Minus Western propaganda what's the real story on the Ukraine?

[Andrew Walker]

If we've got any sense we're already more than used to it. Have you tried Kingsford? Andy also might have? Asian smorgasbord.

I was down that way last Friday and yes indeed a delightful smorgasbord of Asian restaurants beckons those in the area I also noticed both pubs have Asian girls working behind the bar. There are also a couple of Russians working in one of the pubs Asian girls ( mostly Chinese )Russian girls what a delightful mix I imagine it would be terrifying for the likes of ismabard and jaxxxx. ( although I’m sure Izzy would seemlessly fit in amongst the Vietnamese there ) I also overheard the Russian and Chinese talking about in time taking over the local area

[Paddo Colt 61]

Excellent intel Andy. You didn't see any Asian sailors who could have been an advanced guard from that offshore flotilla by chance? Eternal vigilance is price of freedom you know. Just ask Jax he's got his hands pretty full fighting the good fight out west.

Papa Han's in a good one in Kingsford - noodles and dumplings!

[King Salvo]

Westernised Chinese

Ah yes Brookings teamed up with a Chinese Government Approved entity for this 13 year survey one might add and would anyone ever think the "survey result" would be anything but such a score - surprised it wasn't 100%.

To believe the "respondents" were selected at random is pure fantasy as well.

The survey "respondents" may have also thought it was like the old Mao day's- the old 100 flowers campaign / double hundred movement - and didn't want to end up the same way if they criticised the Chinese commo government.

For a year or so (1956=57) old Mao allowed Chinese Folk to voice their opinions openly about Mao / Commo party elites / Commo Party / Commo party policies and what not ( Criticism and Advice) . mmm then he shut it down and around 2 million of these "critics" were rounded up - quite a number executed and the rest sent to the Chinese Laogai ( same as the Soviet Gulag).

[Random Rooster]

If we've got any sense we're already more than used to it. Have you tried Kingsford? Andy also might have? Asian smorgasbord.

My kids dont travel past edgecliff, they think Randwick is outer west. I blame the Vaucluse raised wife-definitely didn't get it from westie me!

[Paddo Colt 61]

Did the children go to Cranbrook Randy? My grandson has just left and the other is in Year 11. I was disappointed that they didn't go to a State High but such is the prejudice these days. Certainly Cranners' results are not all that impressive and the bucks spent to go there are eye watering but the boys like/d the experience. A training ground for Tory leaders of the future whom many mugs will think are just like them.

[Random Rooster]

Did the children go to Cranbrook Randy? My grandson has just left and the other is in Year 11. I was disappointed that they didn't go to a State High but such is the prejudice these days. Certainly Cranners' results are not all that impressive and the bucks spent to go there are eye watering but the boys like/d the experience. A training ground for Tory leaders of the future whom many mugs will think are just like them.

Yeah both my boys went Cranbrook at their mothers insistence. I told her there's nothing wrong with a public school, i went to one and look how i turned out....and that sealed the deal, private school they went.

I agree its not worth the money but my missus father and brother went there, and she went to Kambala, as did her sisters and mother and grandmother blah blah something about family tradition.

I always remind the boys about my late old man, who came here from Italy after WW2, 15 years old, lived in a metal chicken shed in Campsie, worked long hours in a factory and just made enough to buy food and pay someone to teach him english.... then they roll their eyes and say yeah yeah dad we know

[Paddo Colt 61]

Same thing. My daughter went over to the bourgeoisie. She was also a Kambala-ite. Left around 1990. Those private schools do impart a confident upper class manner which is not on the agenda at State high schools though there again the home environment is probably more responsible for personal traits.

Campsie? Another wonderful Asian food mecca - enormous choice. I go regularly to Lakemba for amazing Lebanese. The El Manara in Haldon St is excellent and it's Ramadan atm so all happening at night up and down the street.

Do yourself a favour and get up there for it. Then again, it's west of Anzac Pde.

[Barron's Dream]

Is this a thread about Ukraine or the rich and privileged?

Im happy that we may see an end to this meaningless proxy war.

[Barron's Dream]

Same thing. My daughter went over to the bourgeoisie. She was also a Kambala-ite. Left around 1990. Those private schools do impart a confident upper class manner which is not on the agenda at State high schools though there again the home environment is probably more responsible for personal traits.

Campsie? Another wonderful Asian food mecca - enormous choice. I go regularly to Lakemba for amazing Lebanese. The El Manara in Haldon St is excellent and it's Ramadan atm so all happening at night up and down the street.

Do yourself a favour and get up there for it. Then again, it's west of Anzac Pde.

So you are part of the borgeouise I see .... private schools, Southern Tablelands squire, lol. You seem more like an elite to me.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Is this a thread about Ukraine or the rich and privileged?

Im happy that we may see an end to this meaningless proxy war.

You agree that it is a proxy war which means that the US has duped the Ukes into fighting for US strategic benefits. It is an enlightened opinion and yet you are a swinging voter who likes the chances of the bald Wolf ? Doesn't add up but clearly the sheeple can be contradictory.

[Barron's Dream]

You agree that it is a proxy war which means that the US has duped the Ukes into fighting for US strategic benefits. It is an enlightened opinion and yet you are a swinging voter who likes the chances of the bald Wolf ? Doesn't add up but clearly the sheeple can be contradictory.

Is that your educated opinion delivered from your acreage? Don't forget, it was Bidens war. Of course the Ukraine are dupes.

[eddie]

The US should stay out of it.
Supplying Ukraine is only prolonging the inevitable.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Certainly true Eddie but do you also think that the US is concerned by-stander that only wanted to help the Ukraine and is not responsible for yet another dangerous strategic misadventure?

Barron calls it correctly but still muses about voting for the ultra wealthy Queensland bald one who has opined that Trump has done the wrong thing re the Ukes, not that the ALP has a different opinion after all the long cherished "value" of ANZUS is a stake. A Clayton's treaty but very important when wedging or wanting to apply the media frighteners on the sheeple.

The US was the architect of an armed coup in 2014 carried out by their choice for the new Uke leadership, a violent ultra nationalist movement which was collaborationist and had direct links to the first holocaust which began in the Ukraine. That being the case what would one think would be the democratic future of the place? In government they quickly suppressed opposition parties and knobbled dissenting media. This was never a freedom loving outfit.

[eddie]

Certainly true Eddie but do you also think that the US is concerned by-stander that only wanted to help the Ukraine and is not responsible for yet another dangerous strategic misadventure?

Misadventure is the right word Mr Colt.
I don't agree with Albanese's or Duttons take on the situation.

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Misadventure is the right word Mr Colt.
I don't agree with Albanese's or Duttons take on the situation.

Be hard to agree with Albo's position mate, as I don't think he has one. His main overarching position on most things is general obfuscation. He wouldn't even give a clear "no" to committing Aussie ground troops to Ukraine, on the telly this morning.