Coronavirus / Covid-19 Global Pandemic

[Andrew Walker]

haha, you've got a conspiracy theory going? don't agree with that one. it wasn't the virus that sunk trump, it was his handling of it.

but the news is good. it's early days but experts are saying it's a significant development. even if this vaccine isn't a cure all, they say, it does make it more likely that this virus might respond to other vaccines.

No conspiracy just stating the timing of it. Which is also mentioned in the link. So you are saying this is a vaccine that might respond to other vaccines. Then the next vaccine might respond to the one after that ? On and on and on we go LOL

[zac]

No conspiracy just stating the timing of it. Which is also mentioned in the link. So you are saying this is a vaccine that might respond to other vaccines. Then the next vaccine might respond to the one after that ? On and on and on we go LOL

this isn't the only vaccine in development to treat covid-19 but its apparent success might mean that other vaccines in development will also be effective in treating covid-19. there was a fear that the virus wouldn't respond to any vaccine.

early days but this could be big.

[Rooster1908]

Actually don't think it's early days at all.This and the Oxford are in late stage 3 trials which have large test groups .Dam good news and if it come from one of these two would think that it would be safe .

[Andrew Walker]

Let’s hope so

[Andrew Walker]

According to Kalus Schwab. Things will never return to normal.

https://www.afr.com/world/europe/whe...0200714-p55br2

[Andrew Walker]

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The UK Prime Minister’s remote speech to his party conference saw him dismiss the idea of returning to normality. Is he using Covid-19 to follow the World Economic Forum’s ‘Great Reset’ agenda, as many have warned?

‘It’s not really about public health or a virus. They have another agenda.’ That’s what the so-called ‘conspiracy theorists’ have been saying since March, when the first British lockdowns were imposed and our lives were turned upside down.

Those ‘conspiracy theorists’ were denounced, as always, as ‘cranks’ and ‘flat-Earthers’ but here we are in October, and, let’s face it, there is absolutely no sign, despite very low numbers of deaths ‘with’ Coronavirus, that we are returning to anything like normal. In fact, in his keynote speech yesterday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson specifically ruled out a return to normal, not even with a vaccine.

“After all we have been through, it isn’t enough just to go back to normal. We have lost too much. History teaches us that things of this magnitude – wars, famines, plagues, events that affect the vast bulk of humanity, as this virus has – they do not just come and go. They can be the trigger for economic and social change.”

When I heard Johnson utter those words I thought, ‘where have I heard this stuff before?’ Well, the answer is in the book ‘Covid-19: The Great Reset’ by Klaus Schwab, the executive chairman of the World Economic Forum, and Thierry Malleret. They too, like Johnson, invoked the Second World War as the trigger for fundamental changes, not only to the global order and global economy, but to society and the way human beings interact with one another. Like Johnson, they don’t want to return to normal. “Many of us are pondering when things will return to normal. The short response is never.”

LOL I had my mental health called into question on this thread by Random Rooster and some other clown whose name escapes me at present maybe Rented Tracksuit Just for showing the official websites of agenda 21/2030 and the World Economic forum and mentioned Kalus Schwab. These two flat out denied such things existed and attacked myself instead of the eveidence I provided. Never once did I mention conspiracy yet was viciously attacked all for attaching official documents. Well well well what do we have above and beneath is the link to what I have copied and pasted. Yes this is an opinion piece but it is mixed in with some vital facts. I had to point this out as in the otehr thread re the election Righteous Random Rooster was at his righteous worst with Roc 81 A nice slice of humble pie in order for both he and Rented Tracksuit.
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-bori...OzJUmRqEDxZr2g

[Andrew Walker]

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-bori...OzJUmRqEDxZr2g

To think I had my mental health attacked by two for showing official documents relating to this and was called a conspiracy theorist when all I did was show official documents that WEF and Agenda 21/2030 existed. Cmon Rented Tracksuit and Random Rooster time for you both to eat some humble pie, or attack this journalist and Boris Johnson for going way further than what I did.

