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    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/poli...-1225818215683

    Brethren schools get $70m in funding

    Rick Wallace From: The Australian January 12, 2010 12:00AM Increase Text

    THE Rudd government is handing more than $70 million to schools run by the Exclusive Brethren, a religious sect Kevin Rudd described as an "extremist cult" that breaks up families.

    The sect's schools have secured more than $8.4m under the government's school building stimulus package and they will share in $62m in recurrent taxpayer funding.

    Documents show a Brethren-run school at Swan Hill in northern Victoria was granted $1.2m for a library and $800,000 for a hall when its most recent annual report shows it had just 16 pupils and already had a library.

    Grants data released by the commonwealth shows that Brethren schools in every state received funding under the $12.4 billion schools stimulus package. Despite the Brethren's past disdain for computers, figures show its schools have received more than 300 under the commonwealth computers-in-school initiative.

    Brethren schools have also secured grants under the Schools Pride program. All up, the 2400 children in Brethren schools will each receive the equivalent of $26,127 in recurrent funding and $11,200 in stimulus funding.

    Australian Education Union federal president Angelo Gavrielatos said these sums were outrageous and the funding system had to be urgently replaced.

    "How can the government justify handing tens of millions of dollars to an organisation it believes is a cult while public schools which educate the vast majority of our children are struggling for funds?" Mr Gavrielatos said.

    "The government has said it will review schools funding this year. That review needs to be begin as a matter of urgency to allow for a proper public debate on where school funding should be directed and for what purpose."

    The Brethren is a fundamentalist Christian sect that lives by the doctrine of separation from mainstream society.

    Brethren schools must teach the normal curriculum, although reports say some novels are banned and chapters on sex and reproduction are excised from science textbooks.

    Brethren members are taught to shun broader society. They do not use TV, radios and do not watch movies or eat in restaurants. They do not vote, are opposed to unions and other forms of association, except their own church.

    The Brethren has been accused by former members, and the Prime Minister in his 2007 comments, of denying those who leave access to their children, a claim the organisation denies.

    Doug Burgess, the head of the Brethren's Victorian schools, said its schools were growing rapidly and the funding reflected that.

    He defended the sect's right to school funding, saying the children would otherwise be enrolled in state schools at full taxpayers' expense. Mr Burgess did not clarify whether sex education was taught at Brethren schools, but said textbooks were used according to state curriculum.

    A spokeswoman for Education Minister Julia Gillard said independent schools' funding would be reviewed this year but declined to address the conflict between Mr Rudd's comments and the funding of Brethren schools.

    The spokeswoman said Brethren schools met criteria for funding and policy allowed for flexibility on teaching sex education.

  • #2
    In the lead up to the last election Rudd called this lot an extreme far right wing cult

    Now the hypocrite is paying them megabucks with taxpayer money

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rcptn View Post
      In the lead up to the last election Rudd called this lot an extreme far right wing cult

      Now the hypocrite is paying them megabucks with taxpayer money
      I think you will find these are Howard favourites, Rudd has just not got around to changing it.

      http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...249548508.html

      The funding deal — in which the cashed-up sect's six schools will receive $50 million in coming years — was then cemented by the Howard government and will be continued for at least the next four years by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

      Education Department documents also reveal that the Exclusive Brethren regarded former prime minister John Howard as their most influential supporter and ally of last resort.

      In 2000, the sect's elders asked Mr Howard for special assistance on school funding because of his "sympathetic support in the past and the contact with you over the years".


      Yep, i blame Howard.
      Last edited by Rocky Rhodes; 01-13-2010, 11:50 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rocky Rhodes View Post
        I think you will find these are Howard favourites, Rudd has just not got around to changing it.

        http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...249548508.html

        The funding deal — in which the cashed-up sect's six schools will receive $50 million in coming years — was then cemented by the Howard government and will be continued for at least the next four years by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

        Education Department documents also reveal that the Exclusive Brethren regarded former prime minister John Howard as their most influential supporter and ally of last resort.

        In 2000, the sect's elders asked Mr Howard for special assistance on school funding because of his "sympathetic support in the past and the contact with you over the years".


        Yep, i blame Howard.
        You left out the bit immediately before the part you quoted that shows the Keating government were the original funders. The question has to be asked what does this lot have on the Australian governments of either persuasion?

        The controversial religious sect was awarded the lucrative school funding under the Keating government, according to a sect spokeswoman.

        The funding deal — in which the cashed-up sect's six schools will receive $50 million in coming years — was then cemented by the Howard government and will be continued for at least the next four years by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rcptn View Post
          You left out the bit immediately before the part you quoted that shows the Keating government were the original funders. The question has to be asked what does this lot have on the Australian governments of either persuasion?

          The controversial religious sect was awarded the lucrative school funding under the Keating government, according to a sect spokeswoman.

          The funding deal — in which the cashed-up sect's six schools will receive $50 million in coming years — was then cemented by the Howard government and will be continued for at least the next four years by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
          I agree, both government's have been responsible and it should be stopped (i.e the funding). But why single out Krudd when Howard had 11 years to fix that problem. Obviously howard was one of there favourites.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rcptn View Post
            You left out the bit immediately before the part you quoted that shows the Keating government were the original funders. The question has to be asked what does this lot have on the Australian governments of either persuasion?

            The controversial religious sect was awarded the lucrative school funding under the Keating government, according to a sect spokeswoman.

            The funding deal — in which the cashed-up sect's six schools will receive $50 million in coming years — was then cemented by the Howard government and will be continued for at least the next four years by Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
            So calling Rudd a hypocrite was what, wrong or the ramblings of a right wing idiot who doesn't have a clue but likes to blame everything on Kevin Rudd?

            Chook.

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            • #7
              Rudd is being highly hypocritical in continuing the funding Chook

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rcptn View Post
                Rudd is being highly hypocritical in continuing the funding Chook
                Possibly, but then you have no idea about the circumstances surrounding the funding do you?

                If the funding was garunteed under Howard (as the article posted says) and Rudd pulled it, he could leave the government open to litigation, possibly costing far more than the funding would?

                Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If Rudd pulled the funding cause he considered the school a "cult", but then that ended up costing taxpayers more than the funding would due to litigation, would be approve or disapprove of that step?

                Chook.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Chook View Post
                  Possibly, but then you have no idea about the circumstances surrounding the funding do you?

                  If the funding was garunteed under Howard (as the article posted says) and Rudd pulled it, he could leave the government open to litigation, possibly costing far more than the funding would?

                  Let me ask you a hypothetical question. If Rudd pulled the funding cause he considered the school a "cult", but then that ended up costing taxpayers more than the funding would due to litigation, would be approve or disapprove of that step?

                  Chook.
                  Depends how much more

                  Also they have received 8.4 mill under the Rudd governments stimulus package
                  Last edited by rcptn; 01-13-2010, 02:07 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Kevin's not just a hypocrite, he's a dangerto the future of this country.

                    He is totally ignoring what's going on in Australia to try to promote himself in world politics.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shadow View Post
                      Kevin's not just a hypocrite, he's a dangerto the future of this country.

                      He is totally ignoring what's going on in Australia to try to promote himself in world politics.
                      And his predecessors never did that? Howard, Keating, Hawke, Fraser...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shadow View Post
                        Kevin's not just a hypocrite, he's a dangerto the future of this country.

                        He is totally ignoring what's going on in Australia to try to promote himself in world politics.
                        What's happening in Australia? Avoiding a rececession, economy ploughing ahead...
                        ...

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