Blabbotts NBN a $30 billion lemon.

[Rocky Rhodes]

There it is again, a strange little whinny sound. Like a bug that desperately needs to be be squashed.

Oh well, I'll just assume it'll go away and kill itself in some suitable way. No one would miss it that's for sure.

Chook.

So i guess making threads of violence is thinking outside the box for you.

Well done tard, go back to licking the bus window.

[Rooster_6]

I can see why the NBN didn't extend your internship, you cannot think outside the box.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/tec...1226620934033#

What about a smart fridge that scans barcodes on the items you use and advises when they are out of date. The fridge also compiles a shopping list based on usage and sends that list off to woolies at a predetermined time and date and poof, your groceries appear at your doorstep.

What about getting up not feeling well and logging onto an online medical forum where you speak to a doctor face to face and he can take your temp, BP, give you a diagnosis and email you a script and medical certificate.

Face to face video links will replace phone calls.
Remote Home security.
With voice recognition you'll be able to start heaters and air conditioners remotely from your car as you're heading home.

That's just some ideas off the top of my head. Think outside the box 6, the NBN is not all about downloads and uploads. It's about building infrastructure that can allow us to take advantage of what's yet to come.

20 years ago a 56K moderm did the job, what will do the job 20 years from now, certainly not Blabbotts NBN.

Chook.

None of that needs ridiculous Internet speeds. And none of that is innovative.

Fridges with JIT management systems are nothing new, they've been around for years now. The technology to add a scanner on the fridge has nothing to do with faster internet speeds.

Again using doctors over the Internet is also nothing new, this is something that's done often in remote areas. The technology to supply people with the equipment to be able to take your BP & temperature has nothing to do with internet speeds.

AGAIN technology to switch on your air con or heaters already exists, I can record a program on TV and turn on my air conditioner all from my phone. The software that that needs to be created to make it voice enabled or have it in your car AGAIN has nothing to do with internet speeds.

You still haven't given me one legitimate reason why the majority of Australian's need faster internet than what will be provided with FTTN.

I mean if you want to argue for an innovative reason for FTTP then research Virtual Reality and the educational benefits something like that could provide to the nation. Don't give me crap from a NewsLtd article about technologies that already exist.

[stsae]

Rockhead you are still a knob but a mighty fine fisherman none the less.

I know very little about politics or this NBN shit. Until recently I thought they were talking about NBN TV.

If I understand what you've all been banging on about correctly, Labour have been getting caned cos they want a faster more expensive network where as the Liberals want a slower less expensive network, basically???

And people are debating which one is best for Australians???

I think of the issue a lot like the road system especially in Sydney. We have for decades built roads to cater for traffic that is currently existent. But failed to properly account for the massive increases in population and vehicle use. Hence when a roads opened its almost outdated. And we've been repeating the same thing for decades, we never learn, either side of the political spectrum.

And we don't know what the future holds technology wise. We don't know where we will be taken in 20 years time.

Wouldn't it be smarter to aim for the fastest most adaptable speeds or technology so as in the future we aren't having the same debates as we are today???

You can't plan enough IMO.

Politics aside wouldn't it be better to aim high in this regard???

[Guest]

So i guess making threads of violence is thinking outside the box for you.

Well done tard, go back to licking the bus window.

Someone grab a can of mortein and drown that bug please.

Chook.

[Guest]

None of that needs ridiculous Internet speeds. And none of that is innovative.

Fridges with JIT management systems are nothing new, they've been around for years now. The technology to add a scanner on the fridge has nothing to do with faster internet speeds.

Again using doctors over the Internet is also nothing new, this is something that's done often in remote areas. The technology to supply people with the equipment to be able to take your BP & temperature has nothing to do with internet speeds.

AGAIN technology to switch on your air con or heaters already exists, I can record a program on TV and turn on my air conditioner all from my phone. The software that that needs to be created to make it voice enabled or have it in your car AGAIN has nothing to do with internet speeds.

You still haven't given me one legitimate reason why the majority of Australian's need faster internet than what will be provided with FTTN.

I mean if you want to argue for an innovative reason for FTTP then research Virtual Reality and the educational benefits something like that could provide to the nation. Don't give me crap from a NewsLtd article about technologies that already exist.

