The Coming Federal Election.

[mightyrooster]

No offence intended MR you're one of the good ones !

Thanks Crab. I love your posts too.

[Paddo Colt 61]

But she's a woman right ? And don't they not vote Trump ? In a democracy everyone's vote/opinion matters . It's not an IQ test an election . I think the Libs will win in a landslide for what it's worth ....

Say it isn't so Mr.C the rubber has yet to hit the road. Yet we may buck the trend in the West and not begin a future of rule by Plutocratic oligarchy, put in power by a lumpenproletariat (Engles employed the adjective which means "stupid"). A mob, convinced by media, that billionaires have their backs.

By the way, the opinion's not worth much. Wishful thinking on display. I'm a little surprised that you didn't assure us that you've always voted progressive but this time they've gone to far.

[Bates]

.You mean Krudd don’t you?

It's a shame it's not 2027.

[Crab]

Say it isn't so Mr.C the rubber has yet to hit the road. Yet we may buck the trend in the West and not begin a future of rule by Plutocratic oligarchy, put in power by a lumpenproletariat (Engles employed the adjective which means "stupid"). A mob, convinced by media, that billionaires have their backs.

By the way, the opinion's not worth much. Wishful thinking on display. I'm a little surprised that you didn't assure us that you've always voted progressive but this time they've gone to far.

Lol that's a mouthful I hope you didn't choke :-))) Actually I'm not rusted on either way . I prefer to vote on the policy's displayed on the day . A former trade unionist that believes in their principle but not necessarily their execution . I sincerely believe Albos gone in this one . Dead man walking here Boss, deeaaaadddd maaaannn walking .....

[King Salvo]

A Current Affair looks at the upcoming Federal election.

Hello everyone. Maverick Jones seeking an insight into the voting intentions of folks in the West, currently the focus of the LNP election strategy. I'm at the Guildford Bowlo in Tamplin St and, for this time of day, there is a fair sprinkling of people here. The Club is smallish with welcoming pokies lining the perimeter. Most of those playing appear to be pensioners having a flutter and there are several groups of Tradies in fluro devouring the King's Banquet which the Chef tells me is the most expensive item on the menu and very popular with the guys. Gone now is the chicken Parmi of yesteryear. Business is obviously very good but more power to them, besides they always pay cash which the Chef appreciates because cash doesn't have to go into the till. Know what I mean?

I'm talking first to Ozzie Normal, a former Storeman now working in Pyramid marketing with wife Destiny. Ozzy wasn't aware that a Federal election was looming but he agreed to talk to me about the way that he sees things going forward.

"They orta boot the lot o the bastards out, they do nothin'' he began, "we need a strong leader" he fulminated.

"Who needs one?". "Do you mean like Hitler?"

"The People and Straya needs it to fix all the problems. I'll be voting for John Howard again, best Prime Minister ever. Gave us the gun laws which let us bear arms. It's guaranteed by the Constitution".

"But Howard is not standing for election, he lost his seat way back. Dutton is the great white hope this time".

"Bullshit, I never knew that. Shit! Mum'll get a shock she always said he was the best PM we ever had. Dutton you say?? Never heard of him."

"You don't take a keen interest in politics?"

" Nah it's all bullshit". Most of the blokes down here like to watch Sky news and they tell me all about it and there's another bloke here reads the Tele all day. Not a bad bloke but can be a nasty drunk and he has some Bikie mates. - deadset psychos, old blokes with tats and pony tails. I talk to him a bit but it's boring and I don't understand much of it. Funny because I done good at school in History. I was the only one in the class that knew that Gallipoli ended when we dropped the bomb on the Japs. My uncle was there.

"For whom will you be voting then seeing Howard is not an option?

"Peter Costello's done a good job. I won't be votin' for any commo though. They're bastards. Ya get woken up in the middle of the night and everyone's terrified to speak out. There's no freedom!"

"How do you use that freedom to speak out?"

"I don't much but it's nice to have it there just in case. I do go on a footy site where I got freedom to speak out. The Libs are the best, everybody knows that, they just are. The rest of 'em are Woke anyway".

"What is woke".

"It's anything ya don't like. Commo stuff like Medicare and wage rises. Fcukin Nanny State!

TBC.

