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  • Originally posted by Carlos Parra View Post
    Someone said on page one that they were certain I'd be voting liberal.

    Well done!

    There's no way I could vote for speech-impeded, spittle-flecked liar like Albanese.

    $150 off my soaring power bills ain't gonna do it.
    And no way he ever has voted other than right wing (LNP), he's a Tradie after all and mum and tradie dad doubtless hated Whitlam's guts. His is a forlorn cry from out west, that he and his are special and unlike those around him. He dreams, much like Jax, of a future living in Wentworth among those more his spiritual kinsmen and he never makes a case for why the ALP has been such an anathema to him.

    No doubt he subscribes to the "are you better off?" bullshit line and thinks it's a winner. It's a bullshit question aimed at those (and there are plenty of them) unable or too lazy to think. Ross Gittings explains:

    For a start, it’s completely self-centred. Focus on what’s happened to you and your family and forget about what’s happened to anyone else.

    Similarly, the implication is to focus on the monetary side of life. Forget about what’s happened to the natural environment, what we’ve done to limit climate change, and what we’ve done about intergenerational equity – the way we rigged the system to favour the elderly at the expense of the young.

    Next, Dutton’s question is quite subjective. He’s not asking us to do some calculations about our household budget or to look up some statistics, just to say whether we feel better or worse off.

    Guess what? This subjectivity makes us more likely to answer no. As we’ve learnt from the psychologists, humans have evolved to remember bad events more strongly than good events.

    This is why most people believe inflation is much higher than the consumer price index tells us. As they do their weekly grocery shopping, they remember the price rises much more clearly than any price drops. And in the personal CPI they carry in their heads, they take no account of the many prices that didn’t change – which they should, and the real CPI does.

    Humans find the bad more interesting and memorable than the good because the bad is more threatening, and we have evolved to search our environment for threats.

    In this case, however, objective measurement confirms that most people are right in thinking their household budgets are harder to balance than they were three years ago. There are various ways to measure living standards, but probably the best single measure is something called “real net national household disposable income per person”.

    Between June 2022 and March 2024 (the latest quarter available), it fell by 3.6%. It may have recovered a bit in the 12 months since then, but not by enough to stop it having fallen overall.

    But that’s just an economy-wide average. We can break it down into more specific household categories. Those dependent on income from wages are worse off because consumer prices rose a little faster than wages – though wage rises fell well short of price rises in the couple of years before Labor came to power. This is a shortfall wage-earning households would still be feeling in their efforts to balance their budgets.

    The rise in interest rates since the last election means the households feeling by far the most pain over the past three years are those with mortgages.

    This also means those who own their homes outright have felt the least pain. Most people on the age pension have done OK because most of them own their homes and the age pension is fully indexed to the rise in consumer prices.

    As for the so-called self-funded retirees, they’ve been laughing. Not only do they own their homes, their super and other investments earn more when interest rates are high.

    True, it’s common for elections to be used to sack governments who’ve presided over tough economic times. Be in power during a recession and you’re dead meat. So elections are often used to punish governments, on the rationale that the other lot couldn’t possibly be worse.

    But the side that benefits from such circumstances, taking over when everything’s a mess, won’t have it easy getting everyone back to work and having no trouble with the mortgage in just three years.

    I can remember when the Morrison Government was tossed out in 2022, smarties among the Liberals telling themselves this probably wasn’t a bad election to lose. Why? Because they could see consumer prices had taken off and had further to go. Using higher interest rates t



    Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 04-04-2025, 04:20 PM.

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    • This is what sets us apart from the USA. They will go after each other politically without getting too personal, and both will accept the election results unconditionally, whatever the outcome.









      Sydney Morning Herald and Age photographer James Brickwood captured the moment the two leaders came across each other at the Blacktown Workers’ Club earlier today – the first time their paths have crossed since the election was called last week. He describes it as an amicable interaction.

      “Albanese put his hand out to Dutton as he walked past,” Brickwood says. “It’s always amicable between those two when it’s one on one, similar to when they’re in parliament and shake hands across the aisle.”



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      • better than when latham met howard

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        • These times of uncertainty will favour the ALP. The sheeple tend to stick with the encumbent when the frighteners are on. The Great Depression started with nations building trade walls, depending on how long this lasts, the world is in for a rough trot. My impression is that he is wanting to scrap Globalism replacing it with a new global trade paradigm controlled by and favourable to the US and from that point, attempt to stymie China. It is naked power.

