800 Peer Reviewed Papers Deny Man Made CC

[Guest]

Yes pts the party of "NO" did a good job last time of taking the economy over a cliff and with leading lights like Sarah Palin and old Newt I think the world is rightly scared what they will do next time.

It helps if you understand economics and what really caused the crisis - government intervention in the economy,

Understanding the financial crisis (Video) (8min)

Meltdown: A Free-Market Look at Why the Stock Market Collapsed, the Economy Tanked, and Government Bailouts Will Make Things Worse (Thomas E. Woods Jr., Ph.D. History, 2009)

For the record Palin and Newt don't have a clue.

[Guest]

Thank God global warming is a myth or we'd all be toast

http://www.news.com.au/world/russian...-1225903171451

Weather is not climate.

[Kingbilly]

Wow the new resident retard joins the fray

wonderful conservative strategy.......don't talk about it........just do it.........it will all work out..........or THE MARKET IS ALWAYS RIGHT.....lol

Good to see you don't agree, goes a fair way to adding credibility to my statement.

Lets just blame Anasta.

As I mentioned at some stage earlier the arguement about GW is irrelevant.
Bit like you really

[Guest]

i agree with the point made earlier too-of course the dates of articles are relevant-years ago scientists thought the world was flat-new research frequently disproves or changes the findings!!! i'm sure theres articles in the past that support nearly any crazy shit i can come up with! if you're trying to convince someone of an argument at least present current fact and research

There are over 650 papers published since 2000 on the list.

So do you reject the Svante Arrhenius's 1896 paper "On the influence of carbonic acid in the air upon the temperature of the ground" and the basis for greenhouse theory?

[Guest]

It helps if you understand economics and what really caused the crisis - government intervention in the economy,

Understanding the financial crisis (Video) (8min)

Meltdown: A Free-Market Look at Why the Stock Market Collapsed, the Economy Tanked, and Government Bailouts Will Make Things Worse (Thomas E. Woods Jr., Ph.D. History, 2009)

For the record Palin and Newt don't have a clue.

Wall st unteathered had nothing to do with it? How much has the George Bush (senior and Jr) world conquest effort added to the deficit together with the bush tax cuts? Why did the deficit increase so rapidly under Bush (leaving Obama sucking on a lemon) after clinton managed balanced budgets?

[Guest]

Weather is not climate.

Good you were listening when Keith was talking

[Guest]

Wall st unteathered had nothing to do with it? How much has the George Bush (senior and Jr) world conquest effort added to the deficit together with the bush tax cuts? Why did the deficit increase so rapidly under Bush (leaving Obama sucking on a lemon) after clinton managed balanced budgets?

Wall St. unteathered? What? Lack of regulation does not cause a financial crisis and there was plenty of regulation, thousands of pages of regulations. Financial regulations simply distort markets and restrict growth. Regulations benefit big businesses at the expense of smaller ones because they have the money and manpower to comply with them. All economic illiterates think regulations solve problems, wrong they simply cause new ones. The Bush tax cuts were not a problem, they helped fuel economic growth. Now I agree Bush was irresponsible with spending which caused a deficit but that did not cause the financial crisis. Bush did contribute to the problem by pushing for distortions in the housing market and home ownership. It is simply impossible however for the housing bubble to have happened without the existence of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Reserve. Without socialized losses no one would have risked their money on housing and thus no bubble. The government subsidized losses through F. Mae and F. Mac and the Fed provided the easy money to do it via low interest rates.

Obama is the most economically illiterate president since Richard Nixon, that idiot gets a deficit and makes it ten times larger! Then of course the sheep blame Bush for him increasing the deficit? Absolutely clueless.

What socialists do not understand is you balance the budget by reducing spending, entitlements and government employees not raising taxes. But for a socialist to understand these things they would first have to have had a proper economic education and likely run a successful business.

[Guest]

But for a socialist to understand these things they would first have to have had a proper economic education and likely run a successful business.

Yes George "he tried to kill ma daddy" W was an economic genius. He had a "proper economic education". His buddies were not responsible in any way for the corporate free for all that nearly brought the USA to its knees.
One might say Obama has spent to much stimulating that god fearing land.............the socialist........cos of course the USA ...despite 10% unemployment, close to 0 interest rates and a deficit sprinting out of control...will be saved by GOD the free market.......it will all work itself out........god willing

[Guest]

Yes George "he tried to kill ma daddy" W was an economic genius. He had a "proper economic education". His buddies were not responsible in any way for the corporate free for all that nearly brought the USA to its knees.

