The Coming Federal Election.

[King Salvo]

Health Facts

It has become clear that a desperate Albanese Labor Government is attempting to reheat their disgraced Mediscare campaign in an attempt to distract from their failures.

We are setting the record straight.

While Labor is focused on lies and scaremongering, we are focused on the facts.

Labor is relying on lies and spin.

“Australians cannot afford three more years of Labor, or their lies.”

The facts on hospital, Medicare and medicines funding.


https://www.liberal.org.au/health-facts

[King Salvo]

Our Plan To Get Australia Back on Track


https://www.liberal.org.au/our-plan

[mightyrooster]

Yeah the right wing / Libs never use scaremongering techniques ever, ever. The whole of Sky News and 2GB talkback radio masters in this art form.

[King Salvo]

Great points by Pete - Albo signed up for the Nuclear Submarines sending a clear message to all Australian that there is no safety concerns with the latest technology in relation to nuclear

440 Nuclear Power Reactor Plants across the world in 32 countries - US has 94 / China 54/France 56/Russia 36 / Japan 33 / South Korea 26/ India 23 / Canada 19 / UK 9 for instance

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-by-country/

IN FULL: Opposition leader Peter Dutton unveils Coalition's nuclear power policy | ABC News

Opposition leader Peter Dutton holds a press conference, outlining the costings for the Coalition's nuclear power policy.

[King Salvo]

Yeah the right wing / Libs never use scaremongering techniques ever, ever. The whole of Sky News and 2GB talkback radio masters in this art form.

That's the domain of the lefties - the old commo's/socialists propaganda tactics - If you tell people the same thing over and over again they will begin to believe it - also helps with brainwashing them too.

[mightyrooster]

That's the domain of the lefties - the old commo's/socialists propaganda tactics - If you tell people the same thing over and over again they will begin to believe it - also helps with brainwashing them too.

Lol it happens both sides Salvo. As for saying the same thing over and over again…hmm …you could find a new career in it.

[Random Rooster]

Health Facts

It has become clear that a desperate Albanese Labor Government is attempting to reheat their disgraced Mediscare campaign in an attempt to distract from their failures.

We are setting the record straight.

While Labor is focused on lies and scaremongering, we are focused on the facts.

Labor is relying on lies and spin.

“Australians cannot afford three more years of Labor, or their lies.”

The facts on hospital, Medicare and medicines funding.


https://www.liberal.org.au/health-facts

Geez Sal this should be sent to the doctors who voted him the worst health minister in 40 years.

Might have something to do with....

https://www.news.com.au/national/hea...a7459476a88d62 or maybe.... https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...501-zr1ze.html or maybe..... https://theconversation.com/hidden-c...igh-risk-37482

And now he wants us to celebrate and embrace his time as health minister?

[Vasco]

Oh my they say that nothing good ever happens after midnight and they would be correct

The Fake Lefties on here don't fool anyone as they chase the Capitalist dream even harder than anyone else ( no wealth distribution for them) - Capitalist Paddo, for example, who came across as some sort of retired red ragger working poor chalkie with scarcely a cent to their name but in reality was someone that is a Capitalist who is loaded and currently building a mega mansion retreat in a very wealthy elite area.

The only thing worse than a daft lefty is a fake one

Why is it that people are called "lefties" simply for seeing the world from a balanced perspective.

[Vasco]

Whoa...lefties are losin it!

The Prahran and Werribee by-elections have delivered swings away from Labor and the dying Greens. Perhaps the Andrews legacy and also the Greens (esp) hostility towards the Jewish communities have factored in.

With Vic being our "wokest" state, do you think this has alarm bells ringing for our left wing parties?

Knew this discussion would bring you out swinging.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

It's sending alarm bells to both parties because in Werribee despite the 16.7% swing away from Labor on first-preference votes, the Liberal candidate received just a modest 3.7% increase.

In my household im the only one voting for a major party- the boys, daughter and missus will vote Independent, Greens and Teals respectively.

Im voting Libs because Trump called Albo " a very fine man "

Hmm yes, it's interesting the way our optional preferential voting system works. Most people don't really understand the importance of preferences. They pretty much decide the closer ballots, like this one is shaping up to be.

A lot of people seem to want to 'punish' the major parties and vote for the minor candidates, almost in protest. Many of these then chant the usual Murdoch/Sky/hate Dutton (but don't know why) tropes and preference the Libs last. If that line of thinking plays out frequently enough with swinging voters, you get the Govt being returned, a repeat of the same old. You don't punish Labor at all.

So the tricky path to victory for Mr Dutton and the Coalition is for more people to preference Libs ahead of Labor regardless of who they place first on the ballot. Preferences count, esp amongst those that class themselves as 'swinging' voters.

Consequently, I'm not a big fan of voting for the minor parties as 1st preference. I think its kind of an each way bet.

[King Salvo]

Why is it that people are called "lefties" simply for seeing the world from a balanced perspective.

True Leftists believe in such things as regulated markets , welfare state . nationalisation of the economy , central planning/planned economies and state owned/controlled property i.e the state provides the apartments/houses for folk to live in etc plus are anti Globalisation , Free Market and Capitalism

The only thing the so called " lefties" on here would support would be the welfare state - i.e the Government/state's role in the economic and social well-being of it's citizens.- Social Security for instance

Can't see any of them supporting and or advocating for a return of any of the others or being Anti Globalisation , Free Market and Capitalist types either.

