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  • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post


    I was amazed at your having ten siblings Sal. Mum must have been superwoman, I found two trying. But the Child Endowment payments were quite generous which would have helped enormously. I think you'll find that Labor-on initiated those payments. No wonder you had a top of the range Valiant. Must have been the envy of the street. Or did you have no neighbours, living on acreage? Small wonder that you were so defensive of the Lion of Bligh St - gotta make a living eh? All on the public tit like those teachers who've got it so good.

    11 kids? Sounds Catholic and that explains a great deal. I'm still calling Opus Dei.
    Nope Child Endowment was introduced by the Menzies Government in 1941 - see below the chart of payments - oldest Brother was born in 1948.

    The big thing was our Father's LAWHA ( Living away from home allowance) - As I said after he came back from WW2 ( Fought in North Africa/Lebanon-Syria/ PNG and Borneo) he got a job in the PMG( later became Telecom) working his way up to be a senior line inspector (telephone cables) up and down the East Coast. Would have been a fair payment the LAWHA even back then - tax free I assume

    Half of us born in Ballarat then the other half of us born in Guyra ( me as well) - I don't remember Guyra at all but it does snow there and some decent falls.

    Nope not Catholic either - Church of England

    Came to Campbelltown after Guyra - property is on 995 square metres - not much around back then - mainly soldier settlement properties in our street and across the road a sizeable dairy farm we used to get milk and what not from until compulsory acquired by the Gough Whitlam Government I understand.

    Our Father and Mother knew Gough Whitlam quite well from the RSL Sub branch meetings and annual conferences. Gough even came to our house a few times - All I remember was a tall person and not much else from his visits and no clue who he was being a youngster - he wasn't PM at that time.

    A Soldier settlement property on our street - 2300 square metres sold for 2.6 million in 2016 - Whoever bought it had 6 double story 4 bedroom town houses built on it it - each one sold for 1,095 million - that property when sold previous was sold for 120k back in 1999.

    When our Mother passed away Mrs Salvo and I purchased the family property for 260k in 2011 - we wanted to buy our Uncles (our Fathers Brother ) property in Ballarat in 2008 but didn't have the money and no others wanted to buy in to purchase it as we spent many a holiday down in that house and it was used in a McDonalds Advertisement - the elderly bowlers one - Female and Male

    We got 3 quotes for the Campbelltown Family Home and all agreed on the price and signed the agreement - most expensive properties of ones we own - cheapest one the apartment in Ukraine ( Chernivtsi) where Mrs Salvo lived with 11 others during the Soviet Union time

    We purchased it from Mrs Salvo's parents when they moved to Russia when her Father's Father passed away - As I said he was a Political Commissar in WW2/Great Patriotic War and was given the house -also NKVD and then KGB - It always used to bother me the evening toasts to Lenin and Stalin - Mrs Salvo always begged me not to say anything.

    He did admit once that Stalin did the things that Khrushchev denounced him for but things had to be done to modernise the Soviet Union - I said in our country folk would be paid for it/ defined working hours/absences from work and leave conditions and days off etc/ provided with the proper equipment/ clothed / fed and sheltered etc in undertaking such work etc.

    Child Endowment was a non-means tested, universal allowance introduced by the Commonwealth government in 1941. The Child Endowment Act 1941 provided that a sum of 5 shillings per week, for each child after the first under the age of 16 years, be paid directly to the mother
    Table 1: Family allowance weekly rates - July 1941 to June 1976

    See the link for better payment charts



    The table shows the rates in dollars per week (pw).

    Kids - columns 1 to 5 +
    01/07/1941 - 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50
    26/06/1945 - 0.75 0.75 0.75 0.75
    09/11/1948 - 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
    20/06/1950 0.50 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
    14/01/1964 0.50 1.00 1.50 1.50 1.50
    19/09/1967 0.50 1.00 1.50 1.75 2.00
    12/10/1971 0.50 1.00 2.00 2.25 2.50
    Note A
    15/06/1976 3.50 5.00 6.00 6.00 7.00
    Table 2: Family allowance monthly rates - May 1979 to October 1982


    This table shows the rates in dollars per month. Where rates changed, the first payment at the new rate was made on the family allowance payday after the date shown.

