Women Voters?

[Guest]

Just another reason not to vote for her

[Guest]

I do not normally enter into political discussions, BUT I do not want to vote for either of the wankers.....

Both will totally **** up anything they touch and are nothing more than a pair of inept morons....

Piss the entire bench off and start again...its the only way to get this country back on track and away from the wanker element in Canberra today.....

[stephenj]

a lot of people feel this way too phantom? thank god i can think abouts easts now and not the bloody election?

[Adolf Fittler]

Women can vote!?

[stephenj]

vote early, vote often!

[horrie hastings]

The thing that shits me about Gillard is her 1930s view on same sex marriage. We are all meant to accept her choice to live in sin with her boyfriend, but she can't let same sex couples get married? at least speedos is a hardcore catholic and has a half arsed reason to deny it.

I'm not surprised abut Gillards stance on this at all but i'm very surprised that openly gay minister Penny Wong is backing Gillards view on this.I used to like Penny Wong but i now think she is a two faced bitch and just another Labour party puppet.

I'm with you Chen,this is one election i'm definately fence sitting on at the moment,niether party is doing it for me at the moment.

[Guest]

penny wong is a disgrace. i agree with the comment somewhere that said just because she's a lesbian doesnt necessarily mean she should support gay marriage BUT surely as a lesbian in a position of power she should represent the opinions of the majority of the gay lesbian community which i suspect is in support of it. wong is a puppet for sure just like garrett.

nothings changed in the last few days, still fence sitting. liberals seem to have a good policy on maternity leave/pay etc... but meh i dunno. still think there is a massive need in australia for a conservative party with conscience. a middle ground of the two looney parties we have now.

[stephenj]

although Ive made my mind up, I'm a bit obvious? i tend to agree a better conservative party should be on the horizon, this one under Abbott is not that party? Abbott is committed to Catholicism and all the moral judgments that entails? he has demonstrated and agrees that he has no economic knowledge whatsoever , that scares e, with 2 children i have to be concerned that work choices could again raise its ugly head, he wont discount that!at least the alp did show some guts in keeping us out of recession!I'm not so sure on the introduction of an ets, with the greens having some power it seems inevitable? i resent the mining industry trying to influence the election outcome by outspending the government and the alp, shows how much cash they have now, without being taxed, i pay, you pay, why shouldn't they pay? they threaten to shed jobs? they cant make a profit without workers, if they don't invest another consortium will! i do think some of these outrageous executive bonuses need to be reigned in? fringe benefits tax was brought in to slow down some of their rorts?

[Guest]

although Ive made my mind up, I'm a bit obvious? i tend to agree a better conservative party should be on the horizon, this one under Abbott is not that party? Abbott is committed to Catholicism and all the moral judgments that entails? he has demonstrated and agrees that he has no economic knowledge whatsoever , that scares e, with 2 children i have to be concerned that work choices could again raise its ugly head, he wont discount that!at least the alp did show some guts in keeping us out of recession!I'm not so sure on the introduction of an ets, with the greens having some power it seems inevitable? i resent the mining industry trying to influence the election outcome by outspending the government and the alp, shows how much cash they have now, without being taxed, i pay, you pay, why shouldn't they pay? they threaten to shed jobs? they cant make a profit without workers, if they don't invest another consortium will! i do think some of these outrageous executive bonuses need to be reigned in? fringe benefits tax was brought in to slow down some of their rorts?

05-30-2010, 01:54 PM
stephenj
Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: the shire
Posts: 989



absolutely nothing except abbot is the one who backed the libs out of the agreement to support the ets in the senate and i detest both these guys, in fact ill be politicking very hard in the shire to beat morrison although the conservative old ladies will probably put him back in!

i felt like making a comment about these two inept tories

Have you been campaigning very hard for Labor stephenj?

[Guest]

I support Labor but I can't do it this time. Not because of Julia Gillard and her past which is if not bright red is very pink but because of the deal with the greens.

I saw Anthony Albanese last night on Lateline spruiking one of their policies about the Very Fast Train between Brisbane and Melbourne.

[Guest]

although Ive made my mind up, I'm a bit obvious? i tend to agree a better conservative party should be on the horizon, this one under Abbott is not that party? Abbott is committed to Catholicism and all the moral judgments that entails? he has demonstrated and agrees that he has no economic knowledge whatsoever , that scares e, with 2 children i have to be concerned that work choices could again raise its ugly head, he wont discount that!at least the alp did show some guts in keeping us out of recession!I'm not so sure on the introduction of an ets, with the greens having some power it seems inevitable? i resent the mining industry trying to influence the election outcome by outspending the government and the alp, shows how much cash they have now, without being taxed, i pay, you pay, why shouldn't they pay? they threaten to shed jobs? they cant make a profit without workers, if they don't invest another consortium will! i do think some of these outrageous executive bonuses need to be reigned in? fringe benefits tax was brought in to slow down some of their rorts?

