The Coming Federal Election.

[King Salvo]

The largest source of personal wealth in Oz is inheritance. Why is Dutton better? There must be a basis for your opinion. Spell it out for us.

You won't because you can't, rusted on doesn't bother much with policy. Mum and Dad didn't, they didn't understand it, they just knew.

"I don't trust Whitlam" mum said during an ad break in "It's a Knockout".

"Why?" Maverick asked.

"I just don't trust him that's all".

Will he take away your part time job at Spotlight and Dad's job at Bunnings? I mean neither of you are captains of industry, what does it matter what you think, it's all confused anyway.

"Well I do know that a Liberal Government is wonderful at helping people. That nice Mr. Angus Taylor bought some land for $1.5m for his "for ever" home and then he reluctantly sold it to the Government for $70m. Dad's hoping that we can do something like that with our block in Coonabarabran but Mr. Taylor was dead lucky, the land he bought was needed for the new airport. How fortunate was that? He buys a block with his lovely fiancee to settle down on and and the government sticks its head in forcing a compulsory acquisition. "if they want to do that to me and Destiny they can bloody well pay for it he said and you would be upset wouldn't you? He just an ordinary person like us and we trust him.".

So what issue do you have against people receiving an inheritance - you are not advocating for a return of death duties that your laboring on introduced in 1914 which was finally abolished by the Liberals under Malcolm Fraser in 1979.

Our Mother and Father knew Gough Whitlam through the RSL Sub Branches/Annual Conferences etc - Gough Served from Mid 1942 until late 1945 mostly in Gove Peninsula Northern Territory- Trained as a Navigator and Bomb Aimer and later flew Lockeed Ventura Bombers.

It's a wonder you liked him as he was an Anzac

As for Angus Taylor that's just good business acumen something the lefties don't have

Angus Taylor founded an Agricultural Fund called Growth Farms with his Brother Richard - The business managed some of Australia's largest Agricultural Concerns - Angus sold his share in Growth Farms for $400 million back in 2020.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

When talking about why Mr Dutton is better than Albanese, no one is mentioning the big one....social cohesion/and law and order.

It's become a farce under this Govt, albeit a heartbreaking one for Aussies. If you dont live in Sydney or Melbourne perhaps you are somewhat shielded from it. But every week literally since the 7/10 atrocities we have had people marching in the streets with anti Israel, anti Australia, terrorist supporting chants, signs and symbols. We've had hate preachers on the streets saying how "elated " they are with 7/10 and its victims. Plus online calling for a Jihad and praising the "brave warriors" of the ",resistance". Not to mention the Opera House terrorists invading a commemoration for the victims and families of 7/10. Then the now almost daily graffiti attacks, vandalism of cars and property, Arson attacks on homes and Synagogues....etc etc etc

People in Australia are living in fear...the terrorists are winning. We cant allow people to roam free in this country who hate our values...its a toxic mix that this nation doesn't deserve. And this Govt has done SFA...just to keep the Muslim vote in some marginal seats. Albanese and Wong are a disgrace...justvactivists who have somehow attained office. They arent leaders. Then they import 3000 odd people from Gaza, who have celebrated 7/10 on their streets and grown up taught how to hate and kill Jews...I kid you not. FMD. No one else wanted them, even other Arab countries, kinda tells you something.

This is the hill I think Albanese dies on, moreso than cost of living. He presents as a guy who knows he is out of his depth. He has the stench of political death. Similar to Kam Harris.

In contrast Mr Dutton has more strength, conviction and Australian values than Albanese. Theres 3 for ya. Although so would a square of tissue paper compared to this man.

I reckon Aussies are getting ready to kick his sorry arse back to his next retirement mansion. And he probably won't even mind.

IMHO.

[King Salvo]

When talking about why Mr Dutton is better than Albanese, no one is mentioning the big one....social cohesion/and law and order.

It's become a farce under this Govt, albeit a heartbreaking one for Aussies. If you dont live in Sydney or Melbourne perhaps you are somewhat shielded from it. But every week literally since the 7/10 atrocities we have had people marching in the streets with anti Israel, anti Australia, terrorist supporting chants, signs and symbols. We've had hate preachers on the streets saying how "elated " they are with 7/10 and its victims. Plus online calling for a Jihad and praising the "brave warriors" of the ",resistance". Not to mention the Opera House terrorists invading a commemoration for the victims and families of 7/10. Then the now almost daily graffiti attacks, vandalism of cars and property, Arson attacks on homes and Synagogues....etc etc etc

People in Australia are living in fear...the terrorists are winning. We cant allow people to roam free in this country who hate our values...its a toxic mix that this nation doesn't deserve. And this Govt has done SFA...just to keep the Muslim vote in some marginal seats. Albanese and Wong are a disgrace...justvactivists who have somehow attained office. They arent leaders. Then they import 3000 odd people from Gaza, who have celebrated 7/10 on their streets and grown up taught how to hate and kill Jews...I kid you not. FMD. No one else wanted them, even other Arab countries, kinda tells you something.

