All things CHINA

[bondi.boy]

And the Federal government welcoming them back in phase 3 of the reopening of the economy. Seems a health and national security risk don't you think? Also stinks of hypocrisy after all the China bashing the Federal government has done



Can we send the secret police to Parliament House ( not now of course, no one is working but all still on full pay) & demand to know why Chinese students are welcome back?

We could. The answer we would likely get though is the one you offered earlier..."fat wallets"..."our unis need the billions".
Gladys, when asked who would be paying for their quarantining in hotels for 14 days...said she'd be referring that to our universities.

[Random Rooster]

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austra...&OCID=AVRES000

The United States threatens to CUT OFF Australia after Victoria ignored security advice to join a controversial trade deal with China

The U.S. warns it will 'simply disconnect' from Australia if Victoria sucking up to China becomes a security risk.

Premier Daniel Andrews signed up to the controversial Belt and Road Initiative that provides loans and investment in infrastructure projects.

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Charming.

National security...US has to, and will, protect itself.
National security...Our federal govt says things like "Victoria should be following federal national security laws when making deals with foreign powers."
Where's 'will be following, or else!'?

ScoMo should immediately send the secret police down to Vic to MAKE Andrews hand over the contracts he has signed with Communist China.
If he refuses, the army should be sent to arrest him and lock him up until he does produce them.

Maybe Daniel Andrews mistake was making the deal with China too transparent for all to see. Better to do it like the Liberal Government and not make it public

Foreign Affairs ministry opts for secrecy over China infrastructure agreement

The Turnbull government has refused to release an agreement it signed with China covering the controversial “Belt and Road Initiative” infrastructure program on the grounds Beijing does not want it made public.

Trade Minister Steven Ciobo signed the memorandum of understanding last September for cooperation on building infrastructure such as roads, bridges and dams in third countries - including under the Belt and Road Initiative - during a visit to Beijing.

Canberra’s response to the so-called BRI has been a balancing act because, while it supports more infrastructure in Asia and the Pacific region and wants opportunities for Australian firms, it is concerned the initiative is a strategic play by Beijing to dominate the region and involves murky financing that could leave poor countries beholden to Beijing.

The MOU would be expected to state Australia’s conditions for cooperating with China - such as that projects are financially transparent, do not involve corruption, genuinely help other countries and do not burden them with unsustainable debt.

But the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has refused to release the agreement under the Freedom of Information Act.

Mr Ciobo told Fairfax Media that “both parties are required to agree to release the text of the MOU and China has not agreed to do so".

In response to the FOI application by Fairfax Media, department official Elly Lawson said MOUs were “held to be confidential between the parties unless otherwise agreed”.

“In my opinion, disclosure without the express consent of the Chinese government would also damage the government’s relationship with China … as well as with other governments and international organisations with whom Australia has concluded MOUs.”

Releasing the document could "diminish the trust and confidence" in other governments signing such agreements with Australia, she said.

By contrast, New Zealand signed a memorandum of arrangement covering cooperation with China on the BRI last year and released the document in full.

The BRI is Chinese President Xi Jingping’s signature project to expand China’s economic and strategic reach by funding and building - largely either through grants or soft loans - infrastructure such as ports, bridges, roads and tunnels.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has previously told Fairfax Media that it is China’s vehicle “for greater political and strategic influence in the region” and added “there’s a lot still to know about BRI”, though if Australia’s conditions about transparency were met, it would happily work with China.

Mr Ciobo signed Australia’s MOU with He Lifeng, the chairman of China’s National Development and Reform Commission, which oversees the BRI. He said afterwards the government was “working to identify and facilitate access to commercial opportunities resulting from BRI”.

Labor's foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong also asked for the document through a Senate Estimates hearing but was refused for the same reasons. Senator Wong was on leave this week and not available for comment.