It's an article from a CSIRO report yet to be released you muppet. And having effective access to online devices, services and applications has nothing to do with broadband internet speeds, get that from your internship did you?

The major reason why we need the fastest internet speeds in the future is the unkown.

Chook.

[Guest]

Rockhead you are still a knob but a mighty fine fisherman none the less.

I know very little about politics or this NBN shit. Until recently I thought they were talking about NBN TV.

If I understand what you've all been banging on about correctly, Labour have been getting caned cos they want a faster more expensive network where as the Liberals want a slower less expensive network, basically???

And people are debating which one is best for Australians???

I think of the issue a lot like the road system especially in Sydney. We have for decades built roads to cater for traffic that is currently existent. But failed to properly account for the massive increases in population and vehicle use. Hence when a roads opened its almost outdated. And we've been repeating the same thing for decades, we never learn, either side of the political spectrum.

And we don't know what the future holds technology wise. We don't know where we will be taken in 20 years time.

Wouldn't it be smarter to aim for the fastest most adaptable speeds or technology so as in the future we aren't having the same debates as we are today???

You can't plan enough IMO.

Politics aside wouldn't it be better to aim high in this regard???

Not everyone is fishing, some are just retards of other aliases.

Chook.

[sretsoor]

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...416-2hxge.html

This post was originally published on Mashable.

While Australians compare the merits of Labor's fibre-to-the-home national broadband network with the Coalition's fibre-to-the-node proposal, Sony has installed the world's fastest home internet connection in Japan.

So-net Entertainment, a Sony-backed Japanese ISP, has launched a fibre-based internet service that reaches download speeds of 2 gigabit per second (Gbps), making it more than 20 times faster than the offerings of both Labor and the Coalition in Australia.

The Nuro, as the service is called, is available to homes and small businesses in Tokyo and six surrounding prefectures, Computerworld reports.

The upload speed is a little slower than download at 1 Gbps, but it's still faster than most of us get anywhere else in the world.

By comparison, the ultra-fast Google Fibre broadband internet service offers a "mere" 1 Gbps download speed – which is still some 100 times faster than today's average home internet connection – in Austin, Texas and Kansas City, Missouri in the US.

Nuro costs 4980 Yen ($A50) on a two-year contract, plus a 52,500 ($524) installation fee.

Mashable is the largest independent news source covering digital culture, social media and technology.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...#ixzz2QbO1fZoC

[Rooster_6]

It's an article from a CSIRO report yet to be released you muppet. And having effective access to online devices, services and applications has nothing to do with broadband internet speeds, get that from your internship did you?

You continue to misquote me and try to discredit me... I don't get it? Why even try to have a discussion with me when you refuse to even argue the points I raise.

I never said having access to devices, services and applications has nothing to do with broadband speeds, I said the 'innovative' technology you listed could already be catered under the current ADSL & 3G networks we use, there's no 'thinking outside of the box' used in your example. You still haven't justified the speeds of the FTTP network for the majority of Australian's.

The major reason why we need the fastest internet speeds in the future is the unkown.

Also a poor argument, Governments shouldn't potentially build surplus infrastructure just because the future is unknown.

[Guest]

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...416-2hxge.html

This post was originally published on Mashable.

While Australians compare the merits of Labor's fibre-to-the-home national broadband network with the Coalition's fibre-to-the-node proposal, Sony has installed the world's fastest home internet connection in Japan.

So-net Entertainment, a Sony-backed Japanese ISP, has launched a fibre-based internet service that reaches download speeds of 2 gigabit per second (Gbps), making it more than 20 times faster than the offerings of both Labor and the Coalition in Australia.

The Nuro, as the service is called, is available to homes and small businesses in Tokyo and six surrounding prefectures, Computerworld reports.

The upload speed is a little slower than download at 1 Gbps, but it's still faster than most of us get anywhere else in the world.

By comparison, the ultra-fast Google Fibre broadband internet service offers a "mere" 1 Gbps download speed – which is still some 100 times faster than today's average home internet connection – in Austin, Texas and Kansas City, Missouri in the US.

