800 Peer Reviewed Papers Deny Man Made CC

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I find it amazing that people say there is no peer reviewed scientific evidence supporting man made climate change skepticism.

Read it and weep Chook


http://www.populartechnology.net/200...upporting.html

Of course if the Labor government are relected and the Citzens Assembly goes ahead will any of this information be presented to the 150 people by the 5 people on the government appointed Climate Change Comission?

My Guess is NO because the determination of a consensus and the result is already determined

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Some of those articles are over 20 years old. Did you read them all?

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Some of those articles are over 20 years old. Did you read them all?

No and I don't see what difference that makes

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Some of those articles are over 20 years old. Did you read them all?

The age of any scientific paper is irrelevant. Using this logic all of science would become irrelevant after a certain amount of time, which is obviously ridiculous. This would mean dismissing Svante Arrhenius's 1896 paper "On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature of the ground" and the basis for greenhouse theory. There are over 200 papers published since 2007 on the list.

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The age of any scientific paper is irrelevant. Using this logic all of science would become irrelevant after a certain amount of time, which is obviously ridiculous. This would mean dismissing Svante Arrhenius's 1896 paper "On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature of the ground" and the basis for greenhouse theory. There are over 200 papers published since 2007 on the list.

So science has NEVER re-evaluated ANYTHING that they have found in the past? Mmmm, that is good to know.

Never heard a scientist say "We NOW know".....Maybe I am hearing it wrong

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So science has NEVER re-evaluated ANYTHING that they have found in the past? Mmmm, that is good to know.

Never heard a scientist say "We NOW know".....Maybe I am hearing it wrong

That is not what I said. The point is a paper cannot simply be dismissed because of it's age.

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LOL
Most of the journals on this list (that i am familiar with) are openly politicised and basically the mouthpiece for industry........and let me make clear that "peer reviewed" does not "authenticate a consummate scientific appraisal.

etc The energy and environment journal which dominates the list is overseen by a right wing wacko who says this....When asked about the publication of these papers Boehmer-Christiansen replied, "I'm following my political agenda -- a bit, anyway. But isn't that the right of the editor?" wiki

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LOL
Most of the journals on this list (that i am familiar with) are openly politicised and basically the mouthpiece for industry........and let me make clear that "peer reviewed" does not "authenticate a consummate scientific appraisal.

LOL, are people supposed to believe this nonsense? Here are the journals on the list,