[Rooster1908]

Maybe Daniel Andrews mistake was making the deal with China too transparent for all to see. Better to do it like the Liberal Government and not make it public

Foreign Affairs ministry opts for secrecy over China infrastructure agreement

The Turnbull government has refused to release an agreement it signed with China covering the controversial “Belt and Road Initiative” infrastructure program on the grounds Beijing does not want it made public.

Trade Minister Steven Ciobo signed the memorandum of understanding last September for cooperation on building infrastructure such as roads, bridges and dams in third countries - including under the Belt and Road Initiative - during a visit to Beijing.

Canberra’s response to the so-called BRI has been a balancing act because, while it supports more infrastructure in Asia and the Pacific region and wants opportunities for Australian firms, it is concerned the initiative is a strategic play by Beijing to dominate the region and involves murky financing that could leave poor countries beholden to Beijing.

The MOU would be expected to state Australia’s conditions for cooperating with China - such as that projects are financially transparent, do not involve corruption, genuinely help other countries and do not burden them with unsustainable debt.

But the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has refused to release the agreement under the Freedom of Information Act.

Mr Ciobo told Fairfax Media that “both parties are required to agree to release the text of the MOU and China has not agreed to do so".

In response to the FOI application by Fairfax Media, department official Elly Lawson said MOUs were “held to be confidential between the parties unless otherwise agreed”.

“In my opinion, disclosure without the express consent of the Chinese government would also damage the government’s relationship with China … as well as with other governments and international organisations with whom Australia has concluded MOUs.”

Releasing the document could "diminish the trust and confidence" in other governments signing such agreements with Australia, she said.

By contrast, New Zealand signed a memorandum of arrangement covering cooperation with China on the BRI last year and released the document in full.

The BRI is Chinese President Xi Jingping’s signature project to expand China’s economic and strategic reach by funding and building - largely either through grants or soft loans - infrastructure such as ports, bridges, roads and tunnels.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has previously told Fairfax Media that it is China’s vehicle “for greater political and strategic influence in the region” and added “there’s a lot still to know about BRI”, though if Australia’s conditions about transparency were met, it would happily work with China.

Mr Ciobo signed Australia’s MOU with He Lifeng, the chairman of China’s National Development and Reform Commission, which oversees the BRI. He said afterwards the government was “working to identify and facilitate access to commercial opportunities resulting from BRI”.

Labor's foreign affairs spokeswoman Penny Wong also asked for the document through a Senate Estimates hearing but was refused for the same reasons. Senator Wong was on leave this week and not available for comment.

I'm sure if you wanted to check back a bit further that all government s have made those types of deals with China , America , or whoever , not saying it's right but they are all the same ,

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I'm sure if you wanted to check back a bit further that all government s have made those types of deals with China , America , or whoever , not saying it's right but they are all the same ,

Im sure you're right. I don't trust governments- whoever is in power.....and the same with media outlets. Trying to get a balance and truth is getting harder and harder

[Rooster1908]

Im sure you're right. I don't trust governments- whoever is in power.....and the same with media outlets. Trying to get a balance and truth is getting harder and harder

Easy , if they are talking they are stretching the truth to suit there needs , just an observation but the opposition no matter which side it is always seems to lie the most

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Easy , if they are talking they are stretching the truth to suit there needs , just an observation but the opposition no matter which side it is always seems to lie the most

Yep you nailed that one too!!!

[bondi.boy]

Sunday night 7.30...Sky News...
"China"...basically who's doing what to whom, and who's paying.
Everything "China".
"Who's been "cosying up to" China BRI (Belt and Road Initiative).

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Sunday night 7.30...Sky News...
"China"...basically who's doing what to whom, and who's paying.
Everything "China".
"Who's been "cosying up to" China BRI (Belt and Road Initiative).

Seems to me the USA has bigger problems than China at the moment. Even the 23,000 new Covid cases and 1200 deaths overnight has taken a back seat.

