All things CHINA

[Rooster1908]

"Our leader" - Scumo? Hilarious!!

Elected by the majority of voters in a democratic society so yes our leader .Unlike what happens to your mob in a communist country .Watch what happens to the likes of you that bags the government over there

[zac]

china's capable of great brutality - ask the uighurs, tibetans and any dissenters. would it be any better if it were democatic? i dunno. if they elected some populist as their leader i don't think that would be good for us. let em have their communism - they don't have a democratic tradition like we do and anyway we're not going to effect regime change there. i like living in a place with political freedoms but if i was poor in china i'd be happy with the economic progress of the last few decades.

we have to stand up to china when necessary but i reckon we stuffed up taking the lead in asking them to be more open about covid. ask our farmers how they feel about that - they're the casualties and for what gain? we should have signed some internationally sanctioned document - you don't pick a fight you can't win.

[The Skeez]

"Our leader" - Scumo? Hilarious!!

Yep, he’s been found out.
In his ‘leadership’ he has lost our major trading partner and sidled up to a fading superpower. He had the opportunity to play conduit for the worlds sake but instead found himself punching below his weight to a distant howling wolf.
Scott, where the bloody hell are ya?

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=The Skeez;
Yep, he's been found out.
In his leadership & he has lost our major trading partner and sidled up to a fading superpower. He had the opportunity to play conduit for the worlds sake but instead found himself punching below his weight to a distant howling wolf. Scott, where the bloody hell are ya?

Yeah all that Skeez and the Murdoch media has unsurprisingly anointed him the hero of the pandemic. He might have had a good pandemic (he didn't get it) but other than that he didn't want lockdowns when it began and, bereft, the weasel left it to the States. If they fcuked up he could blame them and if they were successful he'd take credit. How many working class mugs will buy that? Well a few on here by the looks. Two of them are so impressed that they're supporting the wages cut policy but not for themselves presumably. Too busy waving flags to think about much at all but still giving us the benefit of their ignorant opinions and other boss loving tripe. Come to think of it, cutting wages of the poor and vulnerable is not a long way off being an Australian officer on the Burma Railway, presiding over an enormous death rate imbalance between rankers and Officers, taking the boys' boots and their vegetable gardens and giving them up to the Japanese.
Oz is a sham democracy, a bad joke. Like the US, it is a Plutocracy - rule by the rich who propagate lies like China is capable of "great brutality". As great as our brutality in Afghanistan? Unlikely because the Chinese have not attacked any other nation. Admittedly. they have zero tolerance for people who rip off wages or who commit frauds in business or against the people - that despicable lot end their greedy lives against a wall. Come to think of it Erica Betz's SS uncle Otto was keen on dispatching people too but in his case they were innocent Jews despatched to Treblinka, Austwicz and Birkenau.

[zac]

tienanmen square was pretty brutal - or was that just great crowd control?

[Paddo Colt 61]

Like the Uyghurs and the Kongers, there's a back story to Tiannamen though it's not likely to be found in our warmongering MSM. The protests in Tiannamen went on for weeks and weeks and the Government showed laudable forbearance. During that time, single patrolling members of the constabulary and soldiers were ambushed, murdered and often hung from bridges. When the showdown came the law'n'order forces were in no mood to indulge their tormentors.
I've commented on the poor Uyghers in the past, many of them are terrorists fighting for the Caliphate and attacking the infidel Chinese State as ordered to do by Osama Bin Laden. Activists are, quite reasonably, detained. Australia detains people, some for 10 years now, who have done nothing at all let alone terrorism.

[zac]

yeah but nah - hard to say that a country that kills its own people is beyond reproach

[Mickie Lane]

This lady that walks her dog near where I walk mine is Chinese decent & geez she’s a good sort. Her husbands only got 1 arm the poor bugger but he must have heaps of cash.

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=zac: yeah but nah - hard to say that a country that kills its own people is beyond reproach.

Too true Zac but let's not bring the tragedy of our own indigenes into it or the masses of blacks executed in the USA.

[zac]

Too true Zac but let's not bring the tragedy of our own indigenes into it or the masses of blacks executed in the USA.

i'm all for a warts and all honesty about our past - how can you truly celebrate the good things if you ignore the bad things.
the only heartening thing about our recent troubles in afghanistan is that it wasn't swept under the carpet. you don't get that sort of openness in china - their repression at tianenmen was based on the belief that russia's glasnost was a mistake.

[Paddo Colt 61]

As it was. But the US and its arms race throughout the Cold War resulted in a parlous economic situation in Russia by the 90s. The US has never allowed any Socialist or Communist state to survive on its own merits. Indeed it, along with the Brits and even some ignorant Australian volunteers, invaded the Soviets in 1919 in a failed attempt to crush the revolution and return the aristocracy. Later it aided and abetted the British encouragement of Germany to expand eastward because of Hitler's anti communist credentials and the eventuality was a Russo-German war that left 20 million (some historians say 50) Russians dead and their country in ruin.That war was fought and won in Russia, D- Day and the rest was a mere sideshow. The Soviets never full recovered from that war.

[Random Rooster]

Yep, he’s been found out.
In his ‘leadership’ he has lost our major trading partner and sidled up to a fading superpower. He had the opportunity to play conduit for the worlds sake but instead found himself punching below his weight to a distant howling wolf.
Scott, where the bloody hell are ya?

This is so true.

The most frustrating part was it was so unnecessary. Dutton had to shoot his mouth off at the urgings of Mike Pompeo because no one was siding with the USA against China- and that was because it was all about taking the heat off Trumps inept handling of Covid. It had nothing to do with us and Morrison should have left it at that instead of backing Dutton up and then upping the ante. Theres a fine line between being a strong leader and a dumb leader.

China's first move was to put a massive tax on our barley ( giving some bs excuse why they did).....and then its no co-incidence they then go buy the barley shortfall from the USA- letting Australia know how loyal the US really is.

We have a massive trade surplus with China- make the surplus higher! Take their money!!!

[Andrew Walker]

This lady that walks her dog near where I walk mine is Chinese decent & geez she’s a good sort. Her husbands only got 1 arm the poor bugger but he must have heaps of cash.

Plenty of good looking Chinese women out there Mickey Went out with one a few weeks ago for coffee Absolute glamour but a real conundrum in that she was extremely interesting and well educated whom I could have talked with for hours but also very incredibly boring with no personality One of the strangest 2 and a half hours of my life Here I was fascinated by this woman and what she had to say but overall my god she was ****ing boring.

[The Skeez]

What would the repercussions be if we stopped supplying iron ore to China?

[Big Dog]

What would the repercussions be if we stopped supplying iron ore to China?

They'll just come in and take it. With Biden's blessing.