Minus Western propaganda what's the real story on the Ukraine?

[Paddo Colt 61]

Well randoms discuss on the site but otherwise the site host comments and publishes other sources some are Euro MSM,

Let's clarify this Randy. The "oath of allegiance" reference was what I was calling sinister. Like many other things, our media uses such terms to imply that the process is somehow totalitarian and unique to whichever country is the current "enemy" when the reality is that every nation would require something similar. I wasn't questioning the original source but the way that the info was used as propaganda.

Are you saying MOA is bullshit?

[mightyrooster]

Well randoms discuss on the site but otherwise the site host comments and publishes other sources some are Euro MSM,

Let's clarify this Randy. The "oath of allegiance" reference was what I was calling sinister. Like many other things, our media uses such terms to imply that the process is somehow totalitarian and unique to whichever country is the current "enemy" when the reality is that every nation would require something similar. I wasn't questioning the original source but the way that the info was used as propaganda.

OMG! Paddo used the quote function correctly!

[ism22]

OMG! Paddo used the quote function correctly!

Craaaaazy! That's almost enough to make me un-block him/her/them.

[mightyrooster]

Craaaaazy! That's almost enough to make me un-block him/her/them.

But in the next post he is quoting and talking to himself.

[ism22]

whoa whoa let me get my head around this......

I post news about Putin making it law that Wagner soldiers have to swear allegiance to Russia, with a link to the Kremlin website, and Paddo says, "It sounds like you're making some sinister inference"...... and now you finally link a source that is not john menadue and its "Moon Of Alabama....where barflies get together....and must have whiskey,oh you know why". Its a blog that randoms cant post any bs on.....and some of the "authors" have links to Russian websites-i mean they dont even try to hide it.

Geez dont go on about the credibility of MSM when your source is that rubbish!!

Exactly. In the wake of Rupert's resignation I'm all for sledging his role in spreading BS. However... Chairman Xi and a bunch of mischievous Cossacks are hardly the voice of reason in all of this.

Nor is a 90+ year old ex-mandarin who is widely known to be the reason why the head of Prime Minister and Cabinet will now graciously offer up their resignation when there's a change of government rather than becoming belligerent and asserting that they'll stay no matter what in order to 'serve' the public as they have a personal objection to the outcome of the election. Sigh!

[King Salvo]

OMG! Paddo used the quote function correctly!

Comrade Paddo replied to his own post: Mmm, wait until he starts disagreeing with himself.

[King Salvo]

Comrade Paddo's only source of references are far-left biased sites that promote pro-Russian and Chinese propaganda and conspiracy theories and use poor sources and false claims that totally lack credibility or transparency.

[Random Rooster]

Well randoms discuss on the site but otherwise the site host comments and publishes other sources some are Euro MSM,

Let's clarify this Randy. The "oath of allegiance" reference was what I was calling sinister. Like many other things, our media uses such terms to imply that the process is somehow totalitarian and unique to whichever country is the current "enemy" when the reality is that every nation would require something similar. I wasn't questioning the original source but the way that the info was used as propaganda.

Please Paddo- you're telling me that after the "unfortunate" plane accident that killed Wagners leaders, it was just a co-incidence the Kremlin made the statement to the leaderless Wagner soldiers a few days later?? Id say use some critical thinking but sometimes the accepting the obvious is all you need.

I think its healthy that you finally look for your news beyond John Menadue- but if you really think Moon of Alabama is where you should be looking for the truth then you may as well start reading Qanon- thats where Putin is the hero who, along with Trump, is going to save the world from the evil deep state. I mean if you're going to go full on bonkers bananas you may as well make it good!!

[King Salvo]

Thanks for singling me out for a special mention Paddo. Have you not listened to me go on about how I hate the US sticking it's nose into everything and how I hate the US in general? It doesn't change my opinion on Putin though. My view is not completely black and white and I've been through this many times before. Thanks for paying attention.

Pretty poor to hate a country, so does that mean you hate all Americans too?

You will turn into a female version of Comrade Paddo, whose hatred of the West, especially the USA, has turned him into a bitter, delusional, brainwashed individual whose only enjoyment in life is frequenting far-left anti-West sites.

[King Salvo]

But in the next post he is quoting and talking to himself.

I suggest he does a lot of talking to himself

[King Salvo]

Please Paddo- you're telling me that after the "unfortunate" plane accident that killed Wagners leaders, it was just a co-incidence the Kremlin made the statement to the leaderless Wagner soldiers a few days later?? Id say use some critical thinking but sometimes the accepting the obvious is all you need.

I think its healthy that you finally look for your news beyond John Menadue- but if you really think Moon of Alabama is where you should be looking for the truth then you may as well start reading Qanon- thats where Putin is the hero who, along with Trump, is going to save the world from the evil deep state. I mean if you're going to go full on bonkers bananas you may as well make it good!!

Comrade Paddo knows zilch about Russia and China, which is strange since he is pro-both countries, although he just can't find it in his heart to either migrate to or visit either of these countries.

Has it too good in the big bad west.

As far as Wagner goes, that is a major event in being required to swear allegiance to Russia, as if this has occurred, they then become part of the Russian military and under their control.

Being a private fee-for-service military company, paid mercenaries, in other words, they could pick and choose where they provided their military services, as we have seen, i.e., Africa and Syria.

All about Putin reasserting his authority over any and all private military groups and contractors participating in any military activities whether in Ukraine or anywhere else

Prigozhin and other Wagner Group Leaders had to be eliminated for this to occur.

[mightyrooster]

Pretty poor to hate a country, so does that mean you hate all Americans too?

You will turn into a female version of Comrade Paddo, whose hatred of the West, especially the USA, has turned him into a bitter, delusional, brainwashed individual whose only enjoyment in life is frequenting far-left anti-West sites.

Bit of a low blow there Salvo
I don’t literally hate the whole country. Pretty poor of you to suggest my comment on the US was anything other than a commentary on some US foreign policies over the years. If I ever criticise Australian government policy does that make me a traitor, unpatriotic and a bitter hateful person?

[Paddo Colt 61]

* MR you make the mistake of taking the King seriously. Inferring that you are radical is delusional. Mollify him, say you hate all Americans but the Atlanta Braves.
* Randy. MOA uses a variety of sources including the MSM. Conspiracy site it ain’t. What you might find unpalatable is MoA’s The Prig wasn’t the leader of Wagner when the plane went down. He had just 5000 loyal followers..
* Let me get your position straight - You think the MSM is essentially reliable and credible and independent alternative sites are unreliable because their version of truth is at variance with the main stream/ That’s King’s and Izzy’s take.

[King Salvo]

Bit of a low blow there Salvo
I don’t literally hate the whole country. Pretty poor of you to suggest my comment on the US was anything other than a commentary on some US foreign policies over the years. If I ever criticise Australian government policy does that make me a traitor, unpatriotic and a bitter hateful person?

Maybe you can clarify what you posted

" Have you not listened to me go on about how I hate the US sticking it's nose into everything and how I hate the US in general? "

[King Salvo]

We purchased stock in the Atlanta Braves, so now we are part owners with full voting rights and whatnot.

Knock the Atlanta Braves and Braves Country at your own peril.

Chop On Braves