Minnesota is in a crisis. As usual the leadership of Cadet Bone Spurs has only made things worse- i mean even Twitter called him out for" glorifying violence". He is not only a woeful president but also an appalling person.

Speaking of appalling what the hell was Miranda Devine doing on Fox News calling for the resignation of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill di Blasio? Who does she think she is? I mean i know all the Fox team are given a script every day by Murdochs lackeys....but they needed her to back it up? Anyhow the further away from Australia she and her archaic opinions are the better.

[bondi.boy]

Seems to me the USA has bigger problems than China at the moment. Even the 23,000 new Covid cases and 1200 deaths overnight has taken a back seat.

Minnesota is in a crisis. As usual the leadership of Cadet Bone Spurs has only made things worse- i mean even Twitter called him out for" glorifying violence". He is not only a woeful president but also an appalling person.

Speaking of appalling what the hell was Miranda Devine doing on Fox News calling for the resignation of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill di Blasio? Who does she think she is? I mean i know all the Fox team are given a script every day by Murdochs lackeys....but they needed her to back it up? Anyhow the further away from Australia she and her archaic opinions are the better.

Miranda is great.
She's so 'woman of the time'.
An independent feminist who speaks her mind without fear of favour.

Twitter?
Twitter is complaining?
Just because Twitter says something doesn't mean it's correct.

The protesters are burning down America. Burning down their own cities, including their own social housing under construction.
They're looting America.
They're smashing up America.
They're trashing up America.
Burning down police stations, police vehicles on fire across the country.
The White House is locked down.
Soon there will be nothing left of America but rubble.
One might ask: "where are the rubber bullets and water cannons"?
"Where is the military?"

[bondi.boy]

Finally it seems like the penny has dropped.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/o...hong-kong.html

China and the Rhineland Moment

America and its allies must not simply accept Beijing’s aggression.

Great struggles between great powers tend to have a tipping point. It’s the moment when the irreconcilability of differences becomes obvious to nearly everyone. In 1911 Germany sparked an international crisis when it sent a gunboat into the Moroccan port of Agadir and, as Winston Churchill wrote in his history of the First World War, “all the alarm bells throughout Europe began immediately to quiver.” In 1936 Germany provoked another crisis when it marched troops into the Rhineland, in flagrant breach of its treaty obligations. In 1946, the Soviet Union made it obvious it had no intention of honoring democratic principles in Central Europe, and Churchill was left to warn that “an iron curtain has descended across the Continent.”

The concept of “one country, two systems,” was supposed to last at least until 2047 under the terms of the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration. Now China’s rulers have been openly violating that treaty, much as Germany openly violated the treaties of Locarno and Versailles.
And again, alarm bells quiver.

For years, Donald Trump’s comments on China have swung between the truculent and the obsequious.But beneath the president’s mental foam, the administration has undertaken a sober rethink of the U.S. strategic approach to China, the outlines of which are described in a new interagency document quietly released by the White House last week.
Gone from this new vision are the platitudes about encouraging China’s “peaceful rise” as a “responsible stakeholder” in a “rules-based order.” Instead, Beijing is described, accurately, as a habitual and aggressive violator of that order — a domestic tyrant, international bully and economic bandit that systematically robs companies of their intellectual property, countries of their sovereign authorities, and its own people of their natural rights.
A critic might note that this description of China’s behavior sounds a lot like Trump’s. Sort of, except that the comparison trivializes the scale of China’s abuses and neglects the breadth and longevity of its challenge. A Biden administration will be confronted with the same unpleasant facts about a geopolitical adversary that seeks not only to dominate its region but also dethrone liberal democracy as the dominant political model of the 21st century.

In the meantime, think of this as our Rhineland moment with China — and remember what happened the last time the free world looked aggression in the eye, and blinked.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Miranda is great.
She's so 'woman of the time'.
An independent feminist who speaks her mind without fear of favour.

Twitter?
Twitter is complaining?
Just because Twitter says something doesn't mean it's correct.

