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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rous-thug.html

    Pauline Hanson sparks controversy

    . She condemned Black Lives Matter protests held around Australia last weekend.

  • #2
    yeah, the protests should have incorporated social distancing. anger doesn't justify stupidity.

    but if i'm black in the US or here and look at the jail figures and deaths in custody figures i'd be pissed off.

    all lives matter, so all of us would like to get the disproportionately high number of black deaths down. i think everyone can agree on that.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by zac View Post
      yeah, the protests should have incorporated social distancing. anger doesn't justify stupidity.

      but if i'm black in the US or here and look at the jail figures and deaths in custody figures i'd be pissed off.

      all lives matter, so all of us would like to get the disproportionately high number of black deaths down. i think everyone can agree on that.
      I don't think the black deaths in custody are disproportionate at all here though....they are trying to import a problem here that doesnt exist, thats the crazy part.

      432 Aboriginal deaths in custody since 1991 with the vast majority from natural causes, and almost all the rest from suicide.

      The Australian Institute of Criminology state Aborigines are less likely to die in jail than white people and it has been that way for the past 17 years.

      If the protesters want to rally for a cause that is real, start with the domestic violence and murders, and sexual assault of children that Aborigines perpetrate in their own communities.
      #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

        I don't think the black deaths in custody are disproportionate at all here though....they are trying to import a problem here that doesnt exist, thats the crazy part.

        432 Aboriginal deaths in custody since 1991 with the vast majority from natural causes, and almost all the rest from suicide.

        The Australian Institute of Criminology state Aborigines are less likely to die in jail than white people and it has been that way for the past 17 years.

        If the protesters want to rally for a cause that is real, start with the domestic violence and murders, and sexual assault of children that Aborigines perpetrate in their own communities.
        is that right? wiki says -

        RCIADIC concluded that the deaths were not caused by deliberate killing by police and prison officers, but that "glaring deficiencies existed in the standard of care afforded to many of the deceased".
        [5]
        It reported that "Aboriginal people died in custody at the same rate as non-Aboriginal prisoners, but they were far more likely to be in prison than non-Aboriginal people", and that child removal was a "significant precursor to these high rates of imprisonment".
        [1]


        regardless, if i was aboriginal i wouldn't be too happy about a lot of things. good luck to em if they want to protest (just be more sensible about it).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jacks Fur Coat View Post

          I don't think the black deaths in custody are disproportionate at all here though....they are trying to import a problem here that doesnt exist, thats the crazy part.

          432 Aboriginal deaths in custody since 1991 with the vast majority from natural causes, and almost all the rest from suicide.

          The Australian Institute of Criminology state Aborigines are less likely to die in jail than white people and it has been that way for the past 17 years.

          If the protesters want to rally for a cause that is real, start with the domestic violence and murders, and sexual assault of children that Aborigines perpetrate in their own communities.
          don't get me wrong, this isn't white people bad, black people good. it's complex and blacks have to take responsibility for themselves. i hope things work out for them.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by zac View Post

            don't get me wrong, this isn't white people bad, black people good. it's complex and blacks have to take responsibility for themselves. i hope things work out for them.
            For sure.

            It's just that the activists use this 432 deaths in custody to make it sound like they were beaten to death by prison guards. And a lot of the crowds who march actually believe that....its quite sad really that people are so easily misled.
            #We Stand with ourJewish community#

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            • #7
              Trouble is that most people Black or white or any race for that matter never seem to want to listen or understand the others point of view . Unfortunately I never see this changing . Amazingly even in my family with indigenous son in law , some still cant get along . Its sad but we are all different and some just love to protest and disagree even when they have no idea what they are disagreeing about .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rooster1908 View Post
                Trouble is that most people Black or white or any race for that matter never seem to want to listen or understand the others point of view . Unfortunately I never see this changing . Amazingly even in my family with indigenous son in law , some still cant get along . Its sad but we are all different and some just love to protest and disagree even when they have no idea what they are disagreeing about .
                i agree, but not sure about the last sentence. the protest was in solidarity with George Floyd. the situation in the states mightn't mirror what happens here but it strikes a chord. blacks here are over-represented in prison. but our blacks have more in common with the red indians.

                sure, protest during a pandemic is problematic (and i think it's a bad idea) but the forecast isn't as bleak now as it was a while back, so it's not completely crazy. personally, i think govts should be more proactive and try to find a place where people can protest more safely.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zac View Post

                  i agree, but not sure about the last sentence. the protest was in solidarity with George Floyd. the situation in the states mightn't mirror what happens here but it strikes a chord. blacks here are over-represented in prison. but our blacks have more in common with the red indians.

                  sure, protest during a pandemic is problematic (and i think it's a bad idea) but the forecast isn't as bleak now as it was a while back, so it's not completely crazy. personally, i think govts should be more proactive and try to find a place where people can protest more safely.
                  Mainly in reference to the idiots who are smashing ships and looting , that's not protesting and it's doing the cause a lot of harm , they are just in it for themselves .yes protesting in Oz is relatively safe but not so much in USA

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                  • #10
                    The HIA rule needs to be enforced here in this thread.
                    To protect people from themselves.

                    The antagonist starts a thread and then disappears while the others scrap it out. Can’t see it ending well
                    ..it’ll be interesting to see

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Skeez View Post
                      The HIA rule needs to be enforced here in this thread.
                      To protect people from themselves.

                      The antagonist starts a thread and then disappears while the others scrap it out. Can’t see it ending well
                      Yeah, yeah, I've been reading, having dinner, reading the main forum, interesting to see Jacinta mentioned there.
                      Now I have returned here to post something.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post

                        Yeah, yeah, I've been reading, having dinner, reading the main forum, interesting to see Jacinta mentioned there.
                        Now I have returned here to post something.

                        Sky news succulents
                        ..it’ll be interesting to see

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                        • #13
                          Today it's all the fault of Christopher Columbus apparently.
                          It was "off with his head" in one place...and he was torn down and tossed into a lake in another.
                          Accused of being "a symbol of White supremacy" and "responsible for the genocide of
                          Indigenous Peoples".
                          In one place "Christopher Columbus Day" nationwide has been replaced by "Indigenous
                          Peoples Day".
                          Last edited by bondi.boy; 06-11-2020, 10:40 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by The Skeez View Post

                            Sky news succulents
                            As an Indigenous woman from an Indigenous community who's actually lived it all, to me Jacinta's experiences and opinions are very valid...no matter where she chooses to speak them.
                            Her mother Bess Price met Obama in the White House.
                            Jacinta knows what she's talking about.
                            Last edited by bondi.boy; 06-11-2020, 10:45 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bondi.boy View Post

                              As an Indigenous woman from an Indigenous community who's actually lived it all, to me Jacinta's experiences and opinions are very valid...no matter where she chooses to speak them.
                              I think what she says are valid. But it’s the like the old adage, you can’t run rugby league unless you’ve actually played it.
                              ..it’ll be interesting to see

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