The Coming Federal Election.

[Rooster1908]

Well, if it wasn’t for your mate sending in the troops to bomb the fk outta their country, I’d hazard to guess that they wouldn’t have left their family and friends 12 years ago and be anywhere near here right now.

Well that's no reason to bring there issues here and carry on like dipshites .And yes I have sympathy for the innocents but not the trouble makers

[A Country Member]

Well that's no reason to bring there issues here and carry on like dipshites .And yes I have sympathy for the innocents but not the trouble makers

Thanks for reminding me about the rising influence of AI 08. Because there is no way in the world that you are real!

[King Salvo]

I recall Paul Keating stating that Howard's government's refusal to increase the employers' superannuation contribution from 9% to the next tier, which would eventually reach 15%, would ultimately result in a rise in the retirement age and exacerbate the funding crisis in aged care. Tick and tick

Mind you Keating delayed the second round of tax cuts promised during the 1993 election, opting instead to redirect the equivalent amount into superannuation contributions. In 1996, John Howard promised to pay that the second phase of the LAW tax cuts, which was 3% of wages, and would be put into personal superannuation accounts. That promise was broken. If this had happened, the mandatory superannuation would now be 15%. However under the Howard years company taxes were slashed companies despite the record profits they were already delivering and the economy ended up in surplus. 3 cheers for Howard and Costello....now work till your 67 and live off your meagre pension, because there is always someone who is getting duped and i can tell you its never ever the top end.

Incidentally, before all you Lib voters start carrying on with the bs trickle down economic lies that right wing media feed you ( like "employers create the jobs, without them you will be living in poverty"), there have been plenty of Labor governments between Howard and today who could have made it right again-but they didn't either- so they can root a boot too!

Pete Costello made super tax free though for folk 60 and over back in 2007. Swings and roundabouts - what would people rather have an increase in the employer superannuation guarantee or tax free super when they retire.

Affordability as well to pay across the board this 15% - small businesses would struggle paying this - All okay for Laboring on to say pay 15% as they aren't the people who have to pay it.

Companies/ Businesses need to be viable and make profits to be able to employ folk to provide the goods and services that Aussies want. No guarantee that Companies/Businesses would continue making such profits either

Not sure why Companies/ Businesses making profits is such an issue for the lefty's as a lot benefit one way or another from the "distribution of wealth" from these profits as members of the Super Funds they are in.

Super funds invest in a raft of areas and provide members of these funds with a range or investment options to choose from such as

Growth investment options - could be 85% in shares and property and 15% in fixed interest or cash
Balance investment options - could be 70% in shares and property and 30% in fixed interest or cash
Conservative investment options - could be 30% in shares and 70% in fixed interest or cash

Non shares options

Cash investment option 100% in deposits with Aussie deposit taking institutions or in capital guarantee life insurance policies

[ism22]

Interestingly there's more than 182 posts and I can only see 95 (promise I haven't blocked many people). Be curious see how many I could get this down to by moving a few more on.

I would also like to thank the Australian Liberal Party and Fox News for their detailed propaganda. We greatly appreciate your presence on here when it's close to an election you feel is winnable. Oh and your oh so deadly silence (other than repetitive, delusional, cry baby whinging that 'Albo is the worst... I cannot live anymore without the threat of Muslim terrorists invading my backyard...' when the Libs lose).

Suffice to say I've heard your economic and security analysis before. Let me summarise...

- When the economy's steady under a Labor government, this is all the Libs' fault. Though if there's growth (largely due to China buying lotsa coal) after Labor's floated the dollar & opened up trade to China then this is all Peter Costello's fault.

- When the economy's farked under a Liberal government, this is all Labor's fault. If it's farked under Labor after a string of bad decisions including Robodebt, sham 'Community Sports Grants' being palmed off, the PM appointing himself as minister for every major portfolio, Gladys/Ayres (or heck - the two 'hard men' that Dutton appointed to run 'Home Affairs'... Pezzulo and Quadvlieg) getting the boot for corruption, Libs paying billions of extra $$$ to hire consultants to replace public servants...etc then the Libs are not to blame. We'll just ignore these little things. Oh they never happened, everything was PERFECT under Malcolm, Abbott and ScoMo. Zero problems there [sarcasm].

- Anything to do with crime and foreign wars is Labor's fault. These things couldn't possibly be due to criminals and foreign governments. Did you know that as QLD's most junior police officer, he rid the entire state of crime? Promise ya he wasn't slacking off, managing a heap of childcare centres and commercial property developments, which he somehow owned on a constable's salary (and had lotsa time to manage while on the beat).

