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Careful chook will fire back with another round of verbal insultsOriginally posted by Tootsie View PostComment
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Another nail in the coffin of AGW
NASA Charged in New Climate Fakery: Greenhouse Gas Data Bogus
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As usual you post nothing but more conspiracy theory bullshit.Originally posted by rcptn View Post
That link goes to nothing but an opinion of an opinion. This clown claims to have found out NASA, but in reality he has done nothing but make a claim about his claim. It is the same usless, wordy garbage that you have been spreading here for ages rcptn. This crap may impress you, but in factual terms or providing evidence it provides nothing.
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all i know for certain is the worlds weather is changi9ng, whether thats a natural change or helped along by man, i dont fully know nor do i think anyone does, i do know big business/money is squirming at the prospect of some profit reduction if they are impelled to do business in a more environmentally responsable way! why else would they employ all these spin doctors and have these bs articles published , alan jones loves to ramp it up because thats his side of politics!Comment
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People take a look at the evidence I provided chook is just deadset scared of the truth getting outOriginally posted by Chook View PostComment
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LOL, there is no truth or evidence to "get out". The only truth here is that you love to claim your conspiracy theory bullshit as something it is not.Originally posted by rcptn View Post
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South Pacific Islands not sinking
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/0...opportunistic/
Tuvalu and many other South Pacific Islands are not sinking, claims they are due to global warming driven sea level rise are opportunistic
Posted on June 2, 2010 by Anthony Watts
Nils Axel Morner and Don Easterbrook told them so. So did Willis, who had some very similar ideas.
We’ve mentioned several times here on WUWT that the claims about sea level rise and sinking islands are overblown. For example, this idiotic publicity stunt by the Maldivian government, signing a legal declaration underwater, demonstrates just how far some people are willing to prostitute their victimhood for financial gain. The MO: You other countries warmed the earth, raising sea level which threatens our island. Pay up sucka!
Yeah, well, that scam is now going the way of Nigerian email.
From TV New Zealand:
An Auckland University researcher has offered new hope to the myriad small island nations in the Pacific which have loudly complained their low-lying atolls will drown as global warming boosts sea levels.
Geographer Associate Professor Paul Kench has measured 27 islands where local sea levels have risen 120mm – an average of 2mm a year – over the past 60 years, and found that just four had diminished in size.
Working with Arthur Webb at the Fiji-based South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission, Kench used historical aerial photographs and high-resolution satellite images to study changes in the land area of the islands.
They found that the remaining 23 had either stayed the same or grown bigger, according to the research published in a scientific journal, Global and Planetary Change.
“It has been thought that as the sea level goes up, islands will sit there and drown,” Prof Kench told the New Scientist. “But they won’t.
“The sea level will go up and the island will start responding.
One of the highest profile islands – in a political sense – was Tuvalu, where politicians and climate change campaigners have repeatedly predicted it will be drowned by rising seas, as its highest point is 4.5 metres above sea level. But the researchers found seven islands had spread by more than 3 percent on average since the 1950s.
One island, Funamanu, gained 0.44 hectares or nearly 30 percent of its previous area.
And the research showed similar trends in the Republic of Kiribati, where the three main urbanised islands also “grew” – Betio by 30 percent (36ha), Bairiki by 16.3 percent (5.8ha) and Nanikai by 12.5 percent (0.8ha).
Webb, an expert on coastal processes, told the New Scientist the trend was explained by the fact the islands mostly comprised coral debris eroded from encircling reefs and pushed up onto the islands by winds and waves.
The process was continuous, because the corals were alive, he said.
In effect the islands respond to changes in weather patterns and climate – Cyclone Bebe deposited 140ha of sediment on the eastern reef of Tuvalu in 1972, increasing the main island’s area by 10 percent.
But the two men warned that while the islands were coping for now, any acceleration in the rate of sea level rise could re-instate the earlier gloomy predictions.
No one knows how fast the islands can grow, and calculating sea level rise is an inexact science.
Climate experts have generally raised estimates for sea level rise – the United Nations spoke in late 2009 of a maximum 2 metre rise by 2100, up from 18-59cm estimated in 2007.
Full story here. Even their source, the New Scientist was forced to admit the “good news” but says “sea level rise warnings stand”. Yeah, sure, whatever.
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Here’s the abstract and the link to the paper. (corrected, the New Scientist provided link was originally bad)
The dynamic response of reef islands to sea level rise: evidence from multi-decadal analysis of island change in the central pacific
Arthur P. Webba, and Paul S. Kenchb, ,
a South Pacific Applied Geoscience Commission, SOPAC. Fiji
b School of Environment, The University of Auckland, Private Bag 92019, Auckland, New Zealand
Received 22 February 2010; accepted 13 May 2010. Available online 21 May 2010.
Abstract
Low-lying atoll islands are widely perceived to erode in response to measured and future sea level rise. Using historical aerial photography and satellite images this study presents the first quantitative analysis of physical changes in 27 atoll islands in the central Pacific over a 19 to 61 year period. This period of analysis corresponds with instrumental records that show a rate of sea level rise of 2.0 mm.y-1 in the Pacific. Results show that 86% of islands remained stable (43%) or increased in area (43%) over the timeframe of analysis. Largest decadal rates of increase in island area range between 0.1 to 5.6 hectares. Only 14% of study islands exhibited a net reduction in island area. Despite small net changes in area, islands exhibited larger gross changes. This was expressed as changes in the planform configuration and position of islands on reef platforms. Modes of island change included: ocean shoreline displacement toward the lagoon; lagoon shoreline progradation; and, extension of the ends of elongate islands. Collectively these adjustments represent net lagoonward migration of islands in 65% of cases. Results contradict existing paradigms of island response and have significant implications for the consideration of island stability under ongoing sea level rise in the central Pacific. First, islands are geomorphologically persistent features on atoll reef platforms and can increase in island area despite sea level change. Second; islands are dynamic landforms that undergo a range of physical adjustments in responses to changing boundary conditions, of which sea level is just one factor. Third, erosion of island shorelines must be reconsidered in the context of physical adjustments of the entire island shoreline as erosion may be balanced by progradation on other sectors of shorelines. Results indicate that the style and magnitude of geomorphic change will vary between islands. Therefore, Island nations must place a high priority on resolving the precise styles and rates of change that will occur over the next century and reconsider the implications for adaption.
(Corrected) Link to paper (paywall) is hereLast edited by rcptn; 06-05-2010, 12:32 PM.Comment
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congratulations rcpn, youve won the national lottery of nigeria!Comment
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Take another lookOriginally posted by Fairfax View PostStill Prime Minister last time I looked. Don't believe the polls and your shock jock mates. The figures I see aren't the same as the ones you do. Love to waste time discussing with you, but you're a nobody
Intelligent design. DISCUSS.
Bahwahwhawha.
and I suggest you dump your Labor party internal pollsters as they obviously got it way wrong you nobody
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dont forget Alan Jones was the big backer behind jo Peterson for pm, what a great choice that would have been? jo would have made even the mad abbot look like a lefty?Comment
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4.3 degrees. Coldest morning in 61 years.
Global warming my arse.Comment
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