This is the hill I think Albanese dies on, moreso than cost of living. He presents as a guy who knows he is out of his depth. He has the stench of political death. Similar to Kam Harris.

In contrast Mr Dutton has more strength, conviction and Australian values than Albanese. Theres 3 for ya. Although so would a square of tissue paper compared to this man.

I reckon Aussies are getting ready to kick his sorry arse back to his next retirement mansion. And he probably won't even mind.

IMHO.

A national disgrace those Laboring on MP's walking out and we all know they are beholden to the Muslim extremists and worried about losing seats where large contingents of Muslims reside.

Even Capitalist Paddo's hero in Putin welcomed Islamic Jihadist Hamas Officials to Moscow plus again a few days ago even.

Strange when you think that Putin ordered the two wars by Russia against Muslim Chechnya and the Soviet Unions History of exiling and deporting Millions of Soviet Muslins to far east Russia and Siberia - Probably trying to round up some more cannon fodder for the Ukraine war he started like he has with the North Koreans conscripts that Ukraine Resistance forces are neutralising on mass.

Is Albanese related to that Terrorist Group Loving so called UN Special Rapporteur for the Atlantis like Palestine Francesca Albanese?

Had a few debates with her on X before she blocked me - couldn't answer simple questions such as how Islamic Jihadist Hamas officials all become multi billionaires and how the Islamic Jihadist Hamas's Manifesto of Destroying Israel and Killing All Jewish People worldwide was not genocidal intent.

Hamas has a right to defend themselves she replied - mmm who attacked Israel again Hamas or the Palestinians was my reply - Yeh she answered Hamas not Palestinians have a right to defend themselves and knew she made a big mistake and then blocked me.

Fakes as

[Random Rooster]

When talking about why Mr Dutton is better than Albanese, no one is mentioning the big one....social cohesion/and law and order.

It's become a farce under this Govt, albeit a heartbreaking one for Aussies. If you dont live in Sydney or Melbourne perhaps you are somewhat shielded from it. But every week literally since the 7/10 atrocities we have had people marching in the streets with anti Israel, anti Australia, terrorist supporting chants, signs and symbols. We've had hate preachers on the streets saying how "elated " they are with 7/10 and its victims. Plus online calling for a Jihad and praising the "brave warriors" of the ",resistance". Not to mention the Opera House terrorists invading a commemoration for the victims and families of 7/10. Then the now almost daily graffiti attacks, vandalism of cars and property, Arson attacks on homes and Synagogues....etc etc etc

People in Australia are living in fear...the terrorists are winning. We cant allow people to roam free in this country who hate our values...its a toxic mix that this nation doesn't deserve. And this Govt has done SFA...just to keep the Muslim vote in some marginal seats. Albanese and Wong are a disgrace...justvactivists who have somehow attained office. They arent leaders. Then they import 3000 odd people from Gaza, who have celebrated 7/10 on their streets and grown up taught how to hate and kill Jews...I kid you not. FMD. No one else wanted them, even other Arab countries, kinda tells you something.

This is the hill I think Albanese dies on, moreso than cost of living. He presents as a guy who knows he is out of his depth. He has the stench of political death. Similar to Kam Harris.

In contrast Mr Dutton has more strength, conviction and Australian values than Albanese. Theres 3 for ya. Although so would a square of tissue paper compared to this man.

I reckon Aussies are getting ready to kick his sorry arse back to his next retirement mansion. And he probably won't even mind.

IMHO.

The Australian governments-from both sides- have always contributed millions to Jewish schools,synagogues, museums to spend on security or whatever they please. Just last month they were granted 32 million for what i just mentioned.

As a long time resident of Bellevue Hill, in a street that the majority are Jewish- i can tell you they are not living in fear. You dont give them enough credit- they are resilient, vigilant and cautious like they always have been- but to say they "live in fear" or the "terrorists are winning"- not by a long shot. As i said before in another post, im concerned when my kids go out to the local establishments because of the events of overseas- but im not stopping them from going or mixing with their Jewish friends from school. I do stop them from mixing with those who are bad influences- i dont care who they are or what their background is

Im with you in that protests calling for violences, hate speeches, Nazi symbols or anything like that against any race, it should be deemed illegal and those involved should be prosecuted. What else exactly do you want to see happen? The protests calling for the end of the genocide in Gaza were done after the organisers reached a agreement with NSW police. The pro Palestinian protests in Brisbane last year went ahead with the co-operation of the QLD police and government. Sounds like you think these protests shouldn't have been allowed? Maybe we should ban all protests?

