The Coming Federal Election.

[King Salvo]

Comrade Paddo is a contradiction, banging on about the wealthy with his usual commo socialist claptrap, and then on another thread he's banging on about so-called slipshod tradies that are building his mansion retreat in the southern highlands paid for by taxpayers on the very generous pension/super fund he's in.

Reminds me of the Communist Party elite in the Soviet Union who never went short of anything, including luxurious holidays on the Black Sea in 6-star resorts.

The average Soviet citizen had to line up for even the basic necessities, which were in short supply and often ran out.

We all know what side of the fence Comrade Paddo is really on—may have to start calling him Capitalist Paddo.

[Andrew Walker]

No one could ever convince me to vote Dutton. But I have a feeling the goings on in the US will only help him and his supporters. In that regard I think Trump and the US election results and its impact on Australian voters and Dutton’s policies and electioneering style is a valid discussion topic for this thread.

OH MR !!!! Dutton is no Trump not even remotely close He’s nothing but a boofheaded ex copper

But granted I can see how his ilk may appeal to the likes of 08 and Jaxxx

[Paddo Colt 61]

No one could ever convince me to vote Dutton. But I have a feeling the goings on in the US will only help him and his supporters. In that regard I think Trump and the US election results and its impact on Australian voters and Dutton’s policies and electioneering style is a valid discussion topic for this thread.

I think that you're possibly right about that, we have no shortage of mugs in Oz but I don't think that there are enough tradies to swing it (Howard's Battlers - and did he ever thank them - take the cash and we won't ever check on ya). Surely, even with a limited attention span, people will remember Robo debt, The NBN, the China goading, the treatment of females, the 2014 budget, Sir Prince Philip, the No vote etc, etc.

Of course Murdoch will pull out all stops like he's done with the Jewish persecution thing that has the ALP shitting itself. Why? Only one in 5 Jews vote progressive and anyway the whole thing is a smokescreen to divert from the genocide in Gaza. Naturally people are outraged by the zionist atrocity. Dutton's high dudgeon on behalf of Israel should be another reason to punt him.

[Paddo Colt 61]

OH MR !!!! Dutton is no Trump not even remotely close He’s nothing but a boofheaded ex copper

But granted I can see how his ilk may appeal to the likes of 08 and Jaxxx

Well, he's a very canny ex copper worth a reputed $300m but, like Mr.T he's divisive piece of work. For the Libs divisiveness is sock in trade - you have the right to be a bigot.

[King Salvo]

Who is outraged - those that pretend to be "Free Palestine" but in reality support a proscribed Terrorist group in Hamas. When they say Zionists in a derogative way you know who they really support - Hamas

Do you realise that a Zionist is someone who advocates for an independent Jewish state where Jewish people can live in safety. Surely anyone in any country would support that for the country they live in irrespective of race or religion.

What Genocide in Gaza - Gaza Population is 1950 was 63,444 and in 2024 is between 2.1 to 2.23 million. estimated 2.03 % increase in 2025.

You do realise that the manifesto of Hamas is to destroy Israel and Kill all Jewish People World Wide- So you would rather Israel and the rest of the world let that happen?

The figures published by the Hamas Terrorist group so called ministry of health has never ever reported any Hamas Terrorist casualties - why is that? - Surely there must be some - 20 to 30 thousands range at least.

The following is a genocide

The worldwide Jewish Population before WW2 was 16 million and 11 million after WW2 - 5 million decrease

Your China's view on Islam is that it is a mental disease which needs to be cured and they lock millions of Chinese Muslims up in re-education camps and Russia had two wars against Muslim Chechnya - Stalin exiled and deported millions of Muslims to far east Russia/ Siberia as well.

You don't say China and Russia are committing genocide though - why is that ?

Full marks to President Trump to revoke the visa's of the supporters of these terrorist groups - whether Hamas , Hezbollah or Houthi's

[King Salvo]

Well, he's a very canny ex copper worth a reputed $300m but, like Mr.T he's divisive piece of work. For the Libs divisiveness is sock in trade - you have the right to be a bigot.