[Rooster1908]

Thanks for reminding me about the rising influence of AI 08. Because there is no way in the world that you are real!

Well with the invent of AI even you can have some intelligence

[King Salvo]

Lefties are never true to their convictions on wealth distribution and the so called commo and socialist way as we have all seen on here from the budding property tycoons and wealth accumulators - wanting to buy up big on investment properties ( residential and commercial) and even building mansion retreats in the elite wealthy areas.

How can they sleep at night you ask - very well by the looks of it - counting dollars instead of sheep.

Whinge and moan about the so called nasty capitalist rich party of elites only because their assets and wealth accumulation haven't yet reached the level of wealth they so much desire.

Ah Ha Ha ever get the feeling you've been cheated- Good Night - Lefties have as after years of generational lefty brainwashing they are starting to wake up that cash is king and capitalism is the way forward.

Trump Voter John Lydon aka Johnny Rotten is 100% correct about lefties and the lefty parties and movement of confusion

Never Mind the Bollocks as they will all be voting Liberal/National soon.

[mightyrooster]

Interestingly there's more than 182 posts and I can only see 95 (promise I haven't blocked many people). Be curious see how many I could get this down to by moving a few more on.

I would also like to thank the Australian Liberal Party and Fox News for their detailed propaganda. We greatly appreciate your presence on here when it's close to an election you feel is winnable. Oh and your oh so deadly silence (other than repetitive, delusional, cry baby whinging that 'Albo is the worst... I cannot live anymore without the threat of Muslim terrorists invading my backyard...' when the Libs lose).

Suffice to say I've heard your economic and security analysis before. Let me summarise...

- When the economy's steady under a Labor government, this is all the Libs' fault. Though if there's growth (largely due to China buying lotsa coal) after Labor's floated the dollar & opened up trade to China then this is all Peter Costello's fault.

- When the economy's farked under a Liberal government, this is all Labor's fault. If it's farked under Labor after a string of bad decisions including Robodebt, sham 'Community Sports Grants' being palmed off, the PM appointing himself as minister for every major portfolio, Gladys/Ayres (or heck - the two 'hard men' that Dutton appointed to run 'Home Affairs'... Pezzulo and Quadvlieg) getting the boot for corruption, Libs paying billions of extra $$$ to hire consultants to replace public servants...etc then the Libs are not to blame. We'll just ignore these little things. Oh they never happened, everything was PERFECT under Malcolm, Abbott and ScoMo. Zero problems there [sarcasm].

- Anything to do with crime and foreign wars is Labor's fault. These things couldn't possibly be due to criminals and foreign governments. Did you know that as QLD's most junior police officer, he rid the entire state of crime? Promise ya he wasn't slacking off, managing a heap of childcare centres and commercial property developments, which he somehow owned on a constable's salary (and had lotsa time to manage while on the beat).

Yeah and I think I’m one of them despite my support against the many derogatory posters and hecklers over the years. It’s a strange world. I can’t decipher a lot of the rest as it seems to be confusing a bit of history.

[Andrew Walker]

Yeah and I think I’m one of them despite my support against the many derogatory posters and hecklers over the years. It’s a strange world. I can’t decipher a lot of the rest as it seems to be confusing a bit of history.

I wouldn’t worry about it if that is the case MR It is not your fault ism wants to live in an echo chamber on here

A gentle reminder him doing all this blocking and then highlighting it for us like another poster once did, shows us all he is the one with the issues not those whom he has blocked. He can’t be far off asking or demanding others do not quote those he has blocked

[mightyrooster]

I wouldn’t worry about it if that is the case MR It is not your fault ism wants to live in an echo chamber on here

A reminder him doing all this blocking and then highlighting it for us like another poster once did, shows us all he is the one with the issues not those whom he has blocked. He can’t be far off asking or demanding others do not quote those he has blocked

I don’t want to derail the thread so will say no more. I just find it personally a bit disappointing. I’ll say no more.

[Andrew Walker]

I don’t want to derail the thread so will say no more. I just find it personally a bit disappointing. I’ll say no more.

I feel ism is trying to derail the thread with his comment Seeing us all respectfully discussing the issues at hand in spite of some of us having differences was too much for him.

He is not worthy of your disappointment. Now back on topic I was overjoyed to see you eventually grasp my point on what I’d mentioned with the 3 million super tax

[Random Rooster]

Pete Costello made super tax free though for folk 60 and over back in 2007. Swings and roundabouts - what would people rather have an increase in the employer superannuation guarantee or tax free super when they retire.

