The gory glory of religion!

[Guest]

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225838882810

DOGO NAHAWA: On the dusty streets of three Christian villages in northern Nigeria, dozens of bodies lined the streets. Other victims of the weekend's Muslim fury jammed a local morgue, the limbs of slaughtered children tangled in a grotesque mess.
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Religion is nothing more than another excuse for mankind to slaughter mankind and that's why mankind needs to abandon it. We don't need more reasons to murder each other.

Chook.

[Billy Gunn]

Unfortunately if it's not religion it will be for power. I just cant comprehend how people could commit these kinds of acts

[Guest]

Religion is a big problem.

But I work in a Catholic school, was raised a Catholic and now choose not to practice any religion. I keep my opinions to myself, I respect those who do practice and I don't try to change anyone. I wish others could do the same.

The world would be a better place without the fanatics.

[Rocky Rhodes]

Oh dear, chook being a total simpleton again. Seriously why all this bitterness over religion, did a priest sodomise your arse or something when you were younger?

We have seen the evils of pagan societies without religion, Communism (e.g. stalin, lenin, pol pot etc), the french revolution etc. The problem is obviously HUMAN NATURE, the lust for power, money and domination over others etc. Anyone who thinks religions are the source of the world's problems is an simpleton idiot.

So if you want a world with no wars or murder i can suggest a one way ticket to the moon or better still maybe you should preach verses out of the bible, you know...You shall not murder etc. And if ya get to heaven chook, i don't think you need to worry about wars or murder anymore.

[Guest]

Oh dear, chook being a total simpleton again. Seriously why all this bitterness over religion, did a priest sodomise your arse or something when you were younger?

Not me personally, but it's nice to see you exhibit the usual religious ignorance and blasé attitude when confronted with the evils done by religions. I’m sure the thousands whose arses were sodomised by religious zealots should really see past their own experiences with religion and see it from your point of view shouldn’t they?

We have seen the evils of pagan societies without religion, Communism (e.g. stalin, lenin, pol pot etc), the french revolution etc. The problem is obviously HUMAN NATURE, the lust for power, money and domination over others etc. Anyone who thinks religions are the source of the world's problems is an simpleton idiot.

So if you want a world with no wars or murder i can suggest a one way ticket to the moon or better still maybe you should preach verses out of the bible, you know...You shall not murder etc. And if ya get to heaven chook, i don't think you need to worry about wars or murder anymore.

This massacre was done purely on religious denomination Rocky! By all means feel free to jam your head up your arse and ignore what religion has turned into, ie an excuse to murder and kill, it’ll come as no surprise to many as ignorance is the fundamental cornerstone of religious beliefs.

Even today the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions in Africa through their dissemination of pamphlets advising AGIANST the use of condoms to stop the spread of aids instead saying that condoms CAUSE the spread of aids!! A practice that has been widely condemned by the World Health Organisation!

Here is catholic bishop farkbrain saying that condoms are infected with HIV on purpose.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7014335.stm

Here is Heir farkin Ratzinger only last year reiterating that condoms, the simplest and most effective way to stop the spread of aids, are not the answer!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...a-condoms-aids

Pretty farking enlightening don’t you think Rocky? Yeah we certainly need more of this utter garbage from religion don’t we Rocky?

“Anyone who thinks religions are the source of the world's problems is an simpleton idiot.”

Whose the simpleton idiot now Rocky?

Chook.

[Guest]

Just because a person that works in the church makes a statement such as the condoms are infected - does not make him the spokesperson for the entire organisation nor would his views be necessarily agreed upon by all in the church.

Much like your views do not make you the spokesperson for the entire human race.

The arch bishop is a goose. The place is full of them.

The catholic church is NOT directly responsible for the death of these people, it is sex that is responsible. I guess you can say that car manufacturers are responsible for road deaths amongst speeding drivers.

[Twenty]

Religion is a big problem.

But I work in a Catholic school, was raised a Catholic and now choose not to practice any religion. I keep my opinions to myself, I respect those who do practice and I don't try to change anyone. I wish others could do the same.

The world would be a better place without the fanatics.

I totally agree, those yellow shirts piss me right off.

Tennis is such a ghey sport!!!!!

[Guest]

Just because a person that works in the church makes a statement such as the condoms are infected - does not make him the spokesperson for the entire organisation nor would his views be necessarily agreed upon by all in the church.

But his views on condoms ARE supported and backed by the Vatican. Even Ratzinger has stated condoms won’t help stop the spread. What part of that can’t you comprehend?

Much like your views do not make you the spokesperson for the entire human race.

The arch bishop is a goose. The place is full of them.

The catholic church is NOT directly responsible for the death of these people, it is sex that is responsible.

What garbage! The catholic church has stated that the use of condoms will not help prevent the spread of aids, this is a lie! A lie that continues to be perpetrated to maintain control over the lives of people who have a very limited access to the truth. And who look to the catholic church for guidance…and how does this lying, two-faced, arsehole filled, redundant organisation respond…with lies!!

I guess you can say that car manufacturers are responsible for road deaths amongst speeding drivers.

What a ridiculous analogy! If a car manufacturer stated that wearing a seat belt was unnecessary and you died as a result of not wearing one, then they would be responsible for your death. Just as the catholic church IS responsible for the suffering and deaths of millions in Africa due its stance on condoms!

Chook.

[Twenty]

Just as the catholic church IS responsible for the suffering and deaths of millions in Africa due its stance on condoms!

Chook.

Man, that is one whacky comment.

Surely it's the monkey ****ers who are to blame?

[Guest]

So if you met someone and they offered you sex and they told you they had AIDS you would still have sex with them as long as you wore a condom right?

