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Originally posted by my_dogs_named_fitzy View Postyou've missed the point completely trenticles. music isnt good or bad because someone tells you its right or wrong. its completely objective. just because someone has decided that beyonce can wail the "right" way doesnt mean we all have to think she's a good singer
I too think Beyonces warbling sounds like a strangled cat.I didn't mind her in Dream Girls though,her vocals sounded thinner in that but that was more the fact she was playing the Dianna Ross character and trying to create that sound.
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i know nothing about wine so i cant comment there..however i disagree with you as you disagree with me...you can judge the abilities of a vocalist completely objectively on the basis of their abilities under the banner of pitch and the like..
all biases aside, beyonce is a brilliant technical vocalist..
now, talking objectively...i loathe rock music...however, i can say objectively that anthony of RHCP is a very good vocalist...the list goes on
point being, the abilities of a vocalist can be stated without accounting for personal taste
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Originally posted by trenty View Posti know nothing about wine so i cant comment there..however i disagree with you as you disagree with me...you can judge the abilities of a vocalist completely objectively on the basis of their abilities under the banner of pitch and the like..
all biases aside, beyonce is a brilliant technical vocalist..
now, talking objectively...i loathe rock music...however, i can say objectively that anthony of RHCP is a very good vocalist...the list goes on
point being, the abilities of a vocalist can be stated without accounting for personal taste
I have seen beyonce live, and i could not belive i paid to listen to that !!!! you can allow for mistakes while a performer sings live, hey they are human, BUT there is no excuse for what beyonce dished out.
Strangled cat was an understatement.
You want to hear a performer live that has a great technical voice? go listen to Delta goodrem live.
She is technically better live than beyonce, Alecia Keys is another that is technically better live than beyonce.
Add joss stone to that list, pink, Chrissie Amphlet, kylie, Madonna, hell i would put kelly clarkson before beyonce.
While beyonce may put up a good show and make a good video clip, live she is well below par for a perfomer with such a so called "brilliant technical ability".
See trent it is like editing or photoshoping a picture.
A photo of me can be made to look like i am cut like a slice of cheese, once people see me live, they can see how many slices of cheese i eat !
Same beyonce, she is made to sound good on a video clip that can be edited, but live, there is nowhere to hide. there are many singers in the same boat as her, britney, Ashlee simpson, Jessica Simpson to name a few
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Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FCAt a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09The fireworks at the Easter show are making more noise than the crowd tonight
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Originally posted by supermario View PostBeing a good vocalist on a video clip and being a good vocalist live are 2 different things.
I have seen beyonce live, and i could not belive i paid to listen to that !!!! you can allow for mistakes while a performer sings live, hey they are human, BUT there is no excuse for what beyonce dished out.
Strangled cat was an understatement.
You want to hear a performer live that has a great technical voice? go listen to Delta goodrem live.
She is technically better live than beyonce, Alecia Keys is another that is technically better live than beyonce.
Add joss stone to that list, pink, Chrissie Amphlet, kylie, Madonna, hell i would put kelly clarkson before beyonce.
While beyonce may put up a good show and make a good video clip, live she is well below par for a perfomer with such a so called "brilliant technical ability".
See trent it is like editing or photoshoping a picture.
A photo of me can be made to look like i am cut like a slice of cheese, once people see me live, they can see how many slices of cheese i eat !
Same beyonce, she is made to sound good on a video clip that can be edited, but live, there is nowhere to hide. there are many singers in the same boat as her, britney, Ashlee simpson, Jessica Simpson to name a few
I have also heard beyonce live..she didnt sing a note out of tune and the vocal gymnastics were absolutely incredible...P!NK and delta are good but they are no in the same league as beyonce..P!NK is so raspy that it is often distorted and delta tends to be screechy in her higher register (brilliant pianist though)..
and madonna? dont make me laugh..i will admit that madonna puts on a brilliant stage show and there are few 50 year olds with a body like that but as a vocalist..basic pop singer, nothing special.. a career based around a gimmick.
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Originally posted by trenty View Postand madonna? dont make me laugh..i will admit that madonna puts on a brilliant stage show and there are few 50 year olds with a body like that but as a vocalist..basic pop singer, nothing special.. a career based around a gimmick.
Do you think if Beyonce was not able to shake that size 18 arse that she would actually have a career????
please trent, think about what you type.
Delecto Oriens est odio Meridianus
To love Easts is to hate Souffs
Originally posted by Bill Shankley, Liverpool FCAt a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques.Originally posted by Andy Raymond Commentating Souffs V Manly 18/04/09The fireworks at the Easter show are making more noise than the crowd tonight
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