Common sense prevailed

[Guest]

Thank God and the electorate we didn't get the mad monk.
Hooray for fairness
Hooray for social conscience

[Kingbilly]

I can take their decision, the only thing I don't understand is why Windsor is saying he based his decision in a big way based on the fibre optic NBN when it doesn't benefit the rural folk at all.
Relatives I have in the country say they are more about their mobile reception that broadband and surely a mobile broadband scenario is a much better fit. It will improve mobile phone coverage as well as give a decent boradband service to the country.

I hope he wakes up and realises that and gets the national broaband policy adapted to rural Australia's REAL requirement.

[Fairfax]

I agree with him. Common sense has prevailed.

[Kingbilly]

Its not common sense, its not social conscious its not even fairness.

Its not not those either, its simply a decision that agrees with your opinions.
Don't get that confused with right or wrong.

[Guest]

Just hope you will be thanking them a few years down the track when the price of everything will go through the roof with the introduction of a carbon tax and or an ETS just so the filthy rich bankers can line there pockets even further with our money?

[Rocky Rhodes]

I can take their decision, the only thing I don't understand is why Windsor is saying he based his decision in a big way based on the fibre optic NBN when it doesn't benefit the rural folk at all.
Relatives I have in the country say they are more about their mobile reception that broadband and surely a mobile broadband scenario is a much better fit. It will improve mobile phone coverage as well as give a decent boradband service to the country.

I hope he wakes up and realises that and gets the national broaband policy adapted to rural Australia's REAL requirement.

The NBN is not all fibre optics. Read below

Next Generation Wireless and Satellite Technologies

The Government is also announcing that NBN Co will be responsible for delivering the wireless and satellite components of the network.

Next generation wireless services to 4 per cent of premises and satellite services to 3 per cent will deliver speeds of 12 megabits per second – with average data rates more than 20 times higher than most users of these technologies experience today.

Wireless is very unreliable imo, on a cloudy day the service is slow and unreliable.

[Guest]

Just hope you will be thanking them a few years down the track when the price of everything will go through the roof with the introduction of a carbon tax and or an ETS just so the filthy rich bankers can line there pockets even further with our money?

aw poor liitle ultra conservative christian capitalist. No Abott or Bishop to supplicate to?

Barnaby and Bishop are gone. Sacificial lambs now. Barnabies abuse of independents on election night was superb. Bishop and her 24 hour stare have proven unpersuasive.

My money is on Turnbull challenging within 6 months. But Pyne has massive ambition and will be plotting hard but in the end will only get Barnaby to attack.

Imagine Abott had of won and then Sarah Palin was voted in in US. It would of been time to donn the armour, jump on the trusty steed and crusade hard/

[Guest]

aw poor liitle ultra conservative christian capitalist. No Abott or Bishop to supplicate to?

Barnaby and Bishop are gone. Sacificial lambs now. Barnabies abuse of independents on election night was superb. Bishop and her 24 hour stare have proven unpersuasive.

My money is on Turnbull challenging within 6 months. But Pyne has massive ambition and will be plotting hard but in the end will only get Barnaby to attack.

Imagine Abott had of won and then Sarah Palin was voted in in US. It would of been time to donn the armour, jump on the trusty steed and crusade hard/

You must have the wrong person mate I'm not an ultra conservative and I'm an atheist. Anyway how does your conscience feel in helping too further enrich the bankers?

[Guest]

You must have the wrong person mate I'm not an ultra conservative and I'm an atheist. Anyway how does your conscience feel in helping too further enrich the bankers?

RCPTN
Labour won. They have formed a minority govt with the greens and 3 indo/s. The Libs are in opp. Wake up.

oh and if you don't like it go up to North Queensland with Katter. Me thinks his camp hat and macho cowboy aesthetic point to fun and games

[Guest]

RCPTN
Labour won. They have formed a minority govt with the greens and 3 indo/s. The Libs are in opp. Wake up.

oh and if you don't like it go up to North Queensland with Katter. Me thinks his camp hat and macho cowboy aesthetic point to fun and games

Mate you obviously fail to see that the real reason that carbon trading is being pushed on us is because the big banks of the world want us all to have to trade carbon credits individually in the not to distant future (probably as little as 5 - 10 years from now). The previous British government were looking into how to implement a carbon credits card 5 years ago which they wanted to be a worldwide thing, David Milliband was the minister involved and he is the likely future Labour leader in the UK.

[Kingbilly]

The NBN is not all fibre optics. Read below



Wireless is very unreliable imo, on a cloudy day the service is slow and unreliable.

Yes and No.
The majority of the expense and the selling point of the NBN is the fibre optic story.....

Wireles unreliable on a cloudy day, nah not if you have a decent modem,
Most of the USB sticks that flooded the market are not that highly speced.

The main idea I had the problem with is that he NBN aint going to do anything for the country folk, Windsor is kidding himself about that

[Fairfax]

Yes and No.
The majority of the expense and the selling point of the NBN is the fibre optic story.....

Wireles unreliable on a cloudy day, nah not if you have a decent modem,
Most of the USB sticks that flooded the market are not that highly speced.

The main idea I had the problem with is that he NBN aint going to do anything for the country folk, Windsor is kidding himself about that

Ahem... let me offer the benefit of my one of my fields of expertise. The wireless they are talking about is not the 3G style modems but wireless delivered by direct line of sight to radio receivers. I have both sizeable wireless link like that at home and my office as well as domestic Optus cable. In my office we can deliver 40mb uncontended and it's fast. It's also very flaky. It is unreliable under adverse weather conditions. Cable modems, using fibre optic to the node is anybody's preferred option. Wireless is not in the same league.

I guess you must be getting your facts from Tony Abbott.

[Kingbilly]

no actually getting my facts from people in the industry overseas.
And a bit of common sense regarding the use of fibre optics for rural areas.

Fibre optics is a great solution but its only practical in areas of decent population.

[Guest]

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. And I do mean forever."

From Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell.

I felt it only appropriate after today.

[Fairfax]

no actually getting my facts from people in the industry overseas.
And a bit of common sense regarding the use of fibre optics for rural areas.

Fibre optics is a great solution but its only practical in areas of decent population.

That's why this is a good idea. Providing high quality affordable reliable access to regional areas using fibre will help education, delivery of health services and business. It may appear expensive, but will be viewed as a great nation building exercise in years to come... long after this political cycle is over and forgotten.

Ideas that do not meet some contrived short term economic test don't come along often nowadays. Using that method, we wouldn't have an Opera House, Harbour Bridge or the Snowy River Scheme.

Sometimes we need to do things because they are the right thing to do and sometimes because it is a good idea, This time it is both.