AAPG Bulletin
Academic Questions
Advances in Geosciences
Advances in Global Change Research
Advances in Space Research
Agricultural and Forest Meteorology
Agricultural Meteorology
Agricultural Water Management
Agriculture, Ecosystems & Environment
Ambio
American Journal of Botany
Annales Geophysicae
Annals of Glaciology
Annual Review of Energy and the Environment
Annual Review of Fluid Mechanics
Applied Energy
Aquatic Botany
Arabian Journal of Geosciences
Arctic and Alpine Research
Area
Arizona Journal of International and Comparative Law
Astronautics and Aeronautics
Astronomical Notes
Astronomy & Geophysics
Astrophysics and Space Science
Astrophysics and Space Science Library
Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics
Atmospheric Environment
British Medical Journal (BMJ)
Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society (BAMS)
Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics
Bulletin of Canadian Petroleum Geology
Canadian Journal of Agricultural Economics
Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences
Central European Journal of Physics
Chemical Engineering Progress
Chemical Innovation
Climate Dynamics
Climate of the Past
Climate Research
Climatic Change
Cold Regions Science and Technology
Comptes Rendus Geosciences
Contemporary South Asia
Current Opinion in Biotechnology
Earth and Planetary Science Letters
Ecological Complexity
Ecological Modelling
Ecological Monographs
Ecology
Economic Affairs
Economic Analysis and Policy
Economics Bulletin
Emerging Infectious Diseases
Energy
Energy & Environmen
Energy Fuels
Energy Policy
Energy Sources
Environment International
Environmental and Experimental Botany
Environmental Conservation
Environmental Geology
Environmental Geosciences
Environmental Health Perspectives
Environmental Law and Management
Environmental Politics
Environmental Research
Environmental Science & Policy
Environmental Science and Pollution Research
Environmental Software
Environmetrics
Eos, Transactions American Geophysical Union
Fresenius' Journal of Analytical Chemistry
Futures
Geografiska Annaler
Geografiska Annaler: Series A, Physical Geography
GeoJournal
Geology
Geomagnetism and Aeronomy
Geophysical Research Letters
Geoscience Canada
Global and Planetary Change
Global Biogeochemical Cycles
Global Change Biology
Global Environmental Change
GSA Today
Historical Studies in the Natural Sciences
Hydrological Sciences Journal
Il Nuovo Cimento C
Interfaces
International Journal of Biometeorology
International Journal of Climatology
International Journal of Environmental Studies
International Journal of Forecasting
International Journal of Global Energy Issues
International Journal of Global Warming
International Journal of Modern Physics B
International Journal of Remote Sensing
International Quarterly for Asian Studies
International Social Science Journal
Irish Astronomical Journal
Irrigation and Drainage
Iron & Steel Technology
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
Journal of Atmospheric and Oceanic Technology
Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics
Journal of Atmospheric and Terrestrial Physics
Journal of Chemical Education
Journal of Climate
Journal of Coastal Research
Journal of Cosmology
Journal of Environmental Sciences
Journal of Environmental Quality
Journal of Experimental Botany
Journal of Forestry
Journal of Fusion Energy
Journal of Geophysical Research
Journal of Hydrology
Journal of Information Ethics
Journal of Lake Sciences
Journal of Natural Gas Science and Engineering
Journal of Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics
Journal of Paleolimnology
Journal of Plant Physiology
Journal of Scientific Exploration
Journal of the American Water Resources Association
Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences
Journal of the Italian Astronomical Society
Journal of the South African Institution of Civil Engineering
Journal of Vegetation Science
La Chimica e l'Industria
Latvian Journal of Physics and Technical Sciences
Leadership and Management in Engineering
Malaria Journal
Marine Geology
Marine Pollution Bulletin
Meteorology and Atmospheric Physics
Meteorologische Zeitschrift
Mitigation and Adaptation Strategies for Global Change
Monthly Weather Review
Moscow University Physics Bulletin
Natural Hazards
Natural Hazards Review
Nature
Nature Biotechnology
Nature Geoscience
Netherlands Journal of Geosciences
New Astronomy
New Concepts In Global Tectonics
New Literary History
New Phytologist
New Zealand Geographer
New Zealand Journal of Marine and Freshwater Research
Nordic Hydrology
Norwegian Polar Institute Letters
Oceanologica Acta
Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology
Paleoceanography
Paleontological Journal
Physical Geography
Physical Review E
Physical Review Letters
Physics and Chemistry of the Earth
Physics Letters A
Physics Reports
Physics Today
Planetary and Space Science
Plant, Cell & Environment
Plant Ecology
Plant Physiology
PLoS Biology
Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences: Engineering
Proceedings of the ICE - Civil Engineering
Proceedings of the International Astronomical Union
Proceedings of the International Geoscience and Remote Sensing Symposium
Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS)
Proceedings of the Royal Society A
Progress in Physical Geography
Public Administration Review
Pure and Applied Geophysics
Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics
Quarterly Journal of the Hungarian Meteorological Service
Quaternary International
Quaternary Research
Quaternary Science Reviews
Regulation
Risk Analysis
Russian Journal of Earth Sciences
Science
Science of the Total Environment
Science, Technology & Human Values
Scientia Horticulturae
Social Studies of Science
Society
Soil Science
Solar Physics
South African Journal of Science
Space Science Reviews
Spectrochimica Acta Part A: Molecular and Biomolecular Spectroscopy
Surveys in Geophysics
Technology
Tellus A
The Astrophysical Journal
The Cato Journa
The Electricity Journal
The Holocene
The Independent Review
The Lancet
The Lancet Infectious Diseases
The Open Atmospheric Science Journal
The Quarterly Review of Biology
The Review of Economics and Statistics
Theoretical and Applied Climatology
Topics in Catalysis
Waste Management
Water, Air, & Soil Pollution
Water Resources Research
Weather
Weather and Forecasting
World Economics

Journal Count: 223

etc The energy and environment journal which dominates the list is overseen by a right wing wacko who says this...

Please stop embarrassing yourself, the editor Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen is a Social-Democrat and E&E is less than 16% of the list.

When asked about the publication of these papers Boehmer-Christiansen replied, "I'm following my political agenda -- a bit, anyway. But isn't that the right of the editor?"

The correct interpretation,

"My political agenda is simple and open; it concerns the role of research ambitions in the making of policy.

I concluded from a research project about the IPCC - funded by the UK government during the mid 1990s - that this body was set up to support, initially, climate change research projects supported by the WMO and hence the rapidly evolving art and science of climate modeling. A little later the IPCC came to serve an intergovernmental treaty, the 1992 UN Framework Convention on Climate Change. This enshrines in law that future climate change would be warming caused by greenhouse gases (this remains debated), is man-made (to what an extend remains debated) as well as dangerous (remains debated). It became a task of the IPCC government selected and government funded, to support the theory that this man-made warming would be dangerous rather than beneficial, as some argue.