That is just blatant dishonesty on your part mate

Abbott has a degree in economics
Gillard has none

[Guest]

That is just blatant dishonesty on your part mate

Abbott has a degree in economics
Gillard has none

RSVP here is someone who has doubts about the conservative economic policies and I would tend to think he is in a position to make a judgement based on his knowledge and experience

http://www.news.com.au/business/labo...-1225902003437

Joseph Stiglitz praises Labor on economy
"Did a fantastic job of saving your country"
Says miners don't want to pay fair shair of tax
THE Federal Government's economic credentials have received a timely boost from Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, who suggested Labor may be best placed to take the country forward.

Professor Stiglitz, a former World Bank chief economist and economic adviser to the US Government, said Federal Labor did a fantastic job of saving Australia from the global economic crisis.

At the same time Professor Stiglitz criticised right-wing politicians for being the "architects" of the downturn.

"One of the reasons why the debate about...Australia's stimulus...is so important is not because we're historians and we're trying to grade but because we're trying to make a judgement about going forward who is likely to do a better job," Professor Stgilitz said.

"What are the economic theories, advisers they are likely to draw upon? Labor's done a good job."


Professor Stiglitz said economic advisers who had been praised by "the other side" of politics were the ones who had designed America's "economic mess."

"To praise the people who were the architects of the global financial crisis suggests that your economic ideas might lead this country into difficulty," he added.

"Whereas the others (Labor) actually did a fantastic job of saving your country from problems."

Professor Stiglitz said he supported the objectives of the Government's mining tax but was not surprised resource firms objected.

"The clear objective is one that I supported when I was in the Clinton Administration and our attempt to do a very similar kind of thing," he added.

"Having watched what happened in the US I'm not surprised at all what's happened here; the mining companies do not want to pay their fair share."

But he said he was surprised at the resonance the resource firms' arguments have had.

You would have to agree RSVP this man is well qualified (perhaps even more than you) to make this assessment.

[Guest]

RSVP here is someone who has doubts about the conservative economic policies and I would tend to think he is in a position to make a judgement based on his knowledge and experience

http://www.news.com.au/business/labo...-1225902003437

Joseph Stiglitz praises Labor on economy
"Did a fantastic job of saving your country"
Says miners don't want to pay fair shair of tax
THE Federal Government's economic credentials have received a timely boost from Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, who suggested Labor may be best placed to take the country forward.

Professor Stiglitz, a former World Bank chief economist and economic adviser to the US Government, said Federal Labor did a fantastic job of saving Australia from the global economic crisis.

At the same time Professor Stiglitz criticised right-wing politicians for being the "architects" of the downturn.

"One of the reasons why the debate about...Australia's stimulus...is so important is not because we're historians and we're trying to grade but because we're trying to make a judgement about going forward who is likely to do a better job," Professor Stgilitz said.

"What are the economic theories, advisers they are likely to draw upon? Labor's done a good job."


Professor Stiglitz said economic advisers who had been praised by "the other side" of politics were the ones who had designed America's "economic mess."

"To praise the people who were the architects of the global financial crisis suggests that your economic ideas might lead this country into difficulty," he added.

"Whereas the others (Labor) actually did a fantastic job of saving your country from problems."

Professor Stiglitz said he supported the objectives of the Government's mining tax but was not surprised resource firms objected.

"The clear objective is one that I supported when I was in the Clinton Administration and our attempt to do a very similar kind of thing," he added.

"Having watched what happened in the US I'm not surprised at all what's happened here; the mining companies do not want to pay their fair share."

But he said he was surprised at the resonance the resource firms' arguments have had.

You would have to agree RSVP this man is well qualified (perhaps even more than you) to make this assessment.

He is a central banker who wants us all to have to trade carbon credits of course he is going to support the side that are more likely to try and inflict that on us in the near future. Kobber mate until you realize that the big banks in this world want us to all individually trade carbon credits a lot of things will just go swoosh over the top of your head including this man made global warming crap.

[Guest]

He is a central banker who wants us all to have to trade carbon credits of course he is going to support the side that are more likely to try and inflict that on us in the near future. Kobber mate until you realize that the big banks in this world want us to all individually trade carbon credits a lot of things will just go swoosh over the top of your head including this man made global warming crap.

RSVP I thought we were discussing economic policy not "global warming crap" and the policies that saved us from the devastation that has gripped the United States of Paranoia and the EU. Are you telling me that you believe that a nobel prize winner would not have the moral fibre to make honest assessments based on his knowledge and achievements without letting personal feelings get in the way? Surely if he was as you seem to think he would be a liberal (Australian misnoma for the conservative party) or a repulican.

[Guest]

RSVP I thought we were discussing economic policy not "global warming crap" and the policies that saved us from the devastation that has gripped the United States of Paranoia and the EU. Are you telling me that you believe that a nobel prize winner would not have the moral fibre to make honest assessments based on his knowledge and achievements without letting personal feelings get in the way? Surely if he was as you seem to think he would be a liberal (Australian misnoma for the conservative party) or a repulican.

Many things are intertwined mate and the man made global warming crap is all about money and the sort of economy the bankers want.