    Kids columns 1 to 5 +
    15/05/1979 15.20 21.70 26.00 26.00 30.35
    15/12/1981 15.20 21.70 39.00 39.00 45.55
    15/10/1982 22.80 32.55 39.00 39.00 45.55
    https://guides.dss.gov.au/social-sec...guide/5/2/4/10
    Last edited by King Salvo; 03-06-2025, 01:37 AM.

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    • Originally posted by King Salvo View Post

      Nope Child Endowment was introduced by the Menzies Government in 1941 - see below the chart of payments - oldest Brother was born in 1948.

      The big thing was our Father's LAWHA ( Living away from home allowance) - As I said after he came back from WW2 ( Fought in North Africa/Lebanon-Syria/ PNG and Borneo) he got a job in the PMG( later became Telecom) working his way up to be a senior line inspector (telephone cables) up and down the East Coast. Would have been a fair payment the LAWHA even back then - tax free I assume

      Half of us born in Ballarat then the other half of us born in Guyra ( me as well) - I don't remember Guyra at all but it does snow there and some decent falls.

      Nope not Catholic either - Church of England

      Came to Campbelltown after Guyra - property is on 995 square metres - not much around back then - mainly soldier settlement properties in our street and across the road a sizeable dairy farm we used to get milk and what not from until compulsory acquired by the Gough Whitlam Government I understand.

      Our Father and Mother knew Gough Whitlam quite well from the RSL Sub branch meetings and annual conferences. Gough even came to our house a few times - All I remember was a tall person and not much else from his visits and no clue who he was being a youngster - he wasn't PM at that time.

      A Soldier settlement property on our street - 2300 square metres sold for 2.6 million in 2016 - Whoever bought it had 6 double story 4 bedroom town houses built on it it - each one sold for 1,095 million - that property when sold previous was sold for 120k back in 1999.

      When our Mother passed away Mrs Salvo and I purchased the family property for 260k in 2011 - we wanted to buy our Uncles (our Fathers Brother ) property in Ballarat in 2008 but didn't have the money and no others wanted to buy in to purchase it as we spent many a holiday down in that house and it was used in a McDonalds Advertisement - the elderly bowlers one - Female and Male

      We got 3 quotes for the Campbelltown Family Home and all agreed on the price and signed the agreement - most expensive properties of ones we own - cheapest one the apartment in Ukraine ( Chernivtsi) where Mrs Salvo lived with 11 others during the Soviet Union time

      We purchased it from Mrs Salvo's parents when they moved to Russia when her Father's Father passed away - As I said he was a Political Commissar in WW2/Great Patriotic War and was given the house -also NKVD and then KGB - It always used to bother me the evening toasts to Lenin and Stalin - Mrs Salvo always begged me not to say anything.

      He did admit once that Stalin did the things that Khrushchev denounced him for but things had to be done to modernise the Soviet Union - I said in our country folk would be paid for it/ defined working hours/absences from work and leave conditions and days off etc/ provided with the proper equipment/ clothed / fed and sheltered etc in undertaking such work etc.

      Child Endowment was a non-means tested, universal allowance introduced by the Commonwealth government in 1941. The Child Endowment Act 1941 provided that a sum of 5 shillings per week, for each child after the first under the age of 16 years, be paid directly to the mother
      Table 1: Family allowance weekly rates - July 1941 to June 1976

      See the link for better payment charts



      The table shows the rates in dollars per week (pw).

      Kids - columns 1 to 5 +
      01/07/1941 - 0.50 0.50 0.50 0.50
      26/06/1945 - 0.75 0.75 0.75 0.75
      09/11/1948 - 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
      20/06/1950 0.50 1.00 1.00 1.00 1.00
      14/01/1964 0.50 1.00 1.50 1.50 1.50
      19/09/1967 0.50 1.00 1.50 1.75 2.00
      12/10/1971 0.50 1.00 2.00 2.25 2.50
      Note A
      15/06/1976 3.50 5.00 6.00 6.00 7.00
      Table 2: Family allowance monthly rates - May 1979 to October 1982


      This table shows the rates in dollars per month. Where rates changed, the first payment at the new rate was made on the family allowance payday after the date shown.