As for your " No one else wanted them, even other Arab countries, kinda tells you something" - that's a very very ordinary thing to say. Its actually the exact same rubbish comment racist people said about Jews when looking back throughout the centuries.

[ism22]

'People aren't talking about how amazing social cohesion will be under Dutton... lemme write a 10,000 wall of text that replicated Fox News's propaganda about how Dutton will free our streets of the muslim terrorists who have supposedly entangled them with hate and violence'.

[Looks outside to a peaceful street... thinks of how Temu Trump opposes transgender rights, indigenous rights, inflames hatred of muslims and claims foreigners are destroying our country... yeah nah I'm good thanks!]

You been listening to Fox News again brother? Take a breather. It's not good for your blood pressure.

[Andrew Walker]

Yes,yes, yes indeed, #182 was certainly straight from the Fox News / Murdoch playbook. But really did anyone expect anything less from that poster. I know I didn’t and PC has called this poster out for this on many an occasion. You know the old saying If or Who the cap fits and one poster has aimed up really well. Never one to miss a chance for a good sing song here’s one from the great Bob Marley

[Rooster1908]

Yes,yes, yes indeed, #182 was certainly straight from the Fox News / Murdoch playbook. But really did anyone expect anything less from that poster. I know I didn’t and PC has called this poster out for this on many an occasion. You know the old saying If or Who the cap fits and one poster has aimed up really well. Never one to miss a chance for a good sing song here’s one from the great Bob Marley

And your seems to be out of the Pado playbook .Fair dinkum just because you don't agree with his opinions doesn't make him wrong and visa versa .Find a new t ack to play

[Andrew Walker]

And your seems to be out of the Pado playbook .Fair dinkum just because you don't agree with his opinions doesn't make him wrong and visa versa .Find a new t ack to play

This is nothing more than robust discussion people disagreeing with others views nothing wrong with that. I’m sure the poster of #182 is capable of his own defence if he wishes to be not that it’s really needed.

Interestingly I live not too far from RR and just like RRsaid The Jewish people I know are not living in fear and they do not believe the terrorists are winning as quoted in#182 which I will reiterate is straight from the Fox/Murdoch news playbook. Just because PC has called it doesn’t mean I didn’t already think this about the #182 poster. I think I said to you earlier in this thread this poster has a long history going back well over a decade of these types of posts that mirror what has been said on Fox/Murdoch news.

I see you are selective in who you respond to as the post above my initial recent post Was also saying the same thing

[Paddo Colt 61]

* '08: Yours is a free assertion (ie off the top of your head). There's no indication that accounts below $3m will be affected and even if, $2m and $1m in the account would affect very few and none on here.You are of the tradie mentality - no concern for the wider community (tax dodgers) and the dumb impression that everyone is rich. The median wage (median is a better indicator than MR's "average because it identifies the most commonly paid wage which, in NSW, is around $52K a year. The tradie income alone would push up the average.

* Sal: Shish... giving the Rapporteur a hard time with your loopy conspiracy stuff. You'll have ASIO onto you buddy if you keep that up. Anti depressants are what I recommend. You'll feel like a new man.

Reluctantly I call bullshit on the cousin - the claim is in the same category as "I've always voted progressive/never voted conservative, but this time......" or "it's the mums and dads with modest investments who will be affected..." How many mums and dads have share portfolios and investment houses? Mums and Tradies probably, most of whom have inherited their initial stake that's who. The ones who whinge loudest about the cozzie liv. As if the Party of Capital/business is ever going to regulate the cost of living. They don't give orders to Corporations, they take them.

[mightyrooster]

* '08: Yours is a free assertion (ie off the top of your head). There's no indication that accounts below $3m will be affected and even if, $2m and $1m in the account would affect very few and none on here.You are of the tradie mentality - no concern for the wider community (tax dodgers) and the dumb impression that everyone is rich. The median wage (median is a better indicator than MR's "average because it identifies the most commonly paid wage which, in NSW, is around $52K a year. The tradie income alone would push up the average.

* Sal: Shish... giving the Rapporteur a hard time with your loopy conspiracy stuff. You'll have ASIO onto you buddy if you keep that up. Anti depressants are what I recommend. You'll feel like a new man.