[Random Rooster]

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-bori...OzJUmRqEDxZr2g

To think I had my mental health attacked by two for showing official documents relating to this and was called a conspiracy theorist when all I did was show official documents that WEF and Agenda 21/2030 existed. Cmon Rented Tracksuit and Random Rooster time for you both to eat some humble pie, or attack this journalist and Boris Johnson for going way further than what I did.

Yes Andy you are correct, The World Economic Forum does exist. In fact Pauline Hanson took it to parliament on Wednesday....and was pissed off because besides the One Nations Senator, the rest of the parliament thought she was joking......

https://themarketherald.com.au/pauli...et-2020-11-12/

A 'Think Tank" like the WEF is just that....they put forward ideas. Theres nothing binding. Yes Covid has changed the world in a lot of areas- some of those areas, like high tech, the changes are permanent and will move us into a new direction. I still don't understand where you're coming from with the WEF- you suggesting Covid was man made/or provided the opportunity to push us into this "great reset" and we should carry on like normal to keep the status quo?

Now i have re read some of our earlier posts here....and the initial topic was whether we should lock down & change how we live because of Covid. You didn't think we should .....and i think Australia has handled it really well. I answered your questions without any personal attacks-and just because i asked you "if you were in Scott Morrisons shoes what would you have done " you started with this "limited intellect" reply and went on the attack after that- thats ok. No hard feelings

I will ask you again-what would you have done differently in March if you were Scott Morrison? The whole world is going into lockdown due to this mystery virus that was killing people in the 1000s and you have Australia's top viral infection experts telling you shut down the economy because its spreading like wildfire & our hospitals may not be able to cope

I wasn't Scomo's greatest fan because of his handling of the bush fires....but his leadership & handling of Covid has been top notch and he deserves another term in office just on that alone.

I think what sets Australia apart from most countries is we care about every life-irrespective of age, class and background. Letting Covid rip through communities was never an option. Today i had to go to hospital for day surgery- had my temp taken at the door, had to sign in, they gave me a mask to put on and then sat in waiting room that had distancing rules. No problems. Can Australia have a second wave like Europe and the USA??- absolutely we can....but we are taking the right steps to avoid it -and we know what to do if it breaks out again.

Now i see that orange buffoon in the USA tweet how "sad" it was to see Fox ratings drop but it was their fault for killing the Golden Goose (himself).....on a day where 1400 Americans died....and the country getting absolutely annihilated with Covid cases totally out of control. When my old man was a teenager in Italy looking for employment he was given the choice of getting on a boat to America or Australia....thank God he chose the latter!!!

[Andrew Walker]

Yes Andy you are correct, The World Economic Forum does exist. In fact Pauline Hanson took it to parliament on Wednesday....and was pissed off because besides the One Nations Senator, the rest of the parliament thought she was joking......

https://themarketherald.com.au/pauli...et-2020-11-12/

I still don't understand where you're coming from with the WEF- you suggesting Covid was man made/or provided the opportunity to push us into this "great reset" and we should carry on like normal to keep the status quo?

Now i have re read some of our earlier posts here....and the initial topic was whether we should lock down & change how we live because of Covid. You didn't think we should .....and i think Australia has handled it really well. I answered your questions without any personal attacks-and just because i asked you "if you were in Scott Morrisons shoes what would you have done " you started with this "limited intellect" reply and went on the attack after that- thats ok. No hard feelings

I will ask you again-what would you have done differently in March if you were Scott Morrison? The whole world is going into lockdown due to this mystery virus that was killing people in the 1000s and you have Australia's top viral infection experts telling you shut down the economy because its spreading like wildfire & our hospitals may not be able to cope



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WEF was a reference to covid being used as an opportunity to fast track this great reset. I have no real issue with a green agenda. In fact I would be investing any money I have into that sector. The world is changing whether I like it or not. Change with it or get left behind. I know what I choose. That though does not mean I will blindly follow every mandate given. I see Qld has thrown out social distancing for Origin. Good for them some common sense being applied even if it is a desperate attempt to help Qld win and a political flex to boot.