      Kids columns 1 to 5 +
      15/05/1979 15.20 21.70 26.00 26.00 30.35
      15/12/1981 15.20 21.70 39.00 39.00 45.55
      15/10/1982 22.80 32.55 39.00 39.00 45.55
      https://guides.dss.gov.au/social-sec...guide/5/2/4/10
      Walls of text, surely no one reads this.

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      • Mmmm....very detailed account.

        Following the Libs election win in 1949. Menzies retained, for the most part, the post war reconstruction plan commissioned by the ALP and administered by Nugget Coombs. You don't think that Menzies had Child Endowment ready to go just weeks after the election?

        In fact he kept on most of the reforms for the 23 year duration except for rationing. Despite Labor's impressive post war social democratic plan, the Sheeple went big on the Libs promise to end rationing forgetting completely about anything else. Ending rationing was reckless, encouraging inflation and by 1960 that had come home to roost.

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        • I think my "protest" vote will go to a minor party.

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          • What are you protesting about? Please look at my post at #1. There is a list of ALP accomplishments in 3 years. Which of them disappoints you?

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            • to paraphrase goehring - hey, this is the internet - whenever i hear the word 'woke' i want to get my gun.
              these new words pop up and their definitions aren't clear. better to argue for policies that are good and smart and against those that are bad and dumb.
              what's 'woke'? was changing to 'ms' rather than 'mrs and miss' woke? probably, and it was sensible. is highlighting the gap between aboriginal and non-aboriginal australians woke? probably, and it's sensible.
              no doubt there are a lot of dumb things which are woke but they're good to oppose cos they're dumb, not because they're woke

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              • Indeed Caz but "woke" is a right wing construct, easily understood only by those with a political axe to grind or by whinging simpletons.

                I watched a doco a few years back re the Argentine financial crisis of 2001. Workers in a closed down factory defied the decision and took over the running of the business. A worker meeting took place after a weekend election in which the party responsible for the crisis was standing. The plant workers were assembled and the Chairman, fuming at the election result, asked if anyone present had voted for the Tories. One guy put up his hand and when the incredulous strike leader asked why, the guy says "Because they said that we'd all now have to get off our arses and work harder for the country".

                We have such mugs in profusion, just have a look at the FB comments on matters political. Wall to wall morons.
                Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 03-06-2025, 05:26 PM.

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                • Originally posted by caz View Post
                  to paraphrase goehring - hey, this is the internet - whenever i hear the word 'woke' i want to get my gun.
                  these new words pop up and their definitions aren't clear. better to argue for policies that are good and smart and against those that are bad and dumb.
                  what's 'woke'? was changing to 'ms' rather than 'mrs and miss' woke? probably, and it was sensible. is highlighting the gap between aboriginal and non-aboriginal australians woke? probably, and it's sensible.
                  no doubt there are a lot of dumb things which are woke but they're good to oppose cos they're dumb, not because they're woke
                  Couldn’t agree more zac. Sort of ties in with my woke rant up thread.

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                  • Ahh yes, the self-appointed party of the working man with the leader showing the way. I mean, who would give up attending a fundraiser at Hemmes 100 million dollar mansion, to stay home in the face of an approaching cyclone? Maybe its all propaganda from the Australian Financial Review? Then again the Libs leaders do have a history of doing the Harold Holt in the wake of an imminent natural disaster....." i dont hold a hose, mate"





                    Dutton pulls out of fundraisers a day after leaving Queensland for billionaire’s event

                    SMH. Updated March 6, 2025—5.07 pm first published at 12.35pm

                    Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has pulled out of two Liberal Party events in Melbourne, a day after it was reported he left Queensland for a lavish fundraiser in Sydney as Cyclone Alfred approached his hometown of Brisbane.