You are a Bigot yourself and obviously have no idea what the word means or that it applies to you.

So what if Dutton's wealth is 300million - came from an modest family of 7 - Father was a builder and Mother was a child care worker.

What's your wealth then as surely you have a tidy sum set aside in being able to build this mansion retreat in the Southern Highlands.

Always a laugh hearing these so-called commies/socialists bang on about others wealth like they are on struggle street when they are as capitalist even in a minor way wealth-wise as the people they attack because of their wealth.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Who is outraged - those that pretend to be "Free Palestine" but in reality support a proscribed Terrorist group in Hamas. When they say Zionists in a derogative way you know who they really support - Hamas

Do you realise that a Zionist is someone who advocates for an independent Jewish state where Jewish people can live in safety. Surely anyone in any country would support that for the country they live in irrespective of race or religion.

What Genocide in Gaza - Gaza Population is 1950 was 63,444 and in 2024 is between 2.1 to 2.23 million. estimated 2.03 % increase in 2025.

You do realise that the manifesto of Hamas is to destroy Israel and Kill all Jewish People World Wide- So you would rather Israel and the rest of the world let that happen?

The figures published by the Hamas Terrorist group so called ministry of health has never ever reported any Hamas Terrorist casualties - why is that? - Surely there must be some - 20 to 30 thousands range at least.

The following is a genocide

The worldwide Jewish Population before WW2 was 16 million and 11 million after WW2 - 5 million decrease

Your China's view on Islam is that it is a mental disease which needs to be cured and they lock millions of Chinese Muslims up in re-education camps and Russia had two wars against Muslim Chechnya - Stalin exiled and deported millions of Muslims to far east Russia/ Siberia as well.

You don't say China and Russia are committing genocide though - why is that ?

Full marks to President Trump to revoke the visa's of the supporters of these terrorist groups - whether Hamas , Hezbollah or Houthi's

Tch..tch...you didn't take note last time - no Apostrophe in "Houthis".

I will deal with your rant by paragraphs:

1.* So what? W.A.? Israel was forced on another country/religion/culture by the UN (America) in 1948 part of the declaration was that there was to be a 2 state solution. Never happened Balfour described the Palestinians as "a polyglot lot".

2. Jesus, can't believe it. 50,000 dead and the place junked. It's genocide in progress. Genocide also includes relocation and that's the object. Oct7 gave them the opportunity.

3. So Israel got in first, is that it? The IDF has co-opted the slogan. Would you wonder anyway, after oppression since 1948?

4. So what? Where did that come from?

5. Oh so you've you've got a math thing going. What is your benchline Genocide? 5mil? 50 mil? They are people Sal!

6. China's view of Islam is realistic. Countless millions believing in a Sky Daddy. WTF. Marx's quip re opium was spot on.

7. Because they're not. But you might have them placed on your graphs.

8. That Apostrophe is the only thing I can think about in this closing para.

I returned in the hope that you'd moved on temperamentally but I see that's not the case. References to Cold War Russia have no meaning for the younguns and they're not relevant here. I urge you to be reasonable in discussion here. Focus, the topic is the Up/Coming Federal election. You sound like someone in the Catholic Holy Name Society. Is it still going?

[King Salvo]

The problem with you is your scattergun approach with your posts, as you are the one who mentioned off-topic subjects.

You are way too easy to defeat in a debate, and as a supposed history teacher, you are not really across this subject as we all can see. Way too much influenced by conspiracy theorist sites you frequent.

Glad you're agreeing with me about China's actions against their Muslims and for the Cold War; we all know you are clueless about that. Even said you knew nothing about Russia.

No genocide at all, and you know it, and something antisemitic folk can never prove that it is—oh, it's the Zionist's way, bollocks—who attacked Israel in 1948.

