Domestic/International Politics

[Random Rooster]

The popular vote...most of the left all crammed into two states.
Under the electoral college system the votes of people in all states count...including the White folks in small towns HRC dissed bigtime, called "deplorables" etc. And lost herself the election.

We need defending.
Why?
Land...all that land we have, just sitting there waiting to be taken by anyone and everyone in Asia/Africa/Middle East etc.
What is stopping them?
Not our military might, not even as powerful as Indonesia's military.
China though seems to have decided to just buy Australia rather than take her by force.

America's military might is stopping any invaders.
The sooner those promised new US military bases appear here the better I'll like it.

Im sure there is no country in Africa or the Middle East that has any intentions - or capability- of travelling around the world to invade our land- especially when 70% of Australia is arid. Thats just ludicrous. So who are you worried about? Indonesia? Scomo's first visit overseas as PM was to Indonesia to conclude Indo-Aus Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement. You should look into it- our ties are strong as they should be with a neigbour.
China? What did you think when Tony Abbott signed the free trade deal with them? Were you against it? China was and still is pivotal in making Australia a wealthy country. Our governments on both sides are addicted to the money they inject into our economy. China are too smart to try and take any country by force & nor do the need to-it will never happen.

So who is left that would want to invade Australia?

[bondi.boy]

Im sure there is no country in Africa or the Middle East that has any intentions - or capability- of travelling around the world to invade our land- especially when 70% of Australia is arid. Thats just ludicrous. So who are you worried about? Indonesia? Scomo's first visit overseas as PM was to Indonesia to conclude Indo-Aus Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement. You should look into it- our ties are strong as they should be with a neigbour.
China? What did you think when Tony Abbott signed the free trade deal with them? Were you against it? China was and still is pivotal in making Australia a wealthy country. Our governments on both sides are addicted to the money they inject into our economy. China are too smart to try and take any country by force & nor do the need to-it will never happen.

So who is left that would want to invade Australia?

Indonesia.
Jakarta is sinking into the sea.
230 million population. More powerful military than ours.
Friendly neighbours, Britain tried that with Germany...got played for sucker.

Without the US, China could just walk in and take the lot.
It would soon build desalination plants by the thousands. It would water Australia, move its population in...all nice and comfortable. Top officials living in harbourside mansions.
China is already claiming ownership of the South China Sea, and building islands/military bases in it.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...es-south-china

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Im sure there is no country in Africa or the Middle East that has any intentions - or capability- of travelling around the world to invade our land- especially when 70% of Australia is arid. Thats just ludicrous. So who are you worried about? Indonesia? Scomo's first visit overseas as PM was to Indonesia to conclude Indo-Aus Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement. You should look into it- our ties are strong as they should be with a neigbour.
China? What did you think when Tony Abbott signed the free trade deal with them? Were you against it? China was and still is pivotal in making Australia a wealthy country. Our governments on both sides are addicted to the money they inject into our economy. China are too smart to try and take any country by force & nor do the need to-it will never happen.

So who is left that would want to invade Australia?

The biggest threat to the free world is Islamic extremism , including Australia. Not so much from being "invaded". They are already here.

Our intelligence forces have done amazing work, that we havent had more terrorist attacks, but the threat remains.

[The Skeez]

What, we need a modern day crusade?

[Random Rooster]

Indonesia.
Jakarta is sinking into the sea.
230 million population. More powerful military than ours.
Friendly neighbours, Britain tried that with Germany...got played for sucker.

Without the US, China could just walk in and take the lot.
It would soon build desalination plants by the thousands. It would water Australia, move its population in...all nice and comfortable. Top officials living in harbourside mansions.
China is already claiming ownership of the South China Sea, and building islands/military bases in it.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...es-south-china

So what were your thoughts on Tony Abbotts much lauded free trade agreement with China?

What do you think about the Australian government giving Indonesia 300 million in foreign aid in 2019?

[bondi.boy]

So what were your thoughts on Tony Abbotts much lauded free trade agreement with China?

What do you think about the Australian government giving Indonesia 300 million in foreign aid in 2019?

Ah yes, ChAFTA.
Sounds great on paper.
Recent events show that Alan Jones' words are true.

"Free trade is never free".