Reluctantly I call bullshit on the cousin - the claim is in the same category as "I've always voted progressive/never voted conservative, but this time......" or "it's the mums and dads with modest investments who will be affected..." How many mums and dads have share portfolios and investment houses? Mums and Tradies probably, most of whom have inherited their initial stake that's who. The ones who whinge loudest about the cozzie liv. As if the Party of Capital/business is ever going to regulate the cost of living. They don't give orders to Corporations, they take them.

Yes you’re right. I should have said median. It’s what I meant but used the wrong terminology. Median ensures you get rid of the big outliers at either end of the spectrum. I think you’ll find the median wage is about $65k per annum though these days. That’s Australia wide but I see you just quoted NSW.

[King Salvo]

According to this report Australia has the 4th highest minimum wage in the world behind Luxemburg , Netherlands and New Zealand - of course juniors under the age of 21 will get a % of the relevant adult pay rate based on the particular industries Award or EA

Under 16 - 45%
16 - 50%
17 - 60%
18 - 70%
19 - 80%
20 - 90%
21 - 100%

https://velocityglobal.com/resources...2%82%AC2%2C571)

According to the ABS the median wage in Australia is $ 1396.00 per week - $72,592 per annum so NSW's cannot be $52k as quoted by Capitalist Paddo - mmm must be those shoddy tradies boosting that figure

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/la...0August%202023.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Greedy, entitled and often shoddy. Ignorant as well. Ever tried to converse?

[King Salvo]

* '08: Yours is a free assertion (ie off the top of your head). There's no indication that accounts below $3m will be affected and even if, $2m and $1m in the account would affect very few and none on here.You are of the tradie mentality - no concern for the wider community (tax dodgers) and the dumb impression that everyone is rich. The median wage (median is a better indicator than MR's "average because it identifies the most commonly paid wage which, in NSW, is around $52K a year. The tradie income alone would push up the average.

* Sal: Shish... giving the Rapporteur a hard time with your loopy conspiracy stuff. You'll have ASIO onto you buddy if you keep that up. Anti depressants are what I recommend. You'll feel like a new man.

Reluctantly I call bullshit on the cousin - the claim is in the same category as "I've always voted progressive/never voted conservative, but this time......" or "it's the mums and dads with modest investments who will be affected..." How many mums and dads have share portfolios and investment houses? Mums and Tradies probably, most of whom have inherited their initial stake that's who. The ones who whinge loudest about the cozzie liv. As if the Party of Capital/business is ever going to regulate the cost of living. They don't give orders to Corporations, they take them.

ASIO would have no interested in me although I cannot say the same about you Capitalist Paddo

Where's the evidence that those with 3 mill plus super balances are tax dodgers though? - SMSF could be made up of super contributions ( capped personal contributions and employer superannuation guarantee payments) and a range of other assets such as share portfolios, investment properties for an example notwithstanding illiquid assets such as small businesses and farms etc as well where no dividends are paid out

All above board to add these to a SMSF as they are regularly audited as well - Laboring on want to get rid of SMSF so they can grab more tax revenue from hard working Aussies.

If you say very few will be affected then why bring it in then - mmm I have a feeling something bigger is being contemplated in regards to Taxation across the board

Who in their right mind would come up with a tax policy that taxes unrealised gains - what next from Laboring on tax people now for possible future salary and pay rises and or tax the unrealised gains on the family home even.

It's double taxation - tax on unrealised gains then CGT when the asset is sold - what about unrealised losses will folk be refunded for these or be able to offset these against future unrealised gains - No Indexation either

I think there are a few on here that will be affected.

This is the confused Laboring on again. They have embraced Capitalism but only the Capitalism that suits them.- Similar to other lefties on here

mmm I wonder what the super balances of the laboring on budding property tycoons and asset accumulators are ?

[mightyrooster]

By comparison the AVERAGE wage in 1995 was $29K. Sorry google won’t tell me the median back then from a quick search. But you’ve got to remember these are the median or average wages.

[mightyrooster]

According to this report Australia has the 4th highest minimum wage in the world behind Luxemburg , Netherlands and New Zealand - of course juniors under the age of 21 will get a % of the relevant adult pay rate based on the particular industries Award or EA

Under 16 - 45%
16 - 50%
17 - 60%
18 - 70%
19 - 80%
20 - 90%
21 - 100%

https://velocityglobal.com/resources...2%82%AC2%2C571)

According to the ABS the median wage in Australia is $ 1396.00 per week - $72,592 per annum so NSW's cannot be $52k as quoted by Capitalist Paddo - mmm must be those shoddy tradies boosting that figure

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/la...0August%202023.

Oh different to what google told me. I was actually thinking as an ‘off the top of the head’ guess around $70k but google told me $65k.