                    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese pledged $1 million in recovery grants to every local council affected by Cyclone Alfred on Thursday, but stayed above the fray as his ministers lashed Dutton’s decision.

                    The Australian Financial Review revealed on Wednesday that Dutton had attended a party fundraiser hosted by billionaire pub-and-club boss Justin Hemmes on Tuesday, triggering criticism from senior Labor ministers who questioned Dutton’s judgement.

                    As the category 2 storm, which is due to make landfall either late Friday or early Saturday morning, approaches the coast, the chances of an election being called this weekend to be held on April 12 are receding, according to Labor strategists.

                    Dutton had been due to attend two events in Melbourne, a Liberal business network evening fundraiser on Wednesday and then a lunch with members of the Pharmacy Guild and other businesses from the health sector on Thursday.

                    The Wednesday evening event was to be held between 5pm and 7pm and offered a “briefing with the Hon Peter Dutton MP” for the “Australian Business Network”, which is a Liberal Party fundraising vehicle.

                    But at 1pm on Tuesday – before the Hemmes fundraiser took place – a staff member from the Liberal Party wrote to attendees that the Wednesday event had been cancelled “due to unforeseen circumstances”.

                    Contacted on Thursday afternoon, a spokesman for Dutton said only that “he is in Brisbane” and declined to say why he had decided not to attend the Liberal Party fundraisers.

                    The AFR reported on Thursday that Dutton also attended a lunch in Sydney, before the Hemmes fundraiser, at the residence of a Greek Orthodox bishop, with the event organised by Fouad Deiri, a property developer who is chairman of the DeiGroup.

                    A spokesman for Dutton said “the event you refer to was not a fundraising event, it was a luncheon meeting with Antiochian Archdiocese Church representatives and no other political donors were present”.











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                    • Haha.. good ol Channel 9 newspapers. Fiercely loyal, not necessarily to the truth.
                      #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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                      • Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post
                        Haha.. good ol Channel 9 newspapers. Fiercely loyal, not necessarily to the truth.
                        Prepare the hangman. Peter Dutton has committed the crime of good time management. What should he do different?

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                        • Well said Barren and also do you realise that by going to Vaucluse for a party he was closer to that Chinese warship action. Jaxie would applaud that, the strong man out on the jetty at the Hermitage. Have yez ever seen the estate? Takes up most of Hermitage Point - that's the community the Libs represent, not ol' Jaxie and his ilk out at Guildford, Them and the 40% of gooses who live in safe ALP zones but vote Tory. Thems that earn peanuts, but are happy for the boss and pine for the days when knighthoods were common and they had people to look up to. Remember not so long back when the Libs would shower knighthoods on the rich every year?

                          But I digress, the Wolf probably chose to camp out on the jetty. After all, submarines have snuck in before. At the first indication of a periscope breaking the surface off Neilson Park, ol' Dutts, ever the copper, would be in the drink, knife between his teeth, swimming stealthily but determinedly towards the enemy.

                          There are now reports that Little Davey Sharma and other Libs have made hay on the stockmarket following Lib financial assistance decisions in the past. Who's gonna believe that? The Libs just have money making in their DNA, get used to it! I dunno, the politics of envy - get over it, as Honest John used to say.
                          Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 03-07-2025, 01:00 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                            Well said Barren and also by going to Vaucluse for a party he was closer to those Chinese warships. Jaxie would applaud that, the strong man out on the jetty at the Hermitage. Have yez ever seen the estate? Takes up most of Hermitage Point - that's the community the Libs represent, not ol' Jaxie and his ilk out at Guildford, Them and the 40% of gooses who live in safe ALP zones but vote Tory. Thems that earn peanuts, but are happy for the boss and pine for the days when knighthoods were common.

                            But I digress, the Wolf probably wanted to camp out on the jetty. After all, submarines have snuck in before. At the first indication of a periscope breaking the surface, ol' Dutts, ever the copper, would be in the drink, knife between his teeth.

