Australians are as gullibly stupid as Americans!

[Guest]

Here's a pillar of the mining industry and a chief architect of the mining industry add campaign designed to lie to Australians, Andrew "twiggy" Forrest being found out lying previously to his bullshit adds.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-g...220-1b113.html
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I hope they break this lying, two-faced, manipulative prick wide open and deny him directorship of his own company. Fark him!

This is what capitalism is built on, lies lies lies and more farking lies!

Chook.

[melon....]

Here's a pillar of the mining industry and a chief architect of the mining industry add campaign designed to lie to Australians, Andrew "twiggy" Forrest being found out lying previously to his bullshit adds.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-g...220-1b113.html
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I hope they break this lying, two-faced, manipulative prick wide open and deny him directorship of his own company. Fark him!

This is what capitalism is built on, lies lies lies and more farking lies!

Chook.

Chook, why is Wayne Swan excluding Banks from paying a super profits tax? Why target the only industry that keeps this nation afloat, mining? When banks who produce nothing, make profits are just as obscene?

[Kingbilly]

This is what capitalism is built on, lies lies lies and more farking lies!

Chook.

Unfortunately its not just capitalism, every form of society has people clammering for power and that always involves lies and deceite. Oh and lets not forget incompetence.
That comment is certainly no justification, but what is the alternative ?

Heres and interesting example, I work for quite a large international company. They screamed "woe is us" during the GFC and while the US arm (and to a smaller extent the European) suffered a bit, the company didn't tell many people about the millions they made playing the stock market betting on the GFC. And the Australian branch did fine during that period.

But now they Australian section is crying poor and because of the nature of the business I am very suspicious and think we are not being told the truth and/or the level of incompetence of middle management is well over average.

I also think that in Australia the "GFC" was used in many companies as an excuse to treat staff like cattle and excrement, without really having the problems that were experienced overseas (this was the point I was tryign to make earlier in this thread but problably didn't do wwvery well).

Do I think this is capitalism at its finest, no I think its more a case of
f$%kwits at large

[Guest]

Chook, why is Wayne Swan excluding Banks from paying a super profits tax? Why target the only industry that keeps this nation afloat, mining? When banks who produce nothing, make profits are just as obscene?

Interesting to see CBA CEO Ralph Norris re-raise the issue of the mining RSPT. He wants the miners to pay so that the banks don't.

I believe both banks and miners add massive risk to the economy and both should pay.

[Guest]

Chook, why is Wayne Swan excluding Banks from paying a super profits tax? Why target the only industry that keeps this nation afloat, mining? When banks who produce nothing, make profits are just as obscene?

I don't know to be honest melon. He should be smashing the banking industry and their "big 4" hold on the Australian loans and finance sector. After that he should take the insurance industry apart and bring those greedy pricks in line with more regulation. After that, I'd regulate the marketing and advertising industries so heavily it would need my permission to seek my permission. I'd make advertising junk food so hideously expensive it would raise the cost of a happy meal to $55.00. I would then destroy Wollies and Coles's monoply on setting food prices localy and drastically increase tarriffs on the purchase price of goods from overseas. Vote one Chook for PM!

The GFC proved beyond any doubt melon that left to their own devices, corporations and the rich will **** everyone over in any way they can to become richer. You may think that's capitalism and that's a good thing, but I don't. Making money off the misery of others, that's what parasites do melon and that is the basis of capitalism. And while there are many decent business owners out there trying to do the right thing by themselves and their employees, they are very few and far between and are outweighed by parasites dressed as capitalists.

Chook.

[melon....]

I don't know to be honest melon. He should be smashing the banking industry and their "big 4" hold on the Australian loans and finance sector. After that he should take the insurance industry apart and bring those greedy pricks in line with more regulation. After that, I'd regulate the marketing and advertising industries so heavily it would need my permission to seek my permission. I'd make advertising junk food so hideously expensive it would raise the cost of a happy meal to $55.00. I would then destroy Wollies and Coles's monoply on setting food prices localy and drastically increase tarriffs on the purchase price of goods from overseas. Vote one Chook for PM!

