Coronavirus / Covid-19 Global Pandemic

[Jacks Fur Coat]

What everyone needs to realise is unfortunately or fortunately our opinions don't matter
We will not , repeat not be let out of lockdown untill the vaccination rate is at a much higher level. protest , whinge and wine but that's just the facts

Ok...forum closed.

See ya at the pub in 8 weeks.

[mightyrooster]

True.

There will inevitably be some references that cross those social/political divides though, even on a footy forum. My only ask or expectation is people play the ball not the man. It's ok to disagree on anything.

As far as I could tell yesterday's 'United' thread diversion was discussing an issue, the issue or 'the ball' was the topic of racism and Adam Goodes. I don't remember it any other way unless there was another poster involved.

[Andrew Walker]

Yes that thread was very strange In that I am still
not sure why Goodes was brought into it. Unless of course the reference used was highlighting the fact both he and the mutt are both indigenous. This probably should be on that thread but who cares.?

[mightyrooster]

Yes that thread was very strange In that I smell not sure why Goodes was brought into it. Unless of course the reference used was highlighting the fact both he and the mutt are both indigenous. This probably should be on that thread but who cares.?

I promised JT that we would leave that thread alone to keep it 'united' and stop the chat on that other diverted topic so I'm a lady of my word.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

As far as I could tell yesterday's 'United' thread diversion was discussing an issue, the issue or 'the ball' was the topic of racism and Adam Goodes. I don't remember it any other way unless there was another poster involved.

I'm not going to keep explaining this to you, but one last go:

I posted a reference that I believed criticism of either Lattrell or Goodes had nothing to do with racism. That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

My reward was to be told I had form, was a troll and I felt you implied that I supported racism. The first two points were the other character not you. That's playing the man.

I took offence at those comments, morseso from you as thought you were so much better than that.

That's it in a nutshell.

[mightyrooster]

I'm not going to keep explaining this to you, but one last go:

I posted a reference that I believed criticism of either Lattrell or Goodes had nothing to do with racism. That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

My reward was to be told I had form, was a troll and I felt you implied that I supported racism. The first two points were the other character not you. That's playing the man.

I took offence at those comments, morseso from you as thought you were so much better than that.

That's it in a nutshell.

You are being a bit condascending now.

I explained to you yesterday that I thought your initial post in response to 66 was you having a backhanded dig at Adam Goodes because you said both were entitled to be booed. That is, I believed you were suggesting Goodes should be booed, clearly not because he just broke someone's face like Latrell did because clearly he didn't (the subject of the thread), but presumably based on his indigenous activism. This is what I thought you were implying. As it turns out, as you pointed out to me, I was wrong. I did not believe 66's original post was being prevocative. But I did think you were being prevocative and potentially derailing the thread which was the reason for my initial 'ho hum' response. You replied back to me kind of condesendingly mocking my 'ho hum'. But I accept your word that you were not inferring anything in your Adam Goodes comments and I was wrong to misinterpret them.

And your last sentence is confusing, so you agree I didn't play the man but you took more offence at me? I'm sorry I don't understand.

[Random Rooster]

Maybe in the future we should push the state government- irrespective of what side- to invest in more hospitals, more staffing and to be better equipped. Im talking a shitload more, not putting a bandaid over a hemorrhage. Our population will grow & we got a lot of catching up to do

All the negatives that Jack points out are valid because they are facts- its really happening. It's something that needs to be addressed.....but it cannot be addressed right now by ANY of the states because they simply won't be able to handle the massive overflow of sick people. It will catastrophic and the death tolls will run into 5 figures & most of all it is not fair or right for hospital staff. Our hospitals are showing signs of distress even now- i cant imagine what it would be like if we let Delta run wild.

Plus you simply cannot expose someone to the virus who is unvaccinated due to the failure of the Federal government to secure and distribute vaccines.

We need to learn from what is happening and make sure we are better prepared in the future so we can not lockdown & cope with the health consequences that go along with it

[mightyrooster]

I'm not going to keep explaining this to you, but one last go:

I posted a reference that I believed criticism of either Lattrell or Goodes had nothing to do with racism. That's my opinion, feel free to disagree.

My reward was to be told I had form, was a troll and I felt you implied that I supported racism. The first two points were the other character not you. That's playing the man.

I took offence at those comments, morseso from you as thought you were so much better than that.

That's it in a nutshell.

Ok I understand the last sentence now. You think I believe you support racism? When you said, and I can't remember the exact quote, but it was something like 'What you (meaning me) calls racism is just a political tool' or words to that effect. That to me makes me think you don't understand what it's like to be the victim of racism and prejiduce. It's not just what I call racism. Racism is real. It's not just a word I or others just create to use as a political tool.

So I’m not saying you support racism, but I am saying you are trying to tell me that what I call racism (your words) is just a convenient tool. I was defending myself and my right to what I see as racism not attacking you in that statement. There is a difference.

[Andrew Walker]

But why did Adam Goodes deserved to be booed. I seem to have missed the actual why bit. It is one thing saying in ones opinion he deserved to be booed. But what was it that Goodes actually being booed for ? and why was it deserved ?

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Guys the good news is that none of us are racist. When I read Coat's comment I took it the wrong way too.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

But why did Adam Goodes deserved to be booed. I seem to have missed the actual why bit. It is one thing saying in ones opinion he deserved to be booed but I havent seen the why he deserved to be booed What was Goodes actually being booed for

This is a topic that seems to split the nation.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Guys the good news is that none of us are racist. When I read Coat's comment I took it the wrong way too.

Thanks mate.

[Dr. Voodoo Man]

Thanks mate.

None of us deserve to be wrongly labelled racist .

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Ok I understand the last sentence now. You think I believe you support racism? When you said, and I can't remember the exact quote, but it was something like 'What you (meaning me) calls racism is just a political tool' or words to that effect. That to me makes me think you don't understand what it's like to be the victim of racism and prejiduce. It's not just what I call racism. Racism is real. It's not just a word I or others just create to use as a political tool.

So I’m not saying you support racism, but I am saying you are trying to tell me that what I call racism (your words) is just a convenient tool. I was defending myself and my right to what I see as racism not attacking you in that statement. There is a difference.

No worries lets leave it there. If you knew me you would understand I am anything but racist esp re our indigenous. My sister in law and niece and nephew are Aboriginal. I grew up in country NSW and worked there for many years, some of my best mates are indigenous .Worked for Indigenous Affairs.researched and wrote briefings for Government Ministers on remote service delivery strategies etc. ⁰

An irony I find is that actual indigenous people I know don't feel racism is an issue. And for that I rejoice.

I know you are well intentioned MR. See ya in the forum.

[Andrew Walker]

I also do not think JFC is racist. But the initial comment with no explanation as to why Goodes deserved to be booed left him wide open to such thoughts.

PS I still find my self wondering what the need was to bring Goodes into this whole thing