No he was not an economic genius but your lack of economic education is why you do not understand what happened.

One might say Obama has spent to much stimulating that god fearing land.............the socialist........cos of course the USA ...despite 10% unemployment, close to 0 interest rates and a deficit sprinting out of control...will be saved by GOD the free market.......it will all work itself out........god willing

Only economic illiterates think "stimulus" works. You forget the economic illiterate Obama said unemployment would never get over 8%. The only way to fix a bubble is to let it pop and the economy reallocate resources on it's own, yes the free market would have fixed this already if the government got out of the way. There is nothing religious about the free market but again to understand it requires a proper economic education.

[Guest]

No he was not an economic genius but your lack of economic education is why you do not understand what happened.


Only economic illiterates think "stimulus" works. You forget the economic illiterate Obama said unemployment would never get over 8%. The only way to fix a bubble is to let it pop and the economy reallocate resources on it's own, yes the free market would have fixed this already if the government got out of the way. There is nothing religious about the free market but again to understand it requires a proper economic education.

This stimulus seemed to work in Australia PTS but our right wing looney obstructionists are not listened to by the masses as much as in the United States of Paranoia. Also as you are an educated economic literate you might be able to explain to me how unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy can reduce unemployment.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=Poptech;73546]No he was not an economic genius but your lack of economic education is why you do not understand what happened.


Only economic illiterates think "stimulus" works. You forget the economic illiterate Obama said unemployment would never get over 8%. The only way to fix a bubble is to let it pop and the economy reallocate resources on it's own, yes the free market would have fixed this already if the government got out of the way. There is nothing religious about the free market but again to understand it requires a proper economic education.[/QUOT

There is NOTHING intelligent in what you have said. Essentially you are saying "just let the market sort it out".
Funny how right wing nut jobs are pathetically passive (ie conserve the status quo) with the market and obstructionist vampires when it comes to international relations (ie wipe em out and the let the market work it self out).

Sub prime crisis and Iraq disgrace and all that followed testifies to how stupid that was. Out of the ashes arose Palin. Republicans rejoice. In OZ we have Abott and barnaby. Rejoice.

[Guest]

This stimulus seemed to work in Australia PTS but our right wing looney obstructionists are not listened to by the masses as much as in the United States of Paranoia. Also as you are an educated economic literate you might be able to explain to me how unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy can reduce unemployment.

Stimulus spending is based on economic illiteracy as it does nothing but inefficiently redistribute wealth. Governments have no wealth they simply take it from the private sector and squander it on nonsense,

Budget papers fudged to boost Rudd's stimulus effect (IPS)
Does fiscal stimulus work? What Nobel Price winners say (IPA)

Tax cuts increase the amount of capital available in the economy for investment and spending thus increasing employment related to these activities. Your confusion is that tax cuts can be unfunded, that is illogical. Only government spending can be unfunded and dealing with that is simply a matter of cutting spending.

Last I checked a poor man never gave me a job.

[Guest]

Essentially you are saying "just let the market sort it out".

Funny how right wing nut jobs are pathetically passive (ie conserve the status quo) with the market and obstructionist vampires when it comes to international relations (ie wipe em out and the let the market work it self out).

Sub prime crisis and Iraq disgrace and all that followed testifies to how stupid that was. Out of the ashes arose Palin. Republicans rejoice. In OZ we have Abott and barnaby. Rejoice.

Again I am not right wing and your strawman about my position on international relations is due to your ability to buy into propaganda. You are very confused as there are more than just right and left political positions.

[Guest]

Stimulus spending is based on economic illiteracy as it does nothing but inefficiently redistribute wealth. Governments have no wealth they simply take it from the private sector and squander it on nonsense,

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Reminds me of Barnabys analogy that government is like a household and should not spend on anything but the necessities. Gee, feel sorry for all those future generations who will still be waiting for "THE MARKET" to choose to invest in anything more than blinkered self interest.
Abott doesn't like broadband cos wirelss works just fine

[Guest]

Reminds me of Barnabys analogy that government is like a household and should not spend on anything but the necessities. Gee, feel sorry for all those future generations who will still be waiting for "THE MARKET" to choose to invest in anything more than blinkered self interest.
Abott doesn't like broadband cos wirelss works just fine

Go read up on the 1921 depression in America that would change your tune.