You choose to misconstrue my comments to suit yourself and try to back yourself up but have failed miserably here. I questioned how long do we practice and maintain social distancing and the fact that I will shake hands and hug who I like when I like provided they are confortable with this. Your allegations that I did not think we should lock down are demonstrably false and evidenced in this thread. Now when asked by yourself previously as to what I would have done differently. I said I would have locked down for longer till the end of 2020 financial year. I thought we opened up too early. Your response to that was Morrisson was under pressure from business leaders to open up early. So much for your and Rented Tracksuits thoughts of lives over $$$. Seems you agree with Morrison opening up when he did due to that pressure, as you are going to vote for him over his handling over this When clearly his agenda was $$$ over lives.

Beneath is my initial response to your question which shows you make things up as you go along to try and suit yourself.






What would I have done differently if I was Morrison Great question and the only thing I ffind to be of any real substance in your response. I expect this will suprise you. In that I would not have allowed the country to open up as early as it did. I would have opened up July 1 start of the new financial year. I am not sure what power he has over the states with that. We opened up too early and Victorians paid a huge price for that aided by the quarantine fcuk up there and I think we would be in an even better place now than the good place we are in.



Last edited by Andrew Walker; 10-30-2020, 11:41 AM.

[rented tracksuit]

WEF was a reference to covid being used as an opportunity to fast track this great reset. I have no real issue with a green agenda. In fact I would be investing any money I have into that sector. The world is changing whether I like it or not. Change with it or get left behind. I know what I choose. That though does not mean I will blindly follow every mandate given. I see Qld has thrown out social distancing for Origin. Good for them some common sense being applied even if it is a desperate attempt to help Qld win and a political flex to boot.

You choose to misconstrue my comments to suit yourself and try to back yourself up but have failed miserably here. I questioned how long do we practice and maintain social distancing and the fact that I will shake hands and hug who I like when I like provided they are confortable with this. Your allegations that I did not think we should lock down are demonstrably false and evidenced in this thread. Now when asked by yourself previously as to what I would have done differently. I said I would have locked down for longer till the end of 2020 financial year. I thought we opened up too early. Your response to that was Morrisson was under pressure from business leaders to open up early. So much for your and Rented Tracksuits thoughts of lives over $$$. Seems you agree with Morrison opening up when he did due to that pressure, as you are going to vote for him over his handling over this When clearly his agenda was $$$ over lives.

Beneath is my initial response to your question which shows you make things up as you go along to try and suit yourself.






What would I have done differently if I was Morrison Great question and the only thing I ffind to be of any real substance in your response. I expect this will suprise you. In that I would not have allowed the country to open up as early as it did. I would have opened up July 1 start of the new financial year. I am not sure what power he has over the states with that. We opened up too early and Victorians paid a huge price for that aided by the quarantine fcuk up there and I think we would be in an even better place now than the good place we are in.



Last edited by Andrew Walker; 10-30-2020, 11:41 AM.

That will do me!

That's the exact reason we will still have problems with this virus in the future. People thinking they are above it and it doesn't affect them. Selfish behavior if you ask me.

[rented tracksuit]

WEF was a reference to covid being used as an opportunity to fast track this great reset. I have no real issue with a green agenda. In fact I would be investing any money I have into that sector. The world is changing whether I like it or not. Change with it or get left behind. I know what I choose. That though does not mean I will blindly follow every mandate given. I see Qld has thrown out social distancing for Origin. Good for them some common sense being applied even if it is a desperate attempt to help Qld win and a political flex to boot.

You choose to misconstrue my comments to suit yourself and try to back yourself up but have failed miserably here. I questioned how long do we practice and maintain social distancing and the fact that I will shake hands and hug who I like when I like provided they are confortable with this. Your allegations that I did not think we should lock down are demonstrably false and evidenced in this thread. Now when asked by yourself previously as to what I would have done differently. I said I would have locked down for longer till the end of 2020 financial year. I thought we opened up too early. Your response to that was Morrisson was under pressure from business leaders to open up early. So much for your and Rented Tracksuits thoughts of lives over $$$. Seems you agree with Morrison opening up when he did due to that pressure, as you are going to vote for him over his handling over this When clearly his agenda was $$$ over lives.