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          • it's close and could go either way but i'd back labor to be in a position to form government at this stage. we don't normally throw governments out after one term

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            • $3.70 seems generous to me- it will be a lot closer than what this market suggests. Worth a wager

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              • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
                $3.70 seems generous to me- it will be a lot closer than what this market suggests. Worth a wager
                the more you wager the more you lose

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                • Originally posted by caz View Post

                  the more you wager the more you lose
                  but you win some!!

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                  • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

                    but you win some!!
                    haha, yeah, you can get some back

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                    • I can never get used to how many mugs here feel free to express their political opinions. Talk about follow the Sky leader and half of 'em got the arse out of their strides. How many of the fcukers sold their souls to Trumpism? Might they tell us how they now feel about their Super gains over the last year being wiped away? - lookin at you '08, Carlotta, Jaxie and the new fool Barren.

                      Cruisin' to victory in the Trump slipstream seemed a real possibility before things went pear shaped. That old rich, fat twat from Qld sought to send a subliminal message to the mugs with his TRUMPet of Patriots. Good luck with that now, another $50mil done.

                      Everywhere, the Libs are on the nose and it's gonna get worse - looks like the shadow treasurer and Barnaby rorted the Murray-Darling arrangements to the tune of $80 mil of taxpayer money. How greedy is Angus? He already made 70mil from his fortuitous land purchase at Badgeries, this latest "windfall" was water that didn't exist sold to the Lib government which didn't check apparently. Must have divided up. Wonder if News will give them the Eddie Obeid treatment?

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                      • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                        I can never get used to how many mugs here feel free to express their political opinions. Talk about follow the Sky leader and half of 'em got the arse out of their strides. How many of the fcukers sold their souls to Trumpism? Might they tell us how they now feel about their Super gains over the last year being wiped away? - lookin at you '08, Carlotta, Jaxie and the new fool Barren.

                        Cruisin' to victory in the Trump slipstream seemed a real possibility before things went pear shaped. That old rich, fat twat from Qld sought to send a subliminal message to the mugs with his TRUMPet of Patriots. Good luck with that now, another $50mil done.

                        Everywhere, the Libs are on the nose and it's gonna get worse - looks like the shadow treasurer and Barnaby rorted the Murray-Darling arrangements to the tune of $80 mil of taxpayer money. How greedy is Angus? He already made 70mil from his fortuitous land purchase at Badgeries, this latest "windfall" was water that didn't exist sold to the Lib government which didn't check apparently. Must have divided up. Wonder if News will give them the Eddie Obeid treatment?
                        Are you the Unabomber? Get a life you deranged idiot.

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                        • Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View Post
                          I can never get used to how many mugs here feel free to express their political opinions. Talk about follow the Sky leader and half of 'em got the arse out of their strides. How many of the fcukers sold their souls to Trumpism? Might they tell us how they now feel about their Super gains over the last year being wiped away? - lookin at you '08, Carlotta, Jaxie and the new fool Barren.

                          Cruisin' to victory in the Trump slipstream seemed a real possibility before things went pear shaped. That old rich, fat twat from Qld sought to send a subliminal message to the mugs with his TRUMPet of Patriots. Good luck with that now, another $50mil done.

                          Everywhere, the Libs are on the nose and it's gonna get worse - looks like the shadow treasurer and Barnaby rorted the Murray-Darling arrangements to the tune of $80 mil of taxpayer money. How greedy is Angus? He already made 70mil from his fortuitous land purchase at Badgeries, this latest "windfall" was water that didn't exist sold to the Lib government which didn't check apparently. Must have divided up. Wonder if News will give them the Eddie Obeid treatment?
                          What are you mentioning me for .I dispise trump and always have .

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                          • Sorry '08 should've checked. I can be careless with the slur at times. But I'm in high spirits having just watched the great win so I'm willing to concede this time- Glory Glory to Trent!!
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                            • Watching Russian TV the AUS election doesn't rate a mention and only Trump does - All about Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin's vision for Russia

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                              • From what I've learned of the man via Professor Sachs I'm sure it would be in Russia's interests. He's stared down and foiled the USA. Alas at a cost to ordinary people who had a Fascist cabal foisted on them.

                                And Jeez..watching Russian news and expecting the Australian election to be mentioned? I mean ground control to Major King".
                                Last edited by Paddo Colt 61; 04-12-2025, 12:24 AM.

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