The Coming Federal Election.

[Rooster1908]

Now this is a case in point where I disagree with Paddo. Discussing the war in Ukraine in this thread is off topic. But do carry on being a miscreant

It is Andrew .I have only been here 5 years so I'm a newbie but have never seen one topic in any thread not go off topic .It is the way of the pen and to fight that is Ridiculous .if you don't like it ignore it .

[Andrew Walker]

It is Andrew .I have only been here 5 years so I'm a newbie but have never seen one topic in any thread not go off topic .It is the way of the pen and to fight that is Ridiculous .if you don't like it ignore it .

I for years agreed and have said so on many an occasion Ive always liked how threads go off on different tangents. However some posters have complained that it is taking away their enjoyment. In turn sparking what appears to have been a selective crackdown by our moderators on this where certain threads where both you and I went off topic due to differing opinions were closed ( Surely you remember those fun times )

Ive tried very hard to repent reform snd mend my ways Only to see others carry on unchecked with such behaviour We have even had one miscreant here some time back even have the hide to complain about others supposedly hijacking threads

[Rooster1908]

I for years agreed and have said so on many an occasion Ive always liked how threads go off on different tangents. However some posters have complained that it is taking away their enjoyment. In turn sparking what appears to have been a selective crackdown by our moderators on this where certain threads where both you and I went off topic due to differing opinions were closed ( Surely you remember those fun times )

Ive tried very hard to repent reform snd mend my ways Only to see others carry on unchecked with such behaviour We have even had one miscreant here some time back even have the hide to complain about others supposedly hijacking threads

I really don't believe it was the going off topic that got topics closed .More the bullying that encompassed it

[King Salvo]

The conversation is leftist though - far left even.

I am always intrigued about the use of the word "progressives" when it comes to Leftist Political movements and ideology which is based on the failed Marxist-Leninist principles.

Not sure they are aware that under the commo/socialist regimes Women may have been "elected" as delegates to the various commo/socialist councils of delegates from the regions that met annually but men still dominated politically.

At the Twentieth National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in 2023 for an example , not a single woman was elected to the Politburo. Women’s participation in Chinese elite politics has stalled as men continue to dominate political power.

The Politburo is the command headquarters of the Chinese Communist Party

https://www.thechinastory.org/the-co...are-the-women/

In AUS there has been Women in the top Jobs as far as Politics go - PM, State Premiers/ Territory Chief Ministers / Government Ministers - Territory/State and Federal Levels / Governor Generals etc etc

Could you imagine a Woman ever being President of China , Russia or Belarus for that matter. - Absolutely Not.

Even Ukraine had a Woman Prime Minister in Yulia Tymoshenko ( 2005 plus 2007 to 2010)

[Andrew Walker]

I really don't believe it was the going off topic that got topics closed .More the bullying that encompassed it

I suggest you go back through the threads I started that were closed They were closed due to you and I going off topic snd disagreeing

[Rooster1908]

I suggest you go back through the threads I started that were closed They were closed due to you and I going off topic snd disagreeing

Where they but ?

[mightyrooster]

mighty takes the tiller and corrects the course of discussion. Thank you

I also believe that the female and under 35 vote will prove pivotal in the upcoming election. I can’t see either group voting en masse for the conservative side. As noted, the greens and teals will benefit.

I don’t believe there would be anyone on this discussion under 35 and there is only one female that has made it known.

Thanks ACM. I agree.

Paddo, as I’ve said a few times before (sorry Voods if you’re still reading), I am a member of a large parenting / women’s forum. We discuss a range of topics from newborns, parenting, and TV, to socio-economic and international issues, and especially Australian and US politics. The politics thread is very popular. There’s a couple of seniors on the forum aged over 70 and a few in their 20s, but the vast majority of us range from 30’s to late 50’s. Pretty much 99% are left leaning or at the very least are anti Dutton, ScoMo, coalition etc. We all have to struggle with raising families, including some with kids with neurodivergence etc, managing budgets, work / family life balance etc.

