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Originally posted by Crab View Post
What I don't get is why a daughter of an Indian mother and a mostly European /small part Jamaican father would identify as an ' African American' ? Not that there is anything wrong with that .. ( unless it suits her agenda ) .
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Trump's a clown and in my opinion only the 2nd worst president to George W but he would have romped it in if it wasn't for covid as their economy was flying.Last edited by Johnny Brass; 11-08-2020, 09:30 PM.
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Originally posted by Paddo Colt 61 View PostTosh Chookmeister and ROC! Neither of you know what you're talking about. Not one fact between you. Just Murdoch/ LNP drivel.
Taiwan is a part of China as is Hong Kong. What we see is the local rich in both places getting revved up by US Intelligence agencies which have a long history of meddling in the affairs of other countries including our own. Your US has been at war continuously in it's 250 year history and still is. China, on the other hand, has not been but it is ringed with American bases including the massive base at Diego Garcia which the World Court has declared illegal in International law. Their mates, the liberty loving Poms gave it to them. How can anyone buy the freedom fighting nonsense? And we are about the only idiot country to buy in - and they pinched our markets as a thank you.
For the edification of those who would like to know more about a lot of things there is a site johnmenadue.com.au. Menadue was an Oz public servant of the highest rank (Head of the PM Department under Fraser and Whitlam) and the site features opinion pieces by former ranking public servants, academics, various experts, journalists and other public intellectuals. It deals in facts, not asinine propaganda. There's a few of yez should look to it before you have to send your kids off to yet another Yankee "freedom fight" LOL.
The yanks have had a fairly long reign at the top and the Chinese figure it's their time to reign as they have built up economically and military wise.
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First of all I want to thank and congratulate the administrators of this site for not interfering in the comments. If this was Facebook, Twitter etc. there would be a lot of banned ppl. on here. Apart from the dude who seems to belong to a group who idolised an Ethiopian ruler from days of yore and smoked ganja to help them forget (but Marley rocks) , it seems as though there are more astute people on here who can see beyond the biased media reporting and can understand the reality of what the future holds for the world. ROC181 is the rock star of this topic and has pretty much said it all. If the Republicans lose the Senate then its all over red rover ... expanded supreme court, legal status for 11 million illegal immigrants etvc etc... the left would have dug themselves in for eternity
This was the second worst day of the year for me .. you can guess what was the first!
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Originally posted by Johnny Brass View Post
Ask any Taiwanese or honky if they are Chinese or from Taiwan or Hong Kong. That's why those from Hong Kong have been protesting they are fighting for their freedom. Instead of watching ABC 24 I suggest you talk to some Asians from those countries and ask them how they feel about China taking over.
The yanks have had a fairly long reign at the top and the Chinese figure it's their time to reign as they have built up economically and military wise.
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Originally posted by Johnny Brass View Post
Ask any Taiwanese or honky if they are Chinese or from Taiwan or Hong Kong. That's why those from Hong Kong have been protesting they are fighting for their freedom. Instead of watching ABC 24 I suggest you talk to some Asians from those countries and ask them how they feel about China taking over.
The yanks have had a fairly long reign at the top and the Chinese figure it's their time to reign as they have built up economically and military wise.
IMO it's the CCP that people hate, not China (or its people) per se. It's just a greedy, authoritarian dictatorship. Taiwan has given up but in international law they still have a valid claim to the entire mainland. Many 'Chinese' people are displaced in places like Malaysia and Singapore as a result of what the CCP's done. One day I hope the people behind it who have lived in luxury/privilege their whole lives will be brought to account.
Donald Trump didn't help the west's relationship with China because he divided the west on issues that they're usually united on. This opened the door for the CCP to run amok and start saying they're the authority on climate change and COVID and stuff like that. I get that people want a strong voice to tell the CCP to get farked but it's not that simple in international relations. Having more unity with the rest of the world (which is what Biden will bring - e.g. by coming to the table on climate change) will leave them looking isolated/aggressive again. Having the USA looking isolated and belligerent isn't a good thing!
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Originally posted by ithepact View PostFirst of all I want to thank and congratulate the administrators of this site for not interfering in the comments. If this was Facebook, Twitter etc. there would be a lot of banned ppl. on here. Apart from the dude who seems to belong to a group who idolised an Ethiopian ruler from days of yore and smoked ganja to help them forget (but Marley rocks) , it seems as though there are more astute people on here who can see beyond the biased media reporting and can understand the reality of what the future holds for the world. ROC181 is the rock star of this topic and has pretty much said it all. If the Republicans lose the Senate then its all over red rover ... expanded supreme court, legal status for 11 million illegal immigrants etvc etc... the left would have dug themselves in for eternity
This was the second worst day of the year for me .. you can guess what was the first!
Mind you, I always thought I was a star
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Originally posted by ism22 View Post
Bingo. History summarised... Japan took China (run by Taiwan at the time) during WWII. HK was separate and the UK had already taken it... so it was never run by the CCP. USA gave China back to Taiwan when Japan lost. While the USA were busy helping Japan re-build and achieve its economic miracle, the CCP opportunistically went in, destroyed all evidence of the past, burned temples...etc and seized power by force (rather than by getting elected). They demanded HK and refused to recognise any parts of the country that they hasn't captured by force (e.g. Taiwan).
IMO it's the CCP that people hate, not China (or its people) per se. It's just a greedy, authoritarian dictatorship. Taiwan has given up but in international law they still have a valid claim to the entire mainland. Many 'Chinese' people are displaced in places like Malaysia and Singapore as a result of what the CCP's done. One day I hope the people behind it who have lived in luxury/privilege their whole lives will be brought to account.
Donald Trump didn't help the west's relationship with China because he divided the west on issues that they're usually united on. This opened the door for the CCP to run amok and start saying they're the authority on climate change and COVID and stuff like that. I get that people want a strong voice to tell the CCP to get farked but it's not that simple in international relations. Having more unity with the rest of the world (which is what Biden will bring - e.g. by coming to the table on climate change) will leave them looking isolated/aggressive again. Having the USA looking isolated and belligerent isn't a good thing!
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Oh please stop it!You & Jack are embarrassing me....no no, keep going!
Mind you, I always thought I was a star.
I won't embarrass you. Both you and ism 22 serve up a load of emotional tripe with the sort of airy confidence of that one often sees in religious wingnuts and regular consumers of Sky News. I don't think that you have even even one fact between you. Too hard to find them, best to stick with subjective free (of fact) assertions - the CCP is not evil and to assert that is mere opinion (the opinion of Newscorp, the rich, US Corporations and a big bunch of suckers who seem to think that just "feeling" certain things make them true.
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[QUOTE=Paddo Colt 61;n858133][QUOTE=ROC181;
Oh please stop it!You & Jack are embarrassing me....no no, keep going!
Mind you, I always thought I was a star.
I won't embarrass you. Both you and ism 22 serve up a load of emotional tripe with the sort of airy confidence of that one often sees in religious wingnuts and regular consumers of Sky News. I don't think that you have even even one fact between you. Too hard to find them, best to stick with subjective free (of fact) assertions - the CCP is not evil and to assert that is mere opinion (the opinion of Newscorp, the rich, US Corporations and a big bunch of suckers who seem to think that just "feeling" certain things make them true.[/QUOTE]
So you agree with the uighur muslims being held in concentration camps?
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