And recent events show what folly it was for Australia to basically sacrifice its soul on the altar of ChAFTA.
It's all turned to mush, like it was probably always going to do.
Our "Favoured Nation" status didn't last long. lol

Time to get our manufacturing industries back here, refine oil here again, make our own food, water Australia ourselves, get all our call centres back here. Reclaim the port of Darwin. Reclaim from China all our dairy farms, vital infrastructure, airports, farms, water supplies, companies etc.
The state newspaper in China's editor guy is correct...we are indeed gum stuck to the sole of China's shoe. Time to change that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...and-water.html

From farms and coal mines to airports and water supplies: How China is gobbling up millions of acres of land, vital infrastructure and companies - as part of its 'disturbing' plan to exert greater influence and control over Australia

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Indonesia?
Wouldn't give Indonesia the time of day, let alone $300m in foreign aid. It sure has plenty of money with which to buy military hardware , and does often, has a more powerful military than we do.

[bondi.boy]

Again from Fox, and Packer before that, is the lie that the US is a force for good in the world when they have been almost continually at war since their inception.
We love their popular culture which for the most part springs from an oppressed black minority but the power elite is The Great Satan that Third World countries suffer under. How much death and destruction does it and has it presided over? Assange showed us the casual massacre of a group of innocents in Bagdad but there has been death and destruction on a titanic scale since the Second World war including two Atom bombs on civilians. And didn't they play up when some arabs hit back on 9/11. What hypocrisy and Murdoch made people feel that it had happened to us here. We are now first in to help beat up some "enemy" whereas a century ago we voted twice (thanks to the Union movement) to not force our citizens to go to other nations' wars. That's where Murdoch's group think has got us and we should start thinking about the implications for our grandchildren.

I believe the US is a force for good in the world...better it than many others.
Continually at war?

Abraham Lincoln grew up in a log cabin in Kentucky.
He worked as a shopkeeper and a lawyer before entering politics in the 1840s.
Alarmed by his anti-slavery stance, seven southern states seceded soon after he was elected president in 1860—with four more states to soon follow.
Lincoln declared that he would do everything necessary to keep the United States united as one country.
He refused to recognize the southern states as an independent nation and the Civil War erupted in the spring of 1861. On January 1, 1863, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed the slaves in the areas of the country that "shall then be in rebellion against the United States." The Emancipation Proclamation laid the groundwork for the eventual freedom of slaves across the country.

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[bondi.boy]

From what I see so far I'm gonna my work cut out here. First up, where do these nonsensical ideas come from? From Murdoch is the general answer. Newscorpse owns 75% of our print media and is now able to own TV free to air as well. Its "news" is disseminated throughout other media including the ABC and Ray's show consists of reading The Terror to listeners on air. Without any really alternative voice to listen to, most people come to think that News Ltd represents a sort of consensus position like the word from on high - that's the danger because "Democracy" is supposed to rely on the populace being objectively informed so that reasoned argument can determine voting.
There also seems to be some woolly thinking about Trump from the posts above and that is down to Murdoch. as well. In many ways he is their creation, Fox News in the States was influential in his election (some say pivotal) and it is the reason that his popular support continues. Here Sky, The Australian (the Catholic Boys' Weekly) and the Tele are all strong supporters while elsewhere he is widely regarded as a buffoon, a nightmare well out of his depth, not worth considering except for the danger that he represents.
Again from Fox, and Packer before that, is the lie that the US is a force for good in the world when they have been almost continually at war since their inception. We love their popular culture which for the most part springs from an oppressed black minority but the power elite is The Great Satan that Third World countries suffer under. How much death and destruction does it and has it presided over? Assange showed us the casual massacre of a group of innocents in Bagdad but there has been death and destruction on a titanic scale since the Second World war including two Atom bombs on civilians. And didn't they play up when some arabs hit back on 9/11. What hypocrisy and Murdoch made people feel that it had happened to us here. We are now first in to help beat up some "enemy" whereas a century ago we voted twice (thanks to the Union movement) to not force our citizens to go to other nations' wars. That's where Murdoch's group think has got us and we should start thinking about the implications for our grandchildren.

Atom bombs?
9/11?

What did they think was going to happen, Uncle Samuel send flowers and chocolates?

[bondi.boy]

"Database error" I kept getting for the posts in green.
I tried to modify them.
Also tried to delete them, but to no avail.

[Old Man Rooster]

The biggest threat to the free world is Islamic extremism , including Australia. Not so much from being "invaded". They are already here.

Our intelligence forces have done amazing work, that we havent had more terrorist attacks, but the threat remains.

lol Islamaphobe. The only threat is China and all else is a distraction SJ.

[bondi.boy]

What, we need a modern day crusade?

We have one already.
Just that these days it's conducted a lot differently. The weapons being intelligence, surveillance, courts...not knights on horseback.