Climate sceptic scientist lets the evidence change his mind.

[Guest]

Your reading of the facts Chook
You know what opinions are like Chook...they are like you: a rseholes

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored - Aldous Huxley.

Wallow in your lemming like ignorance idiot.

Chook.

[Guest]

You believe that these are facts Chook. They are opinions masquerading as such. I am pretty sure if you were a Phd in Climate science you wouldn't be arguing the point on a Rugby League chatroom.

No amount of abuse or force will make anybody believe them so your debating skills could do with some work too.

Try not to be so dogmatic

It didn't work for Adolf or Comrade Josef and it hasn't worked for Julia. Although thankfully she hasn't yet killed anything other than our international competitiveness.

History gives me a hunch it won't work for you either.

[novice chook]

Bravo Big Morls, very well said.

Chook you are the Fred68 of climate change I swear.

NC

[Rocky Rhodes]

So do you agree that humans induce climate change it's just a matter of measuring by how much?

Chook.

Did you really want to know the actual facts regarding how much humans contribute to the greenhouse effect?

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

total human greenhouse gas contributions
add up to about 0.28% of the greenhouse effect.

So much for the article saying evil humans are basically the cause for global warming. Gullible people swallow anything these days i guess as long as it agrees with their political persuasions. 0.28% is only a quarter of 1% chook.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Bravo Big Morls, very well said.

Chook you are the Fred68 of climate change I swear.

NC

The difference is Fred68 is basically right regarding the coach. However fred would blame Smith for global warming so i see your point.

[Guest]

We could do with some warming here in Sydney, it's 14 degrees outside right now.

[chook 56]

We could do with some warming here in Sydney, it's 14 degrees outside right now.

Harden up, pussy.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Let's work out with facts how much each Australian is contributing to global warming.

Since the early 20th century, Earth's mean surface temperature has increased by about 0.8 °C (1.4 °F). Few will disagree that the temperature has increased but why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

total human greenhouse gas contributions
add up to about 0.28% of the greenhouse effect.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

The World Resources Institute estimates that Australia was responsible for 1.1% of all CO2 emissions between 1850 and 2002.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrib...g_by_Australia

So Australia is responsible for about 0.000000308 of a degree (0.00028 * 0.0011) or in other word less than one millionth of a degree over a 100 yrs.

How much is Chook responsible for global warming given that where are 22,686,362 in Australia?
http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs%4...3?OpenDocument

So 0.000000308 of a degree divided by 22,686,362 = 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000001.

See even you are an insignificant bastard chook. Even your farts are useless so don't neck yourself yet you evil human.

Btw, if a billionth or tillionth of a degree is a worry buy yourself air conditioner you hipster doofus.

[Guest]

You believe that these are facts Chook. They are opinions masquerading as such. I am pretty sure if you were a Phd in Climate science you wouldn't be arguing the point on a Rugby League chatroom.

No amount of abuse or force will make anybody believe them so your debating skills could do with some work too.

Try not to be so dogmatic

It didn't work for Adolf or Comrade Josef and it hasn't worked for Julia. Although thankfully she hasn't yet killed anything other than our international competitiveness.

History gives me a hunch it won't work for you either.

You believe they are opinions because to acknowledge them as facts would force to admit you are wrong. There is nothing wrong about being wrong, I have been wrong many times and have admitted as much. Unlike fred68 NC! But on this issue I am not wrong and I am quoting facts.

You can all chose to ignore what scientists from both sides of this debate are saying and rocky's post proves -that humans induce and influence climate change. But that fact remains a fact regardless of whether you believe it.

And if you want to talk about debating, have a good look at yourself. You started with the personal insults after I posted links to the data supporting my posts that you chose to ignore in preference to insulting me.

Chook.

[Guest]

Chook If I had realised when this thread started that I was entering into a battle of wits with an unarmed person I would have refrained from entering the discussion.

[Rocky Rhodes]

You believe they are opinions because to acknowledge them as facts would force to admit you are wrong. There is nothing wrong about being wrong, I have been wrong many times and have admitted as much. Unlike fred68 NC! But on this issue I am not wrong and I am quoting facts.

You can all chose to ignore what scientists from both sides of this debate are saying and rocky's post proves -that humans induce and influence climate change. But that fact remains a fact regardless of whether you believe it.

And if you want to talk about debating, have a good look at yourself. You started with the personal insults after I posted links to the data supporting my posts that you chose to ignore in preference to insulting me.

Chook.

My post prove that any human contribution to any global warming is very insignificant, a drop in the ocean insignificant. However taking 70 billions out of our economy over the next 6 yrs is down right criminal.

This is just a tax for world government and the elistist are using this to control us.

[Guest]

The amount is irrelevant rocky, the fact is humans induce and influence climate change, which was the point of this thread. I wanted to see if the deniers would acknowledge one of their own changing their mind based on the evidence as Muller did. Here was a study funded by oil companies with the sole purpose to prove climate change was a croc, and I can garuntee if he had, the deniers would be falling over themselves to accept Mullers results. But because he found the complete opposite the deniers refuse to accept his findings, not because he's wrong or the data is wrong, but because it doesn't sit with their beliefs.

Even when I asked melon to acknowledge a point by the sceptic scientist that he sourced, he refused, not because she was wrong but because to acknowledge it would mean he was wrong. The deniers refused to even look at the Mullers data in favour of personal insults and tirades.

I wanted to prove deniers suffer groupthink or a lemming like behaviour with this thread and I've done just that, thank you all.

Chook.

[Guest]

You can dress it up however you like. This thread has proven several things.

1. That Google has turned us all into experts but only the Greens, ALP, Tony Windsor and Chook into professors

2. You can always get an argument on the pen.

3. That Chook is a blinkered unreconstructed Communist bewildered by these fast changing times.

4. You can find a statistic to support any argument even one as palpably insane and ludicrous as human induced climate change

5. Some lemming like Chook will Google that idiocy and take it as fact because he read it so it must be true

[Guest]

You can dress it up however you like. This thread has proven several things.

1. That Google has turned us all into experts but only the Greens, ALP, Tony Windsor and Chook into professors

2. You can always get an argument on the pen.

3. That Chook is a blinkered unreconstructed Communist bewildered by these fast changing times.

4. You can find a statistic to support any argument even one as palpably insane and ludicrous as human induced climate change

5. Some lemming like Chook will Google that idiocy and take it as fact because he read it so it must be true

Case in point.

Chook.

[melon....]

The amount is irrelevant rocky, the fact is humans induce and influence climate change, which was the point of this thread. I wanted to see if the deniers would acknowledge one of their own changing their mind based on the evidence as Muller did. Here was a study funded by oil companies with the sole purpose to prove climate change was a croc, and I can garuntee if he had, the deniers would be falling over themselves to accept Mullers results. But because he found the complete opposite the deniers refuse to accept his findings, not because he's wrong or the data is wrong, but because it doesn't sit with their beliefs.

Even when I asked melon to acknowledge a point by the sceptic scientist that he sourced, he refused, not because she was wrong but because to acknowledge it would mean he was wrong. The deniers refused to even look at the Mullers data in favour of personal insults and tirades.

I wanted to prove deniers suffer groupthink or a lemming like behaviour with this thread and I've done just that, thank you all.

Chook.

the reality mate is i couldnt be stuffed trolling through pages and pages of articles discussing how sceptics are more up with the science than belivers (google that). there was tonnes of the shit and i cannot be arsed proving a point that something that doesnt exist, doest exist! like man made CC.