Minus Western propaganda what's the real story on the Ukraine?

[King Salvo]

Comrade Paddo, Andrea, Country Practice should jump at the Chance to leave - The Closet Red can meet up with them

[Jacks Fur Coat]

Comrade Paddo, Andrea, Country Practice should jump at the Chance to leave - The Closet Red can meet up with them

Haha...very good King. If they took the tip this place would return to its former beauty too. Wouldn't have the freedoms to access sites like this.

[ism22]

Haha...very good King. If they took the tip this place would return to its former beauty too. Wouldn't have the freedoms to access sites like this.

There's a lady on YouTube who escaped from North Korea and did a video where she talked about people who've defected to North Korea. She's also done a video about how she escaped (and other possible routes). I'm sure she can hook-up old mate with some hot tips if he's interested in migrating...

[Paddo Colt 61]

It is without an atom of irony that you post the YCL image. All of the run down countries cited have histories of being meddled with, to the great detriment of their ordinary people, by the USA.

The meme is nothing more than a crude, right wing rejection of freedom of speech which is something that we should thank you for Kingsley. You, more than anyone else, illustrate what Cancel actually means. - "Youse are free to say what you want so long as we agree with it".

[mightyrooster]

Comrade Paddo, Andrea, Country Practice should jump at the Chance to leave - The Closet Red can meet up with them

I’m still waiting to hear who the Closet Red is?

[mightyrooster]

Like your Ronny one, I don’t need to see a picture of old Vlad first thing in the morning Salvo! At least he’s not shirtless I guess!

[Andrew Walker]

I’m still waiting to hear who the Closet Red is?

It’s either Zac @ $1.50 Eddie @ $3.00 or youMR @ $21

Remember to gamble responsibly and bet with mates

[mightyrooster]

It’s either Zac Eddie or you in that order

You mean the ones who don’t fall into line 100% behind everything the yanks say and do? Well that’s very disappointing given Salvo’s history on other issues where he has been attacked by others on this site for supporting causes many view as ‘woke’. I make no apologies for not trusting the yanks. It doesn’t mean I like and support old Vlad or Xi Jinping as I can’t stomach either. Zac barely posts on this thread nor does Eddie these days.

[Paddo Colt 61]

Can't for the life of me see why you "can't stomach" Xi Jinping MR. Like most ordinary punters you've had a job done on you re Putin and Russia where you've accepted propaganda without making much attempt at divining truth or something like it. Essentially, you've done what you've been told to do by a MSM that you subliminally trust.

But Xi? What's he done apart from being the World's most popular leader who has lifted the World's most populous nation out of poverty? Andy posted an article from the Menadue site recently. It focused on US propaganda "atrocity" fabrication. You didn't read that?

When so much of what we are told is egregious propaganda, how can you be so emphatic? I would have thought that a university education may have made you more circumspect about most things - an insistence on evidence for one.

[King Salvo]

You mean the ones who don’t fall into line 100% behind everything the yanks say and do? Well that’s very disappointing given Salvo’s history on other issues where he has been attacked by others on this site for supporting causes many view as ‘woke’. I make no apologies for not trusting the yanks. It doesn’t mean I like and support old Vlad or Xi Jinping as I can’t stomach either. Zac barely posts on this thread nor does Eddie these days.

Rest easy MR it's not you

[King Salvo]

Can't for the life of me see why you "can't stomach" Xi Jinping MR. Like most ordinary punters you've had a job done on you re Putin and Russia where you've accepted propaganda without making much attempt at divining truth or something like it. Essentially, you've done what you've been told to do by a MSM that you subliminally trust.

But Xi? What's he done apart from being the World's most popular leader who has lifted the World's most populous nation out of poverty? Andy posted an article from the Menadue site recently. It focused on US propaganda "atrocity" fabrication. You didn't read that?

When so much of what we are told is egregious propaganda, how can you be so emphatic? I would have thought that a university education may have made you more circumspect about most things - an insistence on evidence for one.

Well Comrade Paddo you have certainly accepted propaganda as you have been totally brainwashed by it. - I think your propaganda net has caught all the fish it can on this site- back to menadue for more brainwashing

[Paddo Colt 61]

[QUOTE=King Salvo; Rest easy MR it's not you

I'm wondering if it might be the wife. With an illustrious pedigree like that we'd be flattered for her to join this band of brothers (and sisters)

Her grandfather, a political Commissar according to Kingsley, was at the highest rung of party regard. It was those brave people (the Germans shot them summarily) who rose in the Komsomol, trained, fought and died as soldiers and inspired the troops Their main role, however, was to keep an eye on the Officer class in battle. I mean many officers came from what was formerly the bourgeoisie and you couldn't give a meathead like Jim Molam free rein could you? They were able, if necessary to arrest Commanders. Colonel Kingsley and Captain Izzy wouldn't have made it to 1945.

So Ludmilla, Dascha, Katerina ...whatever....come out of that closet, you are most welcome to join in with what is a small but growing cadre of independent thinkers. (No, no not Heckle and Jeckle you silly girl).

[ism22]

Rest easy MR it's not you

I'm wondering if it might be the wife. With an illustrious pedigree like that we'd be flattered for her to join this band of brothers (and sisters)

Her grandfather, a political Commissar according to Kingsley, was at the highest rung of party regard. It was those brave people (the Germans shot them summarily) who rose in the Komsomol, trained, fought and died as soldiers and inspired the troops Their main role, however, was to keep an eye on the Officer class in battle. I mean many officers came from what was formerly the bourgeoisie and you couldn't give a meathead like Jim Molam free rein could you? They were able, if necessary to arrest Commanders. Colonel Kingsley and Captain Izzy wouldn't have made it to 1945.

So Ludmilla, Dascha, Katerina ...whatever....come out of that closet, you are most welcome to join in with what is a small but growing cadre of independent thinkers. (No, no not Heckle and Jeckle you silly girl).

WTF are you talking about son?

[mightyrooster]

Rest easy MR it's not you

Thanks Salvo. The plot thickens.

[mightyrooster]

Can't for the life of me see why you "can't stomach" Xi Jinping MR. Like most ordinary punters you've had a job done on you re Putin and Russia where you've accepted propaganda without making much attempt at divining truth or something like it. Essentially, you've done what you've been told to do by a MSM that you subliminally trust.

But Xi? What's he done apart from being the World's most popular leader who has lifted the World's most populous nation out of poverty? Andy posted an article from the Menadue site recently. It focused on US propaganda "atrocity" fabrication. You didn't read that?

When so much of what we are told is egregious propaganda, how can you be so emphatic? I would have thought that a university education may have made you more circumspect about most things - an insistence on evidence for one.

Oh I don’t know, I’ll just say it’s female intuition as it really doesn’t matter what I say it won’t pass the Paddo test. Also, I’ve been brainwashed for years now unlike those who live in China who get a completely balanced view of the west from their state sanctioned media.