As you stated "Even today the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions in Africa.... "

[Guest]

So if you met someone and they offered you sex and they told you they had AIDS you would still have sex with them as long as you wore a condom right?

Are you really this stupid to ask this kind of a question? Of course I wouldn’t because unlike the people of Africa I am educated and well aware of the dangers of having sex with someone who has aids. Unfortunately the poor people of Africa are unaware of the dangers because its farking religious morons from the catholic karnt of a church that spread there heinous farking lies under the guise of “religious dogma”!

As you stated "Even today the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions in Africa.... "

Yes they are as they contribute to the spread of a killer disease by telling the people of Africa lies. Is that so hard for you to understand?

Chook.

[Guest]

Understanding is one thing, agreeing is another.

You think that using condoms would or would not solve the problem? So you agree that there is a danger even when using a condom?

"Contribute" and "directly responsible" are two differing statements. But then again I am the one that has the problem....

Having a differing opinion to yours is futile and is met with aggression.

Kind of like the religious nuts that you oppose......

[Guest]

Understanding is one thing, agreeing is another.

So you understand the catholic church is doing the wrong thing, you just don't agree the ramifications are their fault?

You think that using condoms would or would not solve the problem?

Yes, for millions using condoms would stop them catching aids and thus spreading aids, as advised by the world health organisation.

So you agree that there is a danger even when using a condom?

I already said that as I know that to be a fact. The issue is the people of Africa do not as they are being lied to by the catholic church.

"Contribute" and "directly responsible" are two differing statements. But then again I am the one that has the problem....

Now you are playing semantics. The facts are the catholic church is contributing to the spread of aids in Africa and as a result of that contribution are directly responsible for the suffering and deaths of millions. You can ignore those facts all you want, it doesn't change the facts themselves.

Having a differing opinion to yours is futile and is met with aggression.

Kind of like the religious nuts that you oppose......

Having a different opinion is not the issue. Ignoring the facts I present to you in favour of semantics is however an issue that makes me angry. You don't like it, stop playing semantics.

Chook.

[Rocky Rhodes]

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Not me personally, but it's nice to see you exhibit the usual religious ignorance and blasé attitude when confronted with the evils done by religions. I’m sure the thousands whose arses were sodomised by religious zealots should really see past their own experiences with religion and see it from your point of view shouldn’t they?

lol..a so called atheist whinging about ignorance

The definition of an athetist is basically ignorance. Not only ignorance about the existance of God but ignorance about many of the good things religion or christianity brings to societies, from things like charities, schools, hospitals etc and even the common laws in our society which originated from the bible.

What has atheism given to society apart from sweet F.A ignorance??

This massacre was done purely on religious denomination Rocky! By all means feel free to jam your head up your arse and ignore what religion has turned into, ie an excuse to murder and kill, it’ll come as no surprise to many as ignorance is the fundamental cornerstone of religious beliefs.

As above, ignorance is the fundamental cornerstone of atheism.

I suppose you think the massacres of Martin Byrant or Ivan Malat were religious based? (just 2 names off the top of my head)

These two examples had nothing to do with religion yet created a massacre. Bryant was just a bigot who discriminated against race or religion, race in his case. In a way similar to yourself discriminating against all religion.

Even today the Catholic Church is directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions in Africa through their dissemination of pamphlets advising AGIANST the use of condoms to stop the spread of aids instead saying that condoms CAUSE the spread of aids!! A practice that has been widely condemned by the World Health Organisation!

So you judge all religions based on what the catholics do? Do you judge all league supporters based on a small percentage of bulldog thugs?

Aids was created via scientists mistakes in a lab with monkeys. By your genius logic maybe we should rid the world of these evil science and it's scientist.

Here is catholic bishop farkbrain saying that condoms are infected with HIV on purpose.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7014335.stm

Here is Heir farkin Ratzinger only last year reiterating that condoms, the simplest and most effective way to stop the spread of aids, are not the answer!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...a-condoms-aids

Judging something on extreme positions? Should we judge global warming on those with extreme positions? If we do then it's rubbish.

Pretty farking enlightening don’t you think Rocky? Yeah we certainly need more of this utter garbage from religion don’t we Rocky?

“Anyone who thinks religions are the source of the world's problems is an simpleton idiot.”

Whose the simpleton idiot now Rocky?

I'm not the biased ignorant one with blinkers on here. I never said all religions are good not would i practice many religions. There are extremist and extreme positions in every walk of life. Unlike you i can see the big picture.

[Guest]

On ya Fonzy.....no one can put their point across without you ripping them another arsehole.

The catholic church advises people to abstain from pre marital sex. They are also against contraception. That is their stance, always has been. The WHO though must have no presence in Africa and must not have any contact with these people right? The ramifications is not their fault. You can argue that point till you are blue in the face and I am sure you will.

I am going to play semantics here again. You say the people of Africa are being lied to by the catholic church. Are you talking about the institution or a representative of the catholic church? The BBC article you presented is one person that is associated with the catholic church.

The second article the Pope does not say that condoms are not the answer, but he does say it could make the problem worse. Now why would that be? I will explain it to you. He - and the catholic church - believe in abstinence from sex until marriage. In the event of promoting the use of condoms, it is condones promiscuity.

Now you don't have to agree with what they preach but you must agree that abstinence from sex is THE safest way of all.

For the record I am a catholic and I do not subscribe to some of the rules but as rocky says a lot of good comes from religion. If it was not religious excuses for the killing and massacres, it would be something else.

Please dissect my opinion and my view and let go with a tirade of abuse. I wonder if you conduct yourself in the same manner in public as you do on a forum.

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