A Current Affairs Looks at the upcoming Federal Election

ACA- We are down here in the wealthy Southern Highlands of NSW to garner voters opinions

ACA - Good morning sir do you live here
Capitalist Paddo - Not currently but I am building a mega mansion retreat down here currently
ACA - Wow a mega one how can you afford that
Capitalist Paddo - inaudible response at start of the response and my very generous super scheme and accumulated savings
ACA- Oh okay so which party are you leaning towards to vote for in the upcoming Federal Election
Capitalist Paddo - Anyone that will rain in tradies pay and what they charge
ACA - Oh why is that as they can be some of the lowest paid - as even waiters in Sydney Restaurants get paid more and don't need qualifications
Capitalist Paddo - I don't care as I should be charged less for the work they do as even though I can afford it I shouldn't have to pay for it - tax payers should
ACA - Tax Payers? But isn't your super paid for mostly by tax payers
Capitalist Paddo - Yes but I should get a reduction being a retired teacher
ACA - A retired teacher so what did you teach
Capitalist Paddo - History
ACA - I have an interest in history - so how did the Dinosaurs become extinct
Capitalist Paddo - Tradies/ USA /The West/Murdoch/Sky/MSN/Ukraine/Israel/Libs-Nats etc
ACA - But none of these were around then
Capitalist Paddo - Yes they were as I read it on the Menadue and Full Moon over Alabama sites
ACA - ? - I think we should interview someone else

[A Country Member]

I find it amusing that some sections of the immigrant community vote conservative. Whether it be a nod to their home lands standards or the fact that they’re in and don’t want others in to take their opportunities.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Lol that's a mouthful I hope you didn't choke :-))) Actually I'm not rusted on either way . I prefer to vote on the policy's displayed on the day . A former trade unionist that believes in their principle but not necessarily their execution . I sincerely believe Albos gone in this one . Dead man walking here Boss, deeaaaadddd maaaannn walking .....

I think you hit him for 4, possibly 6 there my favourite Chookpen crustacean.

If your opinions "not worth much" I hate to t think what his is worth.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

I find it amusing that some sections of the immigrant community vote conservative. Whether it be a nod to their home lands standards or the fact that they’re in and don’t want others in to take their opportunities.

I'd suggest it's a love of country, vs an undertone of guilt and being unworthy. It's a big motivator of human experience. We all want to feel good about ourselves and that we are part of something bigger.

[Paddo Colt 61]

I find it amusing that some sections of the immigrant community vote conservative. Whether it be a nod to their home lands standards or the fact that they’re in and don’t want others in to take their opportunities.

When you think about it most migrants are here to better their circumstances so are naturally conservative. Add to that the conservatism of religions and culture.

Now, for the first time, we have a migrant Islamic group which is close knit, relatively isolated from the mainstream and not prepared to take the same Aussie racist shit as did the Werris Creeks and the Ities. It will be interesting to see how that vote turns out. The government showed a Murdoch Israeli bias at first and I think that will go against them and rightly so. I hope that the Greens will benefit.

[Random Rooster]

Yes. I remember all the hooha at the time about Hawke and Keating basically implementing Howard’s policies - what Howard wanted to do as treasurer under Fraser. And it was true, there was a big shift in thinking under the Hawke government.

Which of Keatings major policy changes did Howard want to implement as Treasurer? I cant recall any.....but i do know that Peter Costello called John Howard "a failed economic manager."

To quote his exact words "The Howard treasurership was not a success in terms of interest rates and inflation," adding: "He had not been a great reformer."

[Random Rooster]

I find it amusing that some sections of the immigrant community vote conservative. Whether it be a nod to their home lands standards or the fact that they’re in and don’t want others in to take their opportunities.

Like the large Muslim population who dumped Biden for Trump. They were courted by the organisation "Arab Americans for Trump" that rebranded itself following Trump’s comments on displacing Palestinians to “Arab Americans for Peace”. Must be feeling a bit duped id say

[mightyrooster]

Which of Keatings major policy changes did Howard want to implement as Treasurer? I cant recall any.....but i do know that Peter Costello called John Howard "a failed economic manager."

To quote his exact words "The Howard treasurership was not a success in terms of interest rates and inflation," adding: "He had not been a great reformer."

