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  • #91
    Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post

    Very true. Warren Buffett once said "In short, bad news is an investor's best friend. It lets you buy a slice of America's future at a marked-down price." However when to catch a very sharp falling knife is a very hard decision to make. Buffett also said "Only buy something that you’d be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years." Great advice but only a very small percentage of people can afford to sit on the nest for 10 years.

    There is a winner and loser when it comes to these sort of situations. The rich getting richer, the poor get the picture- Read About It!
    I think this is true for things like bluechip shares and property. For example I just bought another investment property because it's currently a buyer's market and it's likely that interest rates are gonna go down.

    Similarly I hate Swasticars and am somewhat satisfied seeing a combo of other EVs gaining popularity and investor sentiment swinging away from them . Does a 15% dip in one day mean they're scr3wed though? Absolutely not. They're here to stay and investors will ride them much further down before they start buying again.

    THAT SAID... this doesn't mean that economic chaos is a good thing. A return to inflation is gonna cost me on a daily basis whether I like it or not. Also self-funded retirees whose money is in managed funds (e.g. my mum) might not have another 10-20 years to wait it out until things get better.

    The maxim relies on people having lotsa cash in the bank to opportunistically throw at good deals when everybody else is forced to sell under duress. In practice, people are generally selling at a loss because they need to liquify their investments so that they can pay the bills. It's a nice theory that if they were smarter they wouldn't have to do this (and sure - some people are just dumb so sell everything at a loss as soon as there's a whiff of panic, thus crystalising their losses instead of being able to make their $$$ back once an event like COVID or Trump's presidency is over). But in most cases, people selling at a loss suggests that there's financial duress. This is when the vultures are able to feed on the less fortunate.
    Last edited by ism22; 04-08-2025, 08:34 AM.

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    • #92
      yeah, the idea that this is in any way good is doubtful. the administration gives conflicting messages of what the end game is. is it to extract concessions from trading partners or is it to re-establish manufacturing in america?
      it's a shakespearian tale of cocky hubris, of a bloke believing his own bs

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      • #93
        The ASX200 bounced back a bit today.

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        • #94
          But has gone straight back down again today. It’s all very the place at the moment.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post
            But has gone straight back down again today. It’s all very the place at the moment.
            Just like my super balance dipped again from yesterday.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by horrie hastings View Post

              Just like my super balance dipped again from yesterday.
              It must be so annoying for you Horrie.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by mightyrooster View Post

                It must be so annoying for you Horrie.
                It is a bit, it bounced back after the GFC and also after Covid but i can't see it bouncing back to where it was by the time i pull the pin on work this year.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by caz View Post
                  yeah, the idea that this is in any way good is doubtful. the administration gives conflicting messages of what the end game is. is it to extract concessions from trading partners or is it to re-establish manufacturing in america?
                  it's a shakespearian tale of cocky hubris, of a bloke believing his own bs
                  IMO it's for 2 things...

                  1. To massage Trump's ego. He has NFI and is happy to be a clown as he likes making bold moves that attract attention. That's all he wants though... attention.

                  2. Various US businesses that are thinking about their profits rather than the economy wanna block out competitors. They've lobbied for this (using the silly story that bringing manufacturing jobs to the USA [will never happen] is a good thing). They know it's not. However when their businesses involve things like mining metals, selling food/livestock and making computer parts in automated facilities without any staff then they're set to profit if you block overseas sellers from the market.

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                  • #99
                    First it was the US taking aim at Canada and Mexico, then it was US against Europe and now its the US vs China.

                    We will be getting some of the backwash but we are so very lucky to be living in Australia. While the world is turning into one big toilet my main concern is the Roosters making unforced errors!

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                    • Originally posted by Random Rooster View Post
                      First it was the US taking aim at Canada and Mexico, then it was US against Europe and now its the US vs China.

                      We will be getting some of the backwash but we are so very lucky to be living in Australia. While the world is turning into one big toilet my main concern is the Roosters making unforced errors!
                      Yeah what do the Roosters and the Daaanld have in common?

                      Unforced errors. Sigh...

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                      • it's a shambles. as much as you applaud this pause in tariffs, it makes planning for business and governments more difficult. how can they know what's going on when it's clear trump is making it up as he goes along.
                        not only does he support america first it seems like he supports america only.
                        a big shout out to the huge tariffs he'd placed on vietnam. next he'll be demanding they pay compensation for any money made from selling off old unexploded bombs for scrap metal.

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                        • Originally posted by caz View Post
                          it's a shambles. as much as you applaud this pause in tariffs, it makes planning for business and governments more difficult. how can they know what's going on when it's clear trump is making it up as he goes along.
                          not only does he support america first it seems like he supports america only.
                          a big shout out to the huge tariffs he'd placed on vietnam. next he'll be demanding they pay compensation for any money made from selling off old unexploded bombs for scrap metal.
                          Hes not making it up , hes making money and so is his mates

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                          • Trump wins yet again. He is a great man. MAGA

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                            • Originally posted by Barron's Dream View Post
                              Trump wins yet again. He is a great man. MAGA
                              Nice try Barron.....


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                              • Originally posted by Barron's Dream View Post
                                Trump wins yet again. He is a great man. MAGA
                                Trump does win .But a lot more loose

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