                            There are now reports that Little Davey Sharma and other Libs have made hay on the stockmarket following Lib financial assistance decisions in the past. Who's gonna believe that? The Libs just have money making in their DNA. I dunno, the politics of envy - get over it as Honest John used to say.
                            Shouldn't you be more sympathetic to those in the Western Suburbs as a leftie? Do you share the spirit of the proletariat or condemn them?

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                            • Libs have always kept the money quiet. Only since Howard has there been a switch to a US style glorification of wealth. In the past the well off resided on peninsulas or in places away from the beaten track which wouldn't be seen unless one was going there. In that way it was thought that the mugs wouldn't jerry to the idea that we weren't "all the same, all equal", or that Monty at Palm Beach had different priorities to Maverick and Destiny out at Spring Farm Parkway. Mind you, if Maverick was a tradie the priority would coincide - get rich quick by any means necessary.

                              Turned me off watching that 50000 crowd in Vegas living it up. A lot of tradies there getting rid of the cashola, a pretty much annual exercise as you'd know, Vegas, then onto Disneyland with their gaggle of horribles - Jay- Den, Prairie, Halcyon, Aurora and Horizon. Good luck to 'em.

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                              • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
                                Ahh yes, the self-appointed party of the working man with the leader showing the way. I mean, who would give up attending a fundraiser at Hemmes 100 million dollar mansion, to stay home in the face of an approaching cyclone? Maybe its all propaganda from the Australian Financial Review? Then again the Libs leaders do have a history of doing the Harold Holt in the wake of an imminent natural disaster....." i dont hold a hose, mate"





                                Dutton pulls out of fundraisers a day after leaving Queensland for billionaire’s event

                                SMH. Updated March 6, 2025—5.07 pm first published at 12.35pm

                                Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has pulled out of two Liberal Party events in Melbourne, a day after it was reported he left Queensland for a lavish fundraiser in Sydney as Cyclone Alfred approached his hometown of Brisbane.

                                Prime Minister Anthony Albanese pledged $1 million in recovery grants to every local council affected by Cyclone Alfred on Thursday, but stayed above the fray as his ministers lashed Dutton’s decision.

                                The Australian Financial Review revealed on Wednesday that Dutton had attended a party fundraiser hosted by billionaire pub-and-club boss Justin Hemmes on Tuesday, triggering criticism from senior Labor ministers who questioned Dutton’s judgement.

                                As the category 2 storm, which is due to make landfall either late Friday or early Saturday morning, approaches the coast, the chances of an election being called this weekend to be held on April 12 are receding, according to Labor strategists.

                                Dutton had been due to attend two events in Melbourne, a Liberal business network evening fundraiser on Wednesday and then a lunch with members of the Pharmacy Guild and other businesses from the health sector on Thursday.

                                The Wednesday evening event was to be held between 5pm and 7pm and offered a “briefing with the Hon Peter Dutton MP” for the “Australian Business Network”, which is a Liberal Party fundraising vehicle.

                                But at 1pm on Tuesday – before the Hemmes fundraiser took place – a staff member from the Liberal Party wrote to attendees that the Wednesday event had been cancelled “due to unforeseen circumstances”.

                                Contacted on Thursday afternoon, a spokesman for Dutton said only that “he is in Brisbane” and declined to say why he had decided not to attend the Liberal Party fundraisers.

                                The AFR reported on Thursday that Dutton also attended a lunch in Sydney, before the Hemmes fundraiser, at the residence of a Greek Orthodox bishop, with the event organised by Fouad Deiri, a property developer who is chairman of the DeiGroup.

                                A spokesman for Dutton said “the event you refer to was not a fundraising event, it was a luncheon meeting with Antiochian Archdiocese Church representatives and no other political donors were present”.










                                You are confused still the party of the working man was Marxist-Leninist Laboring on until they turned capitalist under Hawke and Keating and become Libertarian Laboring on.

                                You are Libertarian centrist

                                Will your Libertarian Laboring on Government be introducing another flood levy tax though like old Swanny did and only for Qld - Floods in NSW didn't get s cent of the levy - 0.5% up to 1.00 % - mmm I wonder why - NSW had a State Liberal Government perhaps

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