Not sure of the accuracy of it to be honest, but in the previous Fraser government there was a report commissioned into the financial sector recommending the floating of the Australian dollar. Fraser was against it. There were claims Howard was in support of it. Not sure if that is true or a revision of history. However when Hawke and Keating finally went through with it Howard did support it as opposition Treasurer, whereas Peacock was opposed to it. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’ve remembered incorrectly.

Also, funny thing my FIL worked in the cabinet office in the 70’s. He loved to tell the story about when he was told to keep Howard out of the cabinet office when an important meeting was happening. Apparently Howard was none too pleased.

[Random Rooster]

Not sure of the accuracy of it to be honest, but in the previous Fraser government there was a report commissioned into the financial sector recommending the floating of the Australian dollar. Fraser was against it. There were claims Howard was in support of it. Not sure if that is true or a revision of history. However when Hawke and Keating finally went through with it Howard did support it as opposition Treasurer, whereas Peacock was opposed to it. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’ve remembered incorrectly.

Also, funny thing my FIL worked in the cabinet office in the 70’s. He loved to tell the story about when he was told to keep Howard out of the cabinet office when an important meeting was happening. Apparently Howard was none too pleased.

I think you will find as treasurer, John Howard spent years avoiding a decision on the floating of the dollar. He ordered the Campbell report but ignored it.....couldn't even convince his cabinet colleagues of the Campbell Report's value, let alone the rest of the country.

I dont want to Howard bash but when Costello spoke of Howard as a failed treasurer it wasnt without facts. Howard convinced Fraser to end the system that adjusted wages for rising prices, which led to a sharp rise in wages. To lower import prices and control inflation, the government increased the Australian dollar, making local businesses less competitive. As a result, companies closed down, unemployment rose, and investment dropped. In Howards final year as treasurer, the economy shrank by 3% and unemployment went over 10%.

AS PM his gun buy back and strict ownership laws may have seemed a easy decision after the emotion of Port Arthur, but he had the nuts to do it and it has made Australia a better and very safe country. Personally i think it was one of the greatest decisions by a PM in my lifetime

[Paddo Colt 61]

The Right is the most powerful political entity in the West including Australia. It controls our media and can therefore determine the message. It also has formidable financial backing and is more widely united at grass roots by the hip pocket.

Only the Conservatives could have swung the gun laws. Had the ALP been in power, the Tories would have scuttled the plan solely on the basis of denying any win at all to progressives. It was a good reform but it was down to the emotional tsunami which followed Port Arthur before which there had. been no significant gun problem in OZ so the reform looked like a massive thing but really wasn't all that significant, Domestic violence is a far greater challenge and it affects our society much more than did guns back in the day. even the Tories (Nationals) now realise it was overkill and have been vigorously trying to roll it back.

[mightyrooster]

I think you will find as treasurer, John Howard spent years avoiding a decision on the floating of the dollar. He ordered the Campbell report but ignored it.....couldn't even convince his cabinet colleagues of the Campbell Report's value, let alone the rest of the country.

I dont want to Howard bash but when Costello spoke of Howard as a failed treasurer it wasnt without facts. Howard convinced Fraser to end the system that adjusted wages for rising prices, which led to a sharp rise in wages. To lower import prices and control inflation, the government increased the Australian dollar, making local businesses less competitive. As a result, companies closed down, unemployment rose, and investment dropped. In Howards final year as treasurer, the economy shrank by 3% and unemployment went over 10%.

AS PM his gun buy back and strict ownership laws may have seemed a easy decision after the emotion of Port Arthur, but he had the nuts to do it and it has made Australia a better and very safe country. Personally i think it was one of the greatest decisions by a PM in my lifetime

Ah right. I know the condition the Australian economy was in under Howard as treasurer and the amount of debt and unemployment the Fraser govt handed over to Hawke. I just wasn’t sure on the story about who supported the floating of the dollar in the Campbell report. I knew Fraser opposed it but maybe there was some rewriting of history somewhere claiming Howard supported it all along and couldn’t convince Fraser. Either way the floating of the dollar by Keating was a momentous decision and a great one. As an aside, Costello has a reason to bash Howard as treasurer given he never stepped aside to allow him to fulfil his ambitions of becoming PM. Not that Howard achieved anything much as treasurer other than massive debt and unemployment.