I also have 2 Gen Z kids. Both, and most of their peers also dislike the policies of right wing conservatives.

Whether women and those under 30 vote for the ALP is unsure. But the vast majority won’t be voting for Dutton. Many will vote Greens or Teal. This will probably annoy the mostly male, older demographic of the Chookpen, but I’m just giving the alternate view. Women make up a great portion of the vote.

[mightyrooster]

In a sense, Sal is not off topic but it is HIS topic and he's been on it for years now.

Even our fairest of posters, MR, has expressed chagrin and impatience with Sal's tactics, going as far as contemplating ignoring the thread going forward.

Lol, yes thanks Paddo. I have no problem with Salvo putting forward his opinion. It’s what this thread is all about. It’s the Capitalist Paddo this, Capitalist Paddo that which becomes boring when you’ve read the same post 50 times already. I get the joke. But the same joke over and over again loses its impact after a while I think.

[007]

Lol, yes thanks Paddo. I have no problem with Salvo putting forward his opinion. It’s what this thread is all about. It’s the Capitalist Paddo this, Capitalist Paddo that which becomes boring when you’ve read the same post 50 times already. I get the joke. But the same joke over and over again loses its impact after a while I think.

The Hutchinator comes to mind; never had an impact and never did - likewise with Capitalist Paddo.

[Rooster1908]

Thanks ACM. I agree.

Paddo, as I’ve said a few times before (sorry Voods if you’re still reading), I am a member of a large parenting / women’s forum. We discuss a range of topics from newborns, parenting, and TV, to socio-economic and international issues, and especially Australian and US politics. The politics thread is very popular. There’s a couple of seniors on the forum aged over 70 and a few in their 20s, but the vast majority of us range from 30’s to late 50’s. Pretty much 99% are left leaning or at the very least are anti Dutton, ScoMo, coalition etc. We all have to struggle with raising families, including some with kids with neurodivergence etc, managing budgets, work / family life balance etc.

I also have 2 Gen Z kids. Both, and most of their peers also dislike the policies of right wing conservatives.

Whether women and those under 30 vote for the ALP is unsure. But the vast majority won’t be voting for Dutton. Many will vote Greens or Teal. This will probably annoy the mostly male, older demographic of the Chookpen, but I’m just giving the alternate view. Women make up a great portion of the vote.

This is the part I don't understand but am guilty of it myself .The protest vote thing .When we do and as said I have we actually achieve nothing .They just give our vote to someone new didn't want to vote for .System is broken when you can get less votes than the other party and still take home the trophy

[Paddo Colt 61]

Lol, yes thanks Paddo. I have no problem with Salvo putting forward his opinion. It’s what this thread is all about. It’s the Capitalist Paddo this, Capitalist Paddo that which becomes boring when you’ve read the same post 50 times already. I get the joke. But the same joke over and over again loses its impact after a while I think.

Oh yeah!!! Does it ever.

Re women and the coming election, yes they have found their voices - The Teals are one result of that and I guess that our solid ALP government with its impressive female representation is another. It's an amazing turnaround from what prevailed in the past when often hubby decided the family political line and, courtesy of Packer's Womens Weekly, females admired Lib politicians. At the time it was because the Lib families presented in the magazine were prosperous and seemed nice people. Labor families never featured, and the perception was created in the magazine that ALP politicians were crude, rough hewn, dishonest, unattractive and generally undesirable.

A famous election ad in the 50s had an attractive young woman at the beach saying that she'd be voting for "Mr. Menzies because he has such a lovely speaking voice." Such was the level of female involvement which, when you think of it was not a lot more infantile than hubby's opinion, after all we had the same totally biased msm and working class blokes read the Tele, The Sun and the Mirror. The SMH was the choice of the bourgeoisie. It was easily spread out at home during a leisurely breakfast but not so easily in a train en route to the factory. Besides, it was written for Reading Age 12.5 years compared to the others' 10.4 years so was considered high brow and had little appeal to the average poorly educated worker.