Beneath is my initial response to your question which shows you make things up as you go along to try and suit yourself.






What would I have done differently if I was Morrison Great question and the only thing I ffind to be of any real substance in your response. I expect this will suprise you. In that I would not have allowed the country to open up as early as it did. I would have opened up July 1 start of the new financial year. I am not sure what power he has over the states with that. We opened up too early and Victorians paid a huge price for that aided by the quarantine fcuk up there and I think we would be in an even better place now than the good place we are in.



Last edited by Andrew Walker; 10-30-2020, 11:41 AM.

Yet you still argued that you wanted to be out and about and going to the beach etc... Cant have it both ways cobber. You either in or you out?

[Andrew Walker]

Yet you still argued that you wanted to be out and about and going to the beach etc... Cant have it both ways cobber. You either in or you out?

Here we go the tag team duo again. What has me going to the beach got to do with anything in this thread apart from me mentioning I was going there once. ( actually do not answer that it will do you more harm than good. When in lockdown here I went to beach when it was open and did not do so when closed) Meanwhile we can go back to the real issue at hand is your attack on my mental health for stating things that were ALWAYS demonstrable and that the British Prime Minister not only acknowledges but supports. You have made yourself look like a complete goose in this with your ill educated comments and attack on my mental health.


https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-bori...k-great-reset/

[Random Rooster]

WEF was a reference to covid being used as an opportunity to fast track this great reset. I have no real issue with a green agenda. In fact I would be investing any money I have into that sector. The world is changing whether I like it or not. Change with it or get left behind. I know what I choose. That though does not mean I will blindly follow every mandate given. I see Qld has thrown out social distancing for Origin. Good for them some common sense being applied even if it is a desperate attempt to help Qld win and a political flex to boot.

You choose to misconstrue my comments to suit yourself and try to back yourself up but have failed miserably here. I questioned how long do we practice and maintain social distancing and the fact that I will shake hands and hug who I like when I like provided they are confortable with this. Your allegations that I did not think we should lock down are demonstrably false and evidenced in this thread. Now when asked by yourself previously as to what I would have done differently. I said I would have locked down for longer till the end of 2020 financial year. I thought we opened up too early. Your response to that was Morrisson was under pressure from business leaders to open up early. So much for your and Rented Tracksuits thoughts of lives over $$$. Seems you agree with Morrison opening up when he did due to that pressure, as you are going to vote for him over his handling over this When clearly his agenda was $$$ over lives.

Beneath is my initial response to your question which shows you make things up as you go along to try and suit yourself.






What would I have done differently if I was Morrison Great question and the only thing I ffind to be of any real substance in your response. I expect this will suprise you. In that I would not have allowed the country to open up as early as it did. I would have opened up July 1 start of the new financial year. I am not sure what power he has over the states with that. We opened up too early and Victorians paid a huge price for that aided by the quarantine fcuk up there and I think we would be in an even better place now than the good place we are in.



Last edited by Andrew Walker; 10-30-2020, 11:41 AM.

Ok all good. I guess the future will reveal all

[rented tracksuit]

Here we go the tag team duo again. What has me going to the beach got to do with anything in this thread apart from me mentioning I was going there once. ( actually do not answer that it will do you more harm than good. When in lockdown here I went to beach when it was open and did not do so when closed) Meanwhile we can go back to the real issue at hand is your attack on my mental health for stating things that were ALWAYS demonstrable and that the British Prime Minister not only acknowledges but supports. You have made yourself look like a complete goose in this with your ill educated comments and attack on my mental health.


https://www.rt.com/op-ed/502795-bori...k-great-reset/

And there we have it. The resident name thrower at it again.

What next, wanna meet up somewhere again? Your mental health is not my business. Your comments, name calling and general abusive demeanor are however.

Now haven’t you got an anti lockdown rally, Trump supporters gathering or a bra burning meeting to be at?

[rented tracksuit]

Now where’s the ignore button again?