Gillard alive or goorne

[Johnny.]

Good post.
Some people have very short & selective memories.

Good God, I've learnt to hate Peter Garrett so much I can't even bring myself to post a song by his band.

[bigben]

yeah his last single "How do we sleep when our BATS are burning ' put me off as well

[Johnny.]

yeah his last single "How do we sleep when our BATS are burning ' put me off as well

[stephenj]

i dont have the highest regard for k rudd , but whoever is in the office of prime minister of our country even abbott if that does occur i would treat with respect and dignity for the position not the person, over many years i have been fortunate to engage with many australian politicians, gough, joe b peterson, john howard, frazer, hawke richo. i did tend to get on better with those from the alp although i must admit one on one joe was a complete gentleman, frazer was a pig of a man arrogant to the extreme, i ended up having a blue with hawke before he was pm, richo was interesting, howard a nice old man, gough was my pick of the lot a very intelligent affable man, genuine in his conversation, i met him many times over my years flying for qantas.i havnt met abbott i probably never will , but id at least shake his hand with respect, at least he did play prop forward in real scrums? however what most concerns me is his obvious attraction to the sort of people like gina and rupert, although hawke was infatuated with abeles too?power and money?i gues rudds got the money just like turnbull but now he wants the power, i think hes an egomaniac?

[Johnny.]

Steve, if the Prime Minister wants to be friends with rich, successful people, is that a bad thing?

I know Bob Hawke and Sir Richard Branson were friends (last time I checked) and even though he's the modern day Howard Hughes, Richard Branson is a very successful businessman.

I also happen to know that Paul Keating was very, very friendly with Janet Homes a Court. Not so much with Robert but c'est la vie.

[Johnny.]

Now Simon Crean is retiring at the next election. The heart of what was the ALP is being cut out.

[stephenj]

the new simon crean is bill shorten, yes unlike the libs we are going throiugh a refresh of personell and also inlike the libs we dont wish to return to the 50s, hold onto your goolies for some abbott stomping policy from rudd and dont expect an election before october?

[Johnny.]

I've always believed that the last true old style ALP leader - the one with bloodlines and brain patterns tied to why the party was started in the first place - was Arthur Caldwell.

He died when I was six months old.

That's 39+ years since the ALP was even relevant. Bob Hawke and definately Paul Keating were more Lib than Lab.

[stephenj]

i remember when our arthur was shot whilstr sitting in his car at mossman? thats a very long time ago! yes keating was is more lib than labor and hawke found hois love of money too? probably the closest weve come in recent times has been ms gillard?

[redwhiteblue]

but whoever is in the office of prime minister of our country even abbott if that does occur i would treat with respect and dignity for the position not the person,

My point exactly Stephen. I sincerely hope your daughter will never know what it's like for people to trawl through her past, throw food at her, mock her deceased relatives or have the sexuality of her partner questioned on radio. I remember seeing pictures of your daughter in the paper back in 2010 I think it was, although I usually vote in a different way, I have the utmost respect for her, for standing up for what she believes in and what she thinks is best for her community, by putting herself into the public domain. No matter which way we vote, we all want to live in a clean, safe prosperous community with good transport, education and healthcare. When I had the shop, my favourite customer was Paul Pearce, former Labor member for Coogee and former mayor of Waverley. Stephen , when he came to say goodbye to me before I went to Melbourne, he told me not to get caught up in AFL, not to switch to that 'rorting mob' and to keep following Easts..

[SConcierge]

My point exactly Stephen. I sincerely hope your daughter will never know what it's like for people to trawl through her past, throw food at her, mock her deceased relatives or have the sexuality of her partner questioned on radio. I remember seeing pictures of your daughter in the paper back in 2010 I think it was, although I usually vote in a different way, I have the utmost respect for her, for standing up for what she believes in and what she thinks is best for her community, by putting herself into the public domain. No matter which way we vote, we all want to live in a clean, safe prosperous community with good transport, education and healthcare. When I had the shop, my favourite customer was Paul Pearce, former Labor member for Coogee and former mayor of Waverley. Stephen , when he came to say goodbye to me before I went to Melbourne, he told me not to get caught up in AFL, not to switch to that 'rorting mob' and to keep following Easts..

you need to earn respect and give respect in order to receive respect no matter who you are or what position u hold