All of that persists to this day but women are far more involved now, just look at female representation.

[mightyrooster]

This is the part I don't understand but am guilty of it myself .The protest vote thing .When we do and as said I have we actually achieve nothing .They just give our vote to someone new didn't want to vote for .System is broken when you can get less votes than the other party and still take home the trophy

The feeling I get is most will vote ALP or Greens or Teals. It’s a matter of which one. It’s not a protest vote as such as most just don’t like Dutton as he’s too far to the right. Other Liberal candidates who are more moderate would be seen differently.

[Crab]

The feeling I get is most will vote ALP or Greens or Teals. It’s a matter of which one. It’s not a protest vote as such as most just don’t like Dutton as he’s too far to the right. Other Liberal candidates who are more moderate would be seen differently.

It sounds like 'Handsome man' Anthony has it in the bag then ?

[King Salvo]

Thanks ACM. I agree.

Paddo, as I’ve said a few times before (sorry Voods if you’re still reading), I am a member of a large parenting / women’s forum. We discuss a range of topics from newborns, parenting, and TV, to socio-economic and international issues, and especially Australian and US politics. The politics thread is very popular. There’s a couple of seniors on the forum aged over 70 and a few in their 20s, but the vast majority of us range from 30’s to late 50’s. Pretty much 99% are left leaning or at the very least are anti Dutton, ScoMo, coalition etc. We all have to struggle with raising families, including some with kids with neurodivergence etc, managing budgets, work / family life balance etc.

I also have 2 Gen Z kids. Both, and most of their peers also dislike the policies of right wing conservatives.

Whether women and those under 30 vote for the ALP is unsure. But the vast majority won’t be voting for Dutton. Many will vote Greens or Teal. This will probably annoy the mostly male, older demographic of the Chookpen, but I’m just giving the alternate view. Women make up a great portion of the vote.

In both Lib's/Nats and Labor there are are right and left wing and centralists (centre left or centre right) factions

Unless one is in Pete's electorate then folk won't be voting for him - Nothing wrong with Pete

Not a great range of diverse discussions and views then if 99% have the same views on Politics though whether leftists or leftist learning.

mmm maybe these kids were influenced by their parents or brainwashed by leftists ideology

Not sure what you mean with the statement ' We all have to struggle to raise families including some kids with neurodivergence etc. managing work/family life balances etc" - Do you think only leftists have this problem?.

Mrs Salvo is a staunch Libs/Nats supporter who would never vote Labor as, despite being born and raised in the Soviet Union, she had more than enough of the Marxist - Leninism ideology which leftists believe in as it was literally forced upon them on a daily basis, whether on State Run TV, Propaganda Posters or in School plus University/College - never ending Anti West. Anti Capitalist , Anti US etc etc

The problem with leftists and leftist leaning folk in western countries as can be demonstrated on here is the contradiction - they see no problem is accumulating wealth under the Wests Capitalist System although the Marxism-Leninism ideology they believe in is Anti Capitalist.

Leftists want to have their cake and to eat it too which was aptly described in Pink Floyd's Money Song

Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash

Money, get back
I'm alright, Jack, keep your hands off of my stack

[King Salvo]

Lol, yes thanks Paddo. I have no problem with Salvo putting forward his opinion. It’s what this thread is all about. It’s the Capitalist Paddo this, Capitalist Paddo that which becomes boring when you’ve read the same post 50 times already. I get the joke. But the same joke over and over again loses its impact after a while I think.

Why though as he is a contradiction as all Leftists still residing in the West are - They don't mind accumulating wealth but the Ideology they believe in - Marxist - Leninism is Anti Capitalist.

His anti west /capitalism diatribe is really just for show. - If for real he would leave the West.

I have no problem in him calling us Pro West Capitalist Sheepies as well all know who the real Sheepies are - Leftists