Even the Muslim Quran says the land of Israel is the home of the Jewish People (Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judea). The Muslim Quran mentions Israel 43 times and Palestine 0 times. The Philistines (Philistine States) are no relation to Palestinians. Philistines disappeared in the 5th century BC. The Greeks and Romans renamed the area Palaestina, which later became Palestine.

Even Hamas admits there are no such people as Palestinians—Palestinians are either Egyptian, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, or Syrian—their surnames are the clue to this. You can see that from the increase in the population over time as well—immigration.

Arafat, head of the PLO, was Egyptian.

[Andrew Walker]

Well, he's a very canny ex copper worth a reputed $300m but, like Mr.T he's divisive piece of work. For the Libs divisiveness is sock in trade - you have the right to be a bigot.

I have no interest in what might be his I’ll gotten wealth

[Andrew Walker]

The problem with you is your scattergun approach with your posts, as you are the one who mentioned off-topic subjects.

You are way too easy to defeat in a debate, and as a supposed history teacher, you are not really across this subject as we all can see. Way too much influenced by conspiracy theorist sites you frequent.

Glad you're agreeing with me about China's actions against their Muslims and for the Cold War; we all know you are clueless about that. Even said you knew nothing about Russia.

No genocide at all, and you know it, and something antisemitic folk can never prove that it is—oh, it's the Zionist's way, bollocks—who attacked Israel in 1948.

Even the Muslim Quran says the land of Israel is the home of the Jewish People (Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judea). The Muslim Quran mentions Israel 43 times and Palestine 0 times. The Philistines (Philistine States) are no relation to Palestinians. Philistines disappeared in the 5th century BC. The Greeks and Romans renamed the area Palaestina, which later became Palestine.

Even Hamas admits there are no such people as Palestinians—Palestinians are either Egyptian, Jordanian, Saudi Arabian, or Syrian—their surnames are the clue to this. You can see that from the increase in the population over time as well—immigration.

Arafat, head of the PLO, was Egyptian.

A polite reminder this is The Upcoming Federal Election thread We have other threads for these Middle Eastern political discussions Could you please stay on topic

[Paddo Colt 61]

I have implored him to stick to the topic Loki but like the grammar advice, he's disregarded all entreaties, raving on about who knows what. That last post was most puzzling - are we all agreed that the Old Testament scriptures should determine ownership of nations? I mean they're not exactly Torrens Title and playing that card only invites ridicule.

The derisory remarks about Palestinians seem to describe a successful multicultural community and a very tight one at that.

Anyway, if he doesn't listen to me, I hope that he hears you. He's not a bad fella and I think a sincere one but I've told him to stick to the footy where he adds value, he's out of his depth here. The scriptures indeed.

[Andrew Walker]

I know PC it was very puzzling

Here I was in an early morning contented state of being after my morning meditation and then a swim at the beach to where mine and a few others delight we were joined by a few dolphins Only for it all to be somewhat altered by inate ramblings of the Old Testament scriptures in the federal election thread where they really have no place

I must digress that due to the meditations subject being The Metta Bhavana The cultivation of loving kindness I find myself having to be in agreeance with your latter comments on Sal I’m sure he is a sincere fellow

[Rooster1908]

I have implored him to stick to the topic Loki but like the grammar advice, he's disregarded all entreaties, raving on about who knows what. That last post was most puzzling - are we all agreed that the Old Testament scriptures should determine ownership of nations? I mean they're not exactly Torrens Title and playing that card only invites ridicule.

The derisory remarks about Palestinians seem to describe a successful multicultural community and a very tight one at that.

Anyway, if he doesn't listen to me, I hope that he hears you. He's not a bad fella and I think a sincere one but I've told him to stick to the footy where he adds value, he's out of his depth here. The scriptures indeed.

The gangs all here I see. So the 60000 years of indigenous land ownership is to be trumped by Torrens title

[Andrew Walker]

The gangs all here I see. So the 60000 years of indigenous land ownership is to be trumped by Torrens title

Not at all Personally I say Lets give it back

[Rooster1908]

Not at all Personally I say Lets give it back

Starting with yours I presume . Great song but .