Strange questions you want answered.

[Guest]

Why does the catholic pope need to surround himself with bullet proof glass when he goes out in public? Surely his faith in his god would be all the protection he needs...?

Chook.

It is not God that is trying to kill him.

[trewhella]

Why does the catholic pope need to surround himself with bullet proof glass when he goes out in public? Surely his faith in his god would be all the protection he needs...?

Chook.

Clearly you are not a spiritual man.
It comes as no surprise to me.


The benefits of religion and spirituality are in principal to do with a believers inner world.
I think naieve atheists have a belief that anyone who has some belief in anything other than materialism means that we are all interventionist type fools.

No belief in a God an stop a bullet from a madman.

Any believer with half a clue knows this.

[Guest]

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent!

Is god able, but not willing?
Then he is molevolent.

Is god both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is god neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?

That's a quote from Epicurus and makes more sense to me than all the religious dogma ever written about god. And goes to the very heart of my question. If god cannot prevent a single madman from squezzing the trigger and in doing so protecting his leading human on Earth, why should anyone whorship him?

Sooner or later human beings will realise there is no such thing as god, in any form. And that will be a grand awakening for the betterment of all humanity.

Chook.

[Guest]

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent!

Sooner or later human beings will realise there is no such thing as god, in any form. And that will be a grand awakening for the betterment of all humanity.

Chook.

and what will be the benifit of that?

[Rocky Rhodes]

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent!

Is god able, but not willing?
Then he is molevolent.

Is god both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is god neither able nor willing?
Then why call him god?

That's a quote from Epicurus and makes more sense to me than all the religious dogma ever written about god. And goes to the very heart of my question. If god cannot prevent a single madman from squezzing the trigger and in doing so protecting his leading human on Earth, why should anyone whorship him?

Sooner or later human beings will realise there is no such thing as god, in any form. And that will be a grand awakening for the betterment of all humanity.

Chook.

Given that you have a God in every condition or scenario listed above and you say that makes sense to you, then you obviously do believe in God. You have been busted chook, the truth is out.

If god cannot prevent a single madman from squezzing the trigger and in doing so protecting his leading human on Earth, why should anyone whorship him?

How can you blame something or someone that doesn't exist for being responsible? That's the logic of a madman chook, be careful with that gun. Maybe it's the lepricorns.

[Guest]

Why is everyone always looking for someone to blame?

[Guest]

Because no one wants to take the blame for anything.

Except the stupid people who say 'My bad' they should be shot.

[Guest]

Many a man on his death bed prays to God before passing on....

[Guest]

Given that you have a God in every condition or scenario listed above and you say that makes sense to you, then you obviously do believe in God. You have been busted chook, the truth is out.



How can you blame something or someone that doesn't exist for being responsible? That's the logic of a madman chook, be careful with that gun. Maybe it's the lepricorns.

That loud whoooshing sound you hear Rocky is my point flying over your head.

Chook.

[Guest]

and what will be the benifit of that?

It will indicate that mankind has finally gown up and can stand on its own without the need of the crutch called religion.

Chook.

[Guest]

Many a man on his death bed prays to God before passing on....

That's true, hypocrisy and religious beliefs go hand in hand.

Chook.

[trewhella]

and chook it seems like my point went over your head.

Omnipotence can be ambiguous in my mind.

Free will for man implies the ability to choose.

You cant have it all.

[Guest]

That's true, hypocrisy and religious beliefs go hand in hand.

Chook.

A person with religious beliefs will pray to their God throughout their lives. A man that does so on his death bed may be a hypocrite but you could question his religious beliefs...

[Rocky Rhodes]

That loud whoooshing sound you hear Rocky is my point flying over your head.

Chook.

The only point i can see you making regarding god and religion is that you are totally confused. One moment you are saying god doesn't exist, the next you seem to be blaming god (who according to you doesn't exist) and religion for all the worlds problems.

It will indicate that mankind has finally gown up and can stand on its own without the need of the crutch called religion.

We have seen societies without religion, Communism (e.g. stalin, lenin, pol pot etc), the french revolution etc etc. Yep, fine examples of humanity and growing up.

Pretty much every charity has some religious affiliation and then there is many schools and hospitals established because of religion. Yep, all religion is bad chook. What are we gonna do with all those empty religious buildings chook?

As trewhella mentioned, "free will" solves your riddle.

[Guest]

The only point i can see you making regarding god and religion is that you are totally confused. One moment you are saying god doesn't exist, the next you seem to be blaming god (who according to you doesn't exist) and religion for all the worlds problems.

We have seen societies without religion, Communism (e.g. stalin, lenin, pol pot etc), the french revolution etc etc. Yep, fine examples of humanity and growing up.

Pretty much every charity has some religious affiliation and then there is many schools and hospitals established because of religion. Yep, all religion is bad chook. What are we gonna do with all those empty religious buildings chook?

As trewhella mentioned, "free will" solves your riddle.

I have not blamed god for anything so please stop lying about what I say.

However, I most certainly do blame religion and mankinds belief in a god, as even you can't deny many of the worlds current and past woes are as a result of religious extremists.

We have seen countries deeply religious haven't we Rocky, Aphganistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, America, all choc full of pious, ignorant morons bent on creating thier own version of utopia.

And what riddle are you talking about?

Chook.