The solutions to this assumed problem were worked out by IPCC working group three, which worked largely independently of the science working group one and consisted primarily of parties interested in a 'green' energy agenda, including people from environment agencies, NGOs and environmental economics. This group supplied the science group with emission scenarios that have been widely criticized and which certainly enhanced the 'danger'. From interviews and my own reading I concluded that the climate science debate WAS BY NO MEANS OVER AND SHOULD CONTINUE. However, when I noticed that scientific critics of the IPCC science working group were increasingly side-lined and had difficulties being published - when offered the editorship of E&E, I decided to continue publishing 'climate skeptics' and document the politics associated with the science debate. The implications for energy policy and technology are obvious.

I myself have argued the cause of climate 'realism' - I am a geomorphologist by academic training before switching to environmental international relations - but do so on more the basis of political rather than science-based arguments. As far as the science of climate change is concerned, I would describe myself as agnostic.

In my opinion the global climate research enterprise must be considered as an independent political actor in environmental politics. I have widely published on this subject myself, and my own research conclusions have influenced my editorial policy. I also rely on an excellent and most helpful editorial board which includes a number of experienced scientists. Several of the most respected 'climate skeptics' regularly peer-review IPCC critical papers I publish."

- Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, Editor, Energy & Environment

You are going to have to do better than Wikipedia.

[Guest]

sorry sunshine....quoting half a page doesn't mean jack
won't verify those journal listings cos i can already see they have been ripoped from somewhere else but the first journal i saw was one whose editor openly states the content is political.....and worse....is bound to his OWN political views.

Now in lala land you can say that god created dinosaurs and man in the space of a week and that the "other science" is wrong cos the bible says so.....and thats fine cos we are not in the realm of science but of nutfarkers and we all know its political at heart but please don't tell me an editor who says his content is BOTH science and politically motivated is in any way diff from the jehovas witness i shot at sight last week

oh and the world is no longer flat

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sorry sunshine....quoting half a page doesn't mean jack won't verify those journal listings cos i can already see they have been ripoped from somewhere else

Big boy, get checking because they are all listed. Yes the journal listing is ripped from the actual page, which you obviously never checked, try scrolling down.

but the first journal i saw was one whose editor openly states the content is political.....and worse....is bound to his OWN political views.

No that is not what she stated, I provided an explanation of her political views. Social-Democratic political views not "right-wing".

Now in lala land you can say that god created dinosaurs and man in the space of a week and that the "other science" is wrong cos the bible says so.....and thats fine cos we are not in the realm of science but of nutfarkers and we all know its political at heart but please don't tell me an editor who says his content is BOTH science and politically motivated is in any way diff from the jehovas witness i shot at sight last week

oh and the world is no longer flat

Aw, poor baby do you think I am religious? Too bad I am agnostic and support evolution theory. Just like everything else you have been proven wrong about so far, this has to be embarrassing. It is good to know the world is not flat since that was once the consensus too.

Come on big boy get checking... I'll be waiting.

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No that is not what she stated, I provided an explanation of her political views. Social-Democratic political views not "right-wing".

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oh oh
reminds me of fox news.....defer defer DDDDDEEEFFFER to the trivial.......fark its a she not a he...........discount ANY OTHER ARGUEMENT.......and when the word politics is used........frame it in left vs right or better still ,,,,align to a political party cos the world is black and white.....a fight btw good and evil and sarah palin is not a soccer mum but a political conservative republican who fights the good fight

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oh oh
reminds me of fox news.....defer defer DDDDDEEEFFFER to the trivial.......fark its a she not a he..........

I understand how embarrassing it is to correct your misinformation but you will get over it big boy.

frame it in left vs right

Too funny... "The energy and environment journal which dominates the list is overseen by a right wing wacko"

and sarah palin is not a soccer mum but a political conservative republican who fights the good fight

Oh look he keeps striking out!

This is getting embarrassing. Does this digging for silly stereo-types usually work? You just keep failing.

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Still waiting on your checking of the journal citation list....

Come on big boy you can do it.

[Guest]

sorry sunshine....quoting half a page doesn't mean jack
won't verify those journal listings cos i can already see they have been ripoped from somewhere else but the first journal i saw was one whose editor openly states the content is political.....and worse....is bound to his OWN political views.

Now in lala land you can say that god created dinosaurs and man in the space of a week and that the "other science" is wrong cos the bible says so.....and thats fine cos we are not in the realm of science but of nutfarkers and we all know its political at heart but please don't tell me an editor who says his content is BOTH science and politically motivated is in any way diff from the jehovas witness i shot at sight last week

oh and the world is no longer flat

So do you believe the IPCC?

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So do you believe the IPCC?

RSVP I like your buddy Poppedtoosoon he really puts in the hard yards for the cause.