the mums and dads with their share portfolios and investment houses frightened of Socialism, Retirees with a million plus in Super who are doing it tough even with refunds for tax not paid, the factory worker who has voted progressive all his life but must draw the line this time around.

                        Fake is everywhere and Trump has legitimised it. The story re the North Koreans in Ukraine is fake, no western journalist has met one. The story emanated from Ukraine Security services. and the CIA. Standard US disinformation the mugs keep believing - "Fool me once....".

                        The Caravan at Dural is beat up. We've heard nothing apart from the allegation that the explosives found were to be used to blow up synagogues. Again our security agencies are involved. They wouldn't play along with fake news that causes fear - remember Mohammed Haneef, the muslim spy disguised as a skilled migrant.

                        I will not indulge Sal further. His inane wrecking approach is ridiculous, boring and time wasting.
                        No use trying to fight it, Capitalist Paddo, just give in and fully embrace Capitalism. You will feel better for it and about yourself.

                        Your Putin quickly got over it (Commo/Socialism) and has fully embraced Capitalism and has accumulated some 200 billion USD worth of Assets.

                        The North Koreans in Ukraine is fact - plenty of combat footage on YouTube that confirms it although you don't believe the facts about Mao ( Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution - up to 80 million deaths) and Stalin's Gulag Archipelago(/Purges/deportations etc ( up to 9 Million Deaths) -In your mind this never happened either.

                        North Korean Troops in Kursk Targeted by Attack Drones | WSJ News



                        Ukrainian soldiers on capturing North Korean POW


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                        • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post

                          Every "failing" is a State responsibility apart from immigration. It is a Federal Election coming up Sal there's a difference though you and those who agree with you would hardly be aware of one.

                          "Well they should be doin' sumfin' about it..." I hear you say. No they shouldn't, the Constitution lists Commonwealth powers and any unasked Federal involvement usually goes to the High Court unless previously negotiated. Facts remain important Sal.
                          Yeah I do get that but it's still things that Labor or any other government for that matter is failing is at .Surely they can do sumfin about it

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                          • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                            Whoa...lefties are losin it!

                            The Prahran and Werribee by-elections have delivered swings away from Labor and the dying Greens. Perhaps the Andrews legacy and also the Greens (esp) hostility towards the Jewish communities have factored in.

                            With Vic being our "wokest" state, do you think this has alarm bells ringing for our left wing parties?
                            Yes, the Green Slime was turfed out of Prahran and hopefully, the All People's Party (Libs) can take Werribee from the party of confusion and envy (Laboring On).

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                            • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                              Whoa...lefties are losin it!

                              The Prahran and Werribee by-elections have delivered swings away from Labor and the dying Greens. Perhaps the Andrews legacy and also the Greens (esp) hostility towards the Jewish communities have factored in.

                              With Vic being our "wokest" state, do you think this has alarm bells ringing for our left wing parties?
                              It's sending alarm bells to both parties because in Werribee despite the 16.7% swing away from Labor on first-preference votes, the Liberal candidate received just a modest 3.7% increase.

                              In my household im the only one voting for a major party- the boys, daughter and missus will vote Independent, Greens and Teals respectively.

                              Im voting Libs because Trump called Albo " a very fine man "

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                              • Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post

                                Well according to your first paragraph I'm a leftie
                                Who you vote for may not necessarily match your ideology. I'm just saying what it means to be left-wing. Dutton's already told you what he thinks about the government subsidising healthcare. He believes it's a waste of money and should be canned...


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