Affordability as well to pay across the board this 15% - small businesses would struggle paying this - All okay for Laboring on to say pay 15% as they aren't the people who have to pay it.

Companies/ Businesses need to be viable and make profits to be able to employ folk to provide the goods and services that Aussies want. No guarantee that Companies/Businesses would continue making such profits either

Not sure why Companies/ Businesses making profits is such an issue for the lefty's as a lot benefit one way or another from the "distribution of wealth" from these profits as members of the Super Funds they are in.

Super funds invest in a raft of areas and provide members of these funds with a range or investment options to choose from such as

Growth investment options - could be 85% in shares and property and 15% in fixed interest or cash
Balance investment options - could be 70% in shares and property and 30% in fixed interest or cash
Conservative investment options - could be 30% in shares and 70% in fixed interest or cash

Non shares options

Cash investment option 100% in deposits with Aussie deposit taking institutions or in capital guarantee life insurance policies

Sal if you like i can give a detailed response that shows how little tax was paid on Super before 2007 and how Costello's cut to Super for those over 60 sounded like the government was abolishing something that was a massive revenue maker for them for the benefit of the average worker. In reality the government was forfeiting a very small area that made them revenue- but you need to know how the tax system on Super worked. However it was a smart political move by Costello because it did sound great for the average punter....and the Daily Mirror & Co put a good spin on it. No government after Howard/Costello would reverse it because it would make the government very little revenue but will presented as a mean government grab. Again, if you want me to go into detail on how it all works, for a fellow Rooster and Nottingham Forest supporter im happy to do it.

As for company tax, i think its best explained by a great Australian Dick Smith, who has hands on experience in this area throughout the decades the er and tells it like it is.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4b0b3785a0b09a

[Paddo Colt 61]

I wouldn’t worry about it if that is the case MR It is not your fault ism wants to live in an echo chamber on here

A gentle reminder him doing all this blocking and then highlighting it for us like another poster once did, shows us all he is the one with the issues not those whom he has blocked. He can’t be far off asking or demanding others do not quote those he has blocked

I don't see Izzy's recent posts as being other than reasonable. He's having a very effective dig against the right that is somewhat unexpected and reason should beat emotion though it seldom does. I don't know much about the blocking issue.

[Paddo Colt 61]

1979 - Public Transport Commission back then - changed to State Rail Authority

1st Year at the Apprentice Training College at Chullora
Second year - Elcar/Boshops/Eveleigh/Apprentice Training College
Third Year - Balmain Ferries/ Loco Workshops/ Valley Heights/Apprentice Training College
4th Year - Clyburn/Eveleigh/ Loco Workshops/Apprentice Training College

My grandfather was Fitter at Everleigh and took part in the Great Strike in 1916. It must have been a significant part because when, after several months, the strike was broken, he was blackballed and refused further employment. It wasn't the railways' vindictiveness but the right wing Union which had never authorised the strike but had assiduously worked to end it. It was 1916 and the Sheeple were extremely patriotic.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

I really wish Ism22 had accepted Dr Voodoo Mans wager.

Although the self absorbed little delusionist won't see this as I assume I'm on his blacklist (looking at his paraphrasing).

[Paddo Colt 61]

Well, if it wasn’t for your mate sending in the troops to bomb the fk outta their country, I’d hazard to guess that they wouldn’t have left their family and friends 12 years ago and be anywhere near here right now.

Jax is on the looney right fringe which Sky has normalised. They have created this Aussie extreme right wing oasis that looks and sounds like the USA as you've noted previously Count. It's a cheer squad like no other - a constantly blaring megaphone rejoicing in Trump's outrageousness. The Panama canal takeover is interesting because it shows us a return to a US of the past, so powerful and ruthless that it does what it wants.

When the canal was completed it was then within the borders of Colombia and Venezuela. In order to control the canal in perpetuity the US sent gunboats and created a new country - Panama. Easy peasy. How about that for arrogance? Dominating the UN in 1948, the US created another country - Israel. Those who already lived there were not consulted.

I was hoping that the longer away the election is the better. Sky and the msm have Trump hype front and centre and a large percentage of the community are fascinated with the "fcuk you" attitude and celebrity status and, out of sheer ignorance and their loser hate the world attitude, they yearn for a Trump here. I hoped that in time the attraction would fade but now I fear that the rest of the right wing msm will jump on the wagon and, as much as possible, present the wealthy Potato as being Trump South.