They are more closer to being Lib/Nat voters than they think

[Random Rooster]

Hmm yes, it's interesting the way our optional preferential voting system works. Most people don't really understand the importance of preferences. They pretty much decide the closer ballots, like this one is shaping up to be.

A lot of people seem to want to 'punish' the major parties and vote for the minor candidates, almost in protest. Many of these then chant the usual Murdoch/Sky/hate Dutton (but don't know why) tropes and preference the Libs last. If that line of thinking plays out frequently enough with swinging voters, you get the Govt being returned, a repeat of the same old. You don't punish Labor at all.

So the tricky path to victory for Mr Dutton and the Coalition is for more people to preference Libs ahead of Labor regardless of who they place first on the ballot. Preferences count, esp amongst those that class themselves as 'swinging' voters.

Consequently, I'm not a big fan of voting for the minor parties as 1st preference. I think its kind of an each way bet.

Rightly or wrongly, most people who are swinging away from the big 2 is because they are not happy with the performance of either one.

You can just see in this threads discussion that areas of major importance are the same areas that come every election cycle....hospitals,education, housing, taxes, cost of living. Will either party ever get it right?

Maybe we as Australians are spoilt and expect too much from the big 2.....or maybe the big 2 just keep doing a shit job? I guess thats up for debate

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Rightly or wrongly, most people who are swinging away from the big 2 is because they are not happy with the performance of either one.

You can just see in this threads discussion that areas of major importance are the same areas that come every election cycle....hospitals,education, housing, taxes, cost of living. Will either party ever get it right?

Maybe we as Australians are spoilt and expect too much from the big 2.....or maybe the big 2 just keep doing a shit job? I guess thats up for debate

Sure is. The exception to what I described above is, of course, if someone has a good independent/minor party candidate they like and are voting FOR THEM rather than as a protest vote. My partly educated guess though is most voters take a presidential style lens to their vote and are voting for the party/party leader primarily.

[mightyrooster]

True Leftists believe in such things as regulated markets , welfare state . nationalisation of the economy , central planning and state owned/controlled property i.e the state provides the apartments/houses for folk to live in etc plus are anti Globalisation , Free Market and Capitalism

The only thing the so called " lefties" on here would support would be the welfare state - i.e the Government/state's role in the economic and social well-being of it's citizens.- Social Security for instance

Can't see any of them supporting and or advocating for a return of any of the others or being Anti Globalisation , Free Market and Capitalist types either.

They are more closer to being Lib/Nat voters than they think

Yeah exactly. Which is why it’s annoying when the leftie label is used as a means of winning a debate or derailing a discussion. Globalisation and free markets are very important indeed, In fact one could argue Trump is a leftie with his short sighted tariff policy but I know that’s being ridiculous.

[Paddo Colt 61]

A Current Affair looks at the upcoming Federal election.

Hello everyone. Maverick Jones seeking an insight into the voting intentions of folks in the West, currently the focus of the LNP election strategy. I'm at the Guildford Bowlo in Tamplin St and, for this time of day, there is a fair sprinkling of people here. The Club is smallish with welcoming pokies lining the perimeter. Most of those playing appear to be pensioners having a flutter and there are several groups of Tradies in fluro devouring the King's Banquet which the Chef tells me is the most expensive item on the menu and very popular with the guys. Gone now is the chicken Parmi of yesteryear. Business is obviously very good but more power to them, besides they always pay cash which the Chef appreciates because cash doesn't have to go into the till. Know what I mean?

I'm talking first to Ozzie Normal, a former Storeman now working in Pyramid marketing with wife Destiny. Ozzy wasn't aware that a Federal election was looming but he agreed to talk to me about the way that he sees things going forward.

"They orta boot the lot o the bastards out, they do nothin'' he began, "we need a strong leader" he fulminated.

"Who needs one?". "Do you mean like Hitler?"

"The People and Straya needs it to fix all the problems. I'll be voting for John Howard again, best Prime Minister ever. Gave us the gun laws which let us bear arms. It's guaranteed by the Constitution".

"But Howard is not standing for election, he lost his seat way back. Dutton is the great white hope this time".

"Bullshit, I never knew that. Shit! Mum'll get a shock she always said he was the best PM we ever had. Dutton you say?? Never heard of him."

"You don't take a keen interest in politics?"

" Nah it's all bullshit". Most of the blokes down here like to watch Sky news and they tell me all about it and there's another bloke here reads the Tele all day. Not a bad bloke but can be a nasty drunk and he has some Bikie mates. - deadset psychos, old blokes with tats and pony tails. I talk to him a bit but it's boring and I don't understand much of it. Funny because I done good at school in History. I was the only one in the class that knew that Gallipoli ended when we dropped the bomb on the Japs. My uncle was there.

"For whom will you be voting then seeing Howard is not an option?

"Peter Costello's done a good job. I won't be votin' for any commo though. They're bastards. Ya get woken up in the middle of the night and everyone's terrified to speak out. There's no freedom!"

"How do you use that freedom to speak out?"

"I don't much but it's nice to have it there just in case. I do go on a footy site where I got freedom to speak out. The Libs are the best, everybody knows that, they just are. The rest of 'em are Woke anyway".

"What is woke".

"It's anything ya don't like. Commo stuff like Medicare and wage rises. Fcukin Nanny State!

TBC.