Australians are as gullibly stupid as Americans!

[Guest]

bullshit
absolutely rolled gold bullshit
obviously the song sheet you are reading from has nothing about,people like you who have to survive in business with electricity prices that have risen for the sector at least 30% in the last 3 years.
Now the Brown Green algae is spreading over Australia,I am afraid to open my next acct,ay both my home or business.
Talk to me in another 12 months matey,and let me know how your 'theories' are going in the real world,because your hymn sheet is full of holes,big holes.

[Guest]

bullshit
absolutely rolled gold bullshit
obviously the song sheet you are reading from has nothing about,people like you who have to survive in business with electricity prices that have risen for the sector at least 30% in the last 3 years.
Now the Brown Green algae is spreading over Australia,I am afraid to open my next acct,ay both my home or business.
Talk to me in another 12 months matey,and let me know how your 'theories' are going in the real world,because your hymn sheet is full of holes,big holes.

I invoked Homer Simpson, I hope you know I was joking.

This is why there should be a irony button.

I've always thought of Chook as a burned out hippie whose frontal lobe was adversely affected (literally the right word for that) by consumption of something from the Cannabaceae order of plants.

I apologize for any confusion.

[crikey chris]

Both renewable and 'non-renewable' energy has to co-exist. And they can.

Getting rid of the coal industry is not economically viable for Australia. Relying on solar panels and windmills does not produce enough energy to power businesses and households. I have no issues with solar panels, just that the grid needs 'more juice' to operate. Unless you can store a massive amount of solar energy, which at the moment does not exist, it is dumb to destroy the coal industry.

And regarding windmills, firstly overseas data shows that it takes around 35yrs to off-set the energy needed to produce a windmill! You still need the steel and coal industry around to make them. They do not produce enough energy. The noise is unbearable. They basically don't work.

All this hysteria of how implimenting a tax is going to reduce temperatures and 'save the planet'. Really!
How dumb are we to believe this rubbish.

And now that Bob Brown and his ferral unwashed mates control the senate, thinks will get worse.

Bob and the FABIAN Bogan Ranga will destroy what is left of the economy, and the industries that keep it afloat.

From where will all the monies needed to fill the governments pockets come from, when the mining industry is destroyed by the Greens? How will we afford to keep the overinflated and out of control welfare system in place? Yep another tax!

And how will sending 10% of tax collected off to the United Nations help everyday Australians make ends meet? It won't. This tax has nothing to do with the enviroment. It is all about WEALTH DISTRIBUTION.

Bring on the next election. The Fabian Bogan Ranga and that Tassie poof have been exposed. How many votes does a Tassie need to get a seat, 50? Even though Abbott is a tool, we have the worst elected politicians and opposition since Whitlam. The Ranga Bogan is the love child of Whitlam. The Greens are just filth. Basically a watermelon, green on the outside, red on the inside.

Scary times ahead!

[Guest]

Not to be too dramatic but there is one week for this nation to survive with those monsters in power. Just one week, and if we can survive that week with nothing being done then I believe that something will change over the six week break.

[crikey chris]

This carbon Tax debate is like being asked if you want a new car and you have to agree before you are told how much it will cost or if it has an engine. Talk about logic!

There has been a lot of scaremongering in the media, but there is nothing wrong with NATURALLY PRODUCED Co2! It all began with Al Gore's FICTIONAL doco, trying to scare the shit out of everyone.
Naturally produced Co2 has got a bad rap from people who want to con the brain dead out of a big chunk of cash. But I still would like to see clean energy expanded as we are burning through our reserves of fossil fuel fast. Scaring people is not the way to do it.

Seeing how the current Labor shitheads keep blowing cash left, right and centre, would hate to see this new tax being spent on fixing the pink batts fiasco and desal plants, and god knows what other crap the Fabian Bogan Ranga and the Green commie filth backdoor Brown can come up with, resulting in no real benefit to any but the chosen few. Not even the Chinese are this farked up.

The biggest gainers in this hoax will be the carbon credit trading companies, which Al Gore just happens to be a director of a couple of these in the US! Enviromental capitalism working at its best. I can just imagine hearing Al Gore laughing all the way to the bank, while he is in his stretch limo on the way to board his private jet. Now thats a carbon footprint!!!

Carbon dioxide (Co2) is the principal gas that trees and other plants need to survive, just like oxygen (o2) is the principal gas that humans and other animals require. Trees absorb Co2 and release O2-- animals inhale o2 and exhale Co2. See how nice this all works!

Carbon dioxide (Co2) is not to be confused with its poisonous evil cousin carbon monoxide (Co), which can kill humans and animals in just a few minutes. Life as we know it could not exist without carbon dioxide in our atmosphere.

This is where the alarmists get confused. Steam from factory chimnies is portrayed as carbon monoxide pollution. The "carbon Cate" advert is a blatant lie.

Quite ironic how the Greenie filth want less Co2, but want more trees!

I cannot believe people have fallen for this crap.

Bobbie Brown can choke on his next lentil burger for all i care..........

[Guest]

I would dearly love to write something about Bob Brown but he knows lawyers and he's quite possibly a vexatious litigant.

[Kingbilly]

This carbon Tax debate is like being asked if you want a new car and you have to agree before you are told how much it will cost or if it has an engine. Talk about logic!
..........

But given one of those cardboard box cars they used to use on Romper Room.

Tote whatever political line you want, but the Greens and the Labor party are destroying this country like no other government before it

[Guest]

Every economist in the country says a carbon tax is the best way forward for a market based solution and for business confidence. None of them, I repeat NONE OF THEM advocate for Blabbott's "Direct action" gabbage.

You can be scared by Allan Jones and his hyperbole bullshit, I'll listen to people that know what they are talking about.

Chook.

[Guest]

John Hewson, an economist, has been touting the benefits of pricing carbon dioxide in a market based system for several years now. I was almost willing to listen to him until I found out that he has, like Bob Carr and Malcolm Turnbull who are also champions of this system, ties to the Macquarie bank who will be benefiting directly from a E.T.S.

This is the most brilliant scheme (or it would be if it was going to work) that's been designed since the now debunked Chloroflurocarbon spray can nonsense of 20 years ago. Big business has convinced the burned out hippies and drug addled youth that something that's going to make them a monstrous amount of money at the expense of the rest of the population.

Thankfully there are enough people who know it's a fraud.

[Kingbilly]

Every economist in the country says a carbon tax is the best way forward for a market based solution and for business confidence. Chook.

Absolute bullshit.
My cousin is a leading economist with Macquarie Bank, he, several of his collegues and some friends in investment banking all see how there is money to be made, but privately think the whole thing is a sad laughable joke. Its general concensus of the friends I have that working in the financial industry that it will do absolutely nothing for the environment.

Stop making "gillardesque" (Read baseless political doctine) comments to fight your losing arguement

[Guest]

A better option would be to abolish negative gearing. Watch all the macmansion bogans scream as there 100inch plasmas burn while the edifice comes tumbling down. Bogans are the most rabid consumerists ever. Destroy them and you will have your arcadia

[Guest]

Looky, I've touted that and taxing family trusts as an economic stimulator since I joined the A.L.P. I brought it up as an idea at my first Federal Electoral Council meeting back in the early 90s. I was stared at like I advocated pedophilia.

Not realizing that the federal member at the time and the subsequent ones who followed had several family trusts.

[Guest]

Absolute bullshit.
My cousin is a leading economist with Macquarie Bank, he, several of his collegues and some friends in investment banking all see how there is money to be made, but privately think the whole thing is a sad laughable joke. Its general concensus of the friends I have that working in the financial industry that it will do absolutely nothing for the environment.

Stop making "gillardesque" (Read baseless political doctine) comments to fight your losing arguement

lol your cousin...

Here's an open letter from several leading economists calling for a carbon tax.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...02/3233627.htm

It might not be an article from such a reliable source as your cousin, but it's all I can do on short notice. /rolleyes

Chook.

[Guest]

Every economist in the country says a carbon tax is the best way forward for a market based solution and for business confidence. None of them, I repeat NONE OF THEM advocate for Blabbott's "Direct action" gabbage.

You can be scared by Allan Jones and his hyperbole bullshit, I'll listen to people that know what they are talking about.

Chook.

And how many of those economists warned us of a coming GFC?

How many work for for financial institutions that will profit from all this?

CASE CLOSED

[Guest]

John Hewson, an economist, has been touting the benefits of pricing carbon dioxide in a market based system for several years now. I was almost willing to listen to him until I found out that he has, like Bob Carr and Malcolm Turnbull who are also champions of this system, ties to the Macquarie bank who will be benefiting directly from a E.T.S.

This is the most brilliant scheme (or it would be if it was going to work) that's been designed since the now debunked Chloroflurocarbon spray can nonsense of 20 years ago. Big business has convinced the burned out hippies and drug addled youth that something that's going to make them a monstrous amount of money at the expense of the rest of the population.

Thankfully there are enough people who know it's a fraud.

Thats right Hewson is a bankster that will profit from an ETS.

Sad thing is shows like QandA and Sky News trot him out regularly as a representive of the conservative side of politics knowing full well his current business and motives re ETS