Nuro costs 4980 Yen ($A50) on a two-year contract, plus a 52,500 ($524) installation fee.

Mashable is the largest independent news source covering digital culture, social media and technology.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/tec...#ixzz2QbO1fZoC

Obviously Sony don't know what they're doing as according to 6, no one will ever need those types of speeds.

Chook.

[Guest]

You continue to misquote me and try to discredit me... I don't get it? Why even try to have a discussion with me when you refuse to even argue the points I raise.

I never said having access to devices, services and applications has nothing to do with broadband speeds, I said the 'innovative' technology you listed could already be catered under the current ADSL & 3G networks we use, there's no 'thinking outside of the box' used in your example. You still haven't justified the speeds of the FTTP network for the majority of Australian's.



Also a poor argument, Governments shouldn't potentially build surplus infrastructure just because the future is unknown.

I have argued your points 6, you asked why we needed faster speeds I gave you (off the top of my head) some reasons, you don't think they are reasons because as an individual you can already do them. But as more and more people want access to these services and devices, faster broadband will be needed to accompany everyone. That's why we need the better NBN to cope for the time when EVERYONE will be wanting access to what you can already do.

So you don't think when they built the Sydney Harbour bridge they build into it surplusness to cope for future needs? You need to rethink that statement 6.

Chook.

[stsae]

Not everyone is fishing, some are just retards of other aliases.

Chook.

Yeah he's a knob mate, I shouldn't have mentioned Rockhead.

But is what I've written essentially the argument at hand???

I'm a simpleton when it comes to these matters. All I see is the usual political bickering these governments play out. And I switch off.

Basically Labour has proposed a faster speed at a more expensive price??? Where the Libs have tried to appeal to those who look at $$$ first and come up with an inferior plan at a lower cost???

I don't understand small minded attitudes when it comes to infrastructure. We may as well build things for the future knowing that technology is king. It's not as though we are stopping here and satisfied with what we have. We will always need more in the future.

Why repeat the mistakes of the past???

[Guest]

Yeah he's a knob mate, I shouldn't have mentioned Rockhead.

But is what I've written essentially the argument at hand???

I'm a simpleton when it comes to these matters. All I see is the usual political bickering these governments play out. And I switch off.

Basically Labour has proposed a faster speed at a more expensive price??? Where the Libs have tried to appeal to those who look at $$$ first and come up with an inferior plan at a lower cost???

I don't understand small minded attitudes when it comes to infrastructure. We may as well build things for the future knowing that technology is king. It's not as though we are stopping here and satisfied with what we have. We will always need more in the future.

Why repeat the mistakes of the past???

Essentially year. But it's the same argument from the other side, we don't need it now so we won't need it in the future. The shortsightedness of it astounds me. Every facet of our life is moving online and here we are arguing about a few billion to build what is a sound infrastructure investment.

Chook.

[chook 56]

Politics aside wouldn't it be better to aim high in this regard???

No.
Put it like this.
Should we aim to win the premiership this year or target a top 8 finish as being good enough?

Mediocre is the way to go maaaate.

Oh, and the new freeways should always be built to accommodate the traffic at present and NEVER for projected volumes.

Works for me, maaaaate

[stsae]

Well according to Teabags R6 isn't a fan of The Baloney Man and a massive fan of Bwaiff so I guess we need to send him to OPSM to get that short sighted ness corrected.

R6 will love that one.

6 you must admit it would be shortsighted to downsize the scale of such a project just cos we may save a few bucks???

Sure we don't need those speeds NOW but how often in the past have governments failed to plan or planned to fail???

As I've stated it's not political for me, I hate all the carnts equally, but logic tells me this Internet thingy won't be going away in the near future.

[Rooster_6]

Obviously Sony don't know what they're doing as according to 6, no one will ever need those types of speeds.

Chook.

When did I ever say no one will ever need those speeds? You're worse than Rothfield, you've continually tried to discredit me and made up absolute bullshit without backing it up. How about an actual quote now where I said no one will ever need those speeds...

If anything it makes a liar out of your who said we will have the best Internet infrastructure in the world.

For an extra $15 bill we get Fibre to home and an internet infrastructure the best in the world.