The GFC proved beyond any doubt melon that left to their own devices, corporations and the rich will **** everyone over in any way they can to become richer. You may think that's capitalism and that's a good thing, but I don't. Making money off the misery of others, that's what parasites do melon and that is the basis of capitalism. And while there are many decent business owners out there trying to do the right thing by themselves and their employees, they are very few and far between and are outweighed by parasites dressed as capitalists.

Chook.

The Northern Hemisphere mini recession, did in fact prove that successive Australian Governments had implemented the governance required to avoid such calculated greed. its a damn shame, teh current Aussie government didn't have the brains to realise that and wasted an entire generation's future fund.

But we got plasmas.

Roll on....

[Guest]

The Northern Hemisphere mini recession, did in fact prove that successive Australian Governments had implemented the governance required to avoid such calculated greed. its a damn shame, teh current Aussie government didn't have the brains to realise that and wasted an entire generation's future fund.
But we got plasmas.

Roll on....

Sorry mate but that is pure rubbish and nothing but liberal party spin. I'm surprised you fall for it and repeat it ad nausea. The stimulus worked as we were the only western economy that avoided recession during the GFC with every economist stating you don't run a surplus when you're heading for recession. Our debt is less than 6% of our GDP. We are not the economic basket case everyone liberal sycophant is painting.

Has labor wasted money, yes, pink batts etc. Has the coalition waste money, yes, loads of it on election tax breaks and early model plasmas.

Chook.

[supermario]

Has the coalition waste money, yes, loads of it on election tax breaks and early model plasmas.

Chook.

Yeah at least the Plasmas are cheaper under labor !!!!

[Guest]

Disagree with both of you. Melon, you are the liberal equivalent of a blind-faith religious nutter. Like the Howard government had nothing to do with the asset inflation, increase in foreign debt, inflation, diversion of resources to the mining sector, etc.

The libs shifted government debt to a much larger private debt of over 50% of GDP. They pat themselves on the back for getting rid of government debt ignorantly believing private debt is not their problem. But when the debt cash cow can no longer be milked, consumers stop spending, and the economy tanks. And as demonstration by every western government in the world the government ends up having to underwrite the private debt to ensure banking stability.

Many claps to the liberal government for getting the entire nation into unsustainable debt.... but at least we have a better quality of life and lots of infrastructure to show for it.... oh hang on..

[novice chook]

But we got plasmas.

Roll on....

Yes, just a pity that many in NSW can't afford the power bills to run them.

Oh the irony.

I just don't understand why the current government is so keen to club the mining industry with additional taxes, whilst every other industry appears to be exempt.

Surely the mining industry can't be the only one raking it in?? My suspicion is that it's just the easiest target for a lazy government who can't be bothered making some tough decisions.

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[stephenj]

maybe a plasma tv tax might be in order?

[Kramer]

maybe a plasma tv tax might be in order?

Dont worry indirectly there will be, an Carbon tax, on electricity consumers.

[Guest]

Yes, just a pity that many in NSW can't afford the power bills to run them.

Oh the irony.

I just don't understand why the current government is so keen to club the mining industry with additional taxes, whilst every other industry appears to be exempt.

Surely the mining industry can't be the only one raking it in?? My suspicion is that it's just the easiest target for a lazy government who can't be bothered making some tough decisions.

NC

Can you name another industry where companies are making a 71.5% increase in profits? The mining boom won't last, despite what the libs spin, so we need to build infrastucture while we can which means doing it now which means taxing the mining industry now.

Chook.

[Guest]

I'm sure you work for Labor Chook.

What do you do, spin doctor?

[novice chook]

Can you name another industry where companies are making a 71.5% increase in profits? The mining boom won't last, despite what the libs spin, so we need to build infrastucture while we can which means doing it now which means taxing the mining industry now.

Chook.

Sorry Chook but I can't agree with extra taxes on an industry just because it is successful. Especially when the money is being given to a government which has shown it has no clue when it comes to spending money wisely.

The current government will literally simply piss the extra funds up against the wall like 17 year olds at schoolies.

No meaningful infrastucture will be built unles you count a few more detention centres as such.


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