The protesters are burning down America. Burning down their own cities, including their own social housing under construction.
They're looting America.
They're smashing up America.
They're trashing up America.
Burning down police stations, police vehicles on fire across the country.
The White House is locked down.
Soon there will be nothing left of America but rubble.
One might ask: "where are the rubber bullets and water cannons"?
"Where is the military?"

Some people believe twitter is real life...sadly.

The American lawlessness at present is quite disturbing.

These idiots are achieving nothing positive by their violence and disobedience with police. Professional agitators who parasitically grab any cause to deride governments and authority. They are destroying businesses and infrastructure in the communities they purport to represent. An African American commentator today was quoted as saying these criminals (thats all they are) are only doing damage to any race relations and many black Americans are ashamed at their behaviour.

The actions against the offending police were swift and appropriate. Peaceful protests are okay. But once violence and disobedience are used, police and the military need to act with force. These idiots forfeit their rights to protection and respect by their actions.

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Some people believe twitter is real life...sadly.

You can start with Trump who obviously thinks Twitter is real life. I mean he averages 36 tweets a day. When he gets pulled up for inciting violence he even signs a executive order limiting the broad legal protections currently in place for social media. If only he could have moved as swiftly in addressing Covid 19 instead of spending February denying it was serious, playing golf and holding his yokel rallies.

[Random Rooster]

Miranda is great.
She's so 'woman of the time'.
An independent feminist who speaks her mind without fear of favour.

Twitter?
Twitter is complaining?
Just because Twitter says something doesn't mean it's correct.

The protesters are burning down America. Burning down their own cities, including their own social housing under construction.
They're looting America.
They're smashing up America.
They're trashing up America.
Burning down police stations, police vehicles on fire across the country.
The White House is locked down.
Soon there will be nothing left of America but rubble.
One might ask: "where are the rubber bullets and water cannons"?
"Where is the military?"

She may be a woman of your time but not of the world today.
Theres nothing independent about her. She is loyal to who pays her, that being Rupert Murdoch, and her views are whatever he says they are. She is a true dinosaur in every sense of the word.

If the 4 police officers were charged with murder then none of this would have happened. The riots start, so they charge one of the officers with murder 3 and take him into custody . Too late and not good enough.
Just like the unarmed black jogger in Georgia who got shot by 3 white men, without media coverage nothing happens. There are literally hundreds of cases of blacks getting killed by police who never had to justify their actions. Eventually something was going to give.

NFL player Colin Kaepernick led the call against police brutality by getting on one knee when the national anthem was played. Trump said he as disgraceful and should be deported. Peaceful protests weren't working, they should have but no one was listening

Trump had a chance to lead and address the issues but, just like everything he touches, he made it worse. Its not surprising considering his long history of racism.

Geez Bondi Boy your answer to everything is send in the US military-even on its own people! When Iran was having violent protests against the government Trump said they should be heard and said the Iranian government shouldn't send in the military against its own people "because the US and the world are watching". Shoes on the other foot now.

Anyhow on a lighter note on Aljeezera TV they are calling for Trump to be re-elected in 2020. Seems like they are enjoying the basket case America has become under his presidency!

[zac]

US looking like '68 again. hope they sort things out. you'd figure the higher mortality rate of blacks from the virus is also a factor.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

You can start with Trump who obviously thinks Twitter is real life. I mean he averages 36 tweets a day. When he gets pulled up for inciting violence he even signs a executive order limiting the broad legal protections currently in place for social media. If only he could have moved as swiftly in addressing Covid 19 instead of spending February denying it was serious, playing golf and holding his yokel rallies.

It sounds like the lefty media there are playing you a bit .

I reckon these terrorists trying to destroy America (its not about race, thats a furphy) will ultimately hand Trump the keys again when the rest of the country sees their actions for what they are...a violent attempt to